Name the Ship Game

[KevinR]

I am thinking it is Royal Navy 1820-1850 2nd Rate Ship of the line. Which one, I don't know. There were quite a few.

[KevinR]

OK I got it. But, I will let someone else take a turn.

[molasses]

Not Royal Navy, the navy she was in didn't use a similar rating system but she would have been considered a second rate. She is less than 10 years older than your guess. All photos of her show her in a very sad condition during her later life.

Edited January 26, 2014 by DFellingham

[KevinR]

I realize now my first guess was wrong. According to wikipedia I should have the sail plan in one of my books,but it is not there.

[egkb]

Looks like she's contemporary with a certain 3 decker from a few Questions ago

 

Eamonn

[molasses]

This ship existed for over 100 years so it was a contemporary of Pennsylvania only in the sense that Pennsylvania existed entirely within the life span of this ship.

[realworkingsailor]

USS New Hampshire

[molasses]

Not New Hampshire, the ex-Alabama.

 

Alabama sat on the stocks, ready for launch, for almost 40 years before being renamed, launched and commissioned as a stores and depot ship with an armament of ten guns during the American Civil War. After the war she served as a receiving ship and later as a training ship (renamed Granite State in 1905) until 1921.

 

The ship you're looking for was ordered, built, commissioned and in action in less than two years.

[egkb]

I think you had best 'go for it Kevin'..

 

Eamonn

 

We have her DF', were just wanting to open the game out to others, wonderful ship by the way with an interesting history (she got around!)

[KevinR]

It is the USS Independence 1814, 90 gun Ship of the line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Independence_%281814%29

[molasses]

Independence is correct, Kevin.

 

Independence, 90 x 32 pound guns and the first ship of the line of the United States Navy, was built in time to assist Constitution in defending Boston Harbor during the Anglo-American War of 1812. After the war Independence served as flagship of the Mediterranean Squadron which joined with Stephen Decatur's squadron in a show of strength after Decatur's success in defeating the North African pirate states in the Second Barbary War. Independence, which had an acknowledged problem with riding too low in the water to open the lower deck gunports in even moderate seas, was razeed in 1836 to a very heavy "frigate" armed with 54 x 32 pound guns. This change greatly improved her speed and seaworthiness making her the fastest ship in the US Navy. She served as flagship on several stations (in one case being chosen over the new three-decked Pennsylvania) until 1857 when she was assigned duty as the receiving ship at Mare Island Navy Yard in San Francisco Bay for the next 55 years until 1912. In 1915, after being sold and stripped of everything of value, she was burned on a mud flat to recover the remaining scrap metal. The sturdy veteran of the days of wooden ships and iron men had survived more than a century, 98 years of which were spent serving the US Navy.

 

The razee Independence in 1837 by Rear Admiral Schmidt painted for the then new USS Independence (CV-62) [in service 1959-1998].

 

The receiving ship Independence ca 1895. I find this image very saddening in contrast to the painting above.

 

 

Your turn, Kevin.

 

[KevinR]

OK here it is. This should be an easy one. It played a part in history.

[egkb]

Did that ram a certain Dock Gate in France?

 

Am only guessing based on the look and what I remember of that operation!

 

Probably totally wrong

 

Eamonn

 

(Didn't want to answer with the ships name in case it's right, as I'm not back around until tomorrow evening and ye'd all have a long wait for another)

[molasses]

USS Buchanan / HMS Cambeltown. I'll leave it to Kevin to tell us her remarkable story.

[KevinR]

You are correct DFellingham. This is the HMS Campbeltown shortly after joining the Royal Navy. The Cambeltown was formerly the USS Buchanan. Here is the Wki article.

"HMS Campbeltown was a "Town"-class destroyer of the Royal Navy during the Second World War. She was originally US destroyer USS Buchanan, and, like many other obsolescent U.S. Navy destroyers, she was transferred to the Royal Navy in 1940 as part of the Destroyers for Bases Agreement. Campbeltown became one of the most famous of these ships when she was used in the St. Nazaire Raid in 1942."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Campbeltown_%28I42%29

Here is a photo, I assume before she blew up.

 

It is your turn DFellingham.

[Menno]

'The receiving ship Independence ca 1895. I find this image very saddening in contrast to the painting above.' 

 

I agree though if you look at her sheerline she must have been completely worn out that time.

[amateur]

'The receiving ship Independence ca 1895. I find this image very saddening in contrast to the painting above.' 

 

I agree though if you look at her sheerline she must have been completely worn out that time.

 

Actually, IMO that does make it not less saddening.

 

Jan

[amateur]

Her end, after a century of service, was fire: she was burned on the mudflats, in order to retrieve all the metal in her hull.

 

Jan

[molasses]

Name the Ship:

 

This ship dramatically changed naval warfare. Image cropped but otherwise unchanged.

[Menno]

'The receiving ship Independence ca 1895. I find this image very saddening in contrast to the painting above.' 

 

I agree though if you look at her sheerline she must have been completely worn out that time.

Which is nice in a way too

[trippwj]

The steam battery Demologos (also refereed to as the Fulton for her designer).  An interesting center paddlewheel steamer.  Lived a rather mundane existence for the US Navy.

[molasses]

Wayne, you are correct, it is the USS Fulton.

 

Designed by Robert Fulton as Demologos, Congress authorized her construction during the War of 1812. Commissioned as Fulton after Fulton's death, she made successful trial runs in the summer of 1815. The two masts and lateen sails were added by her first captain, David Porter. With the end of the war it was decided not to fully outfit her for her intended duty as a port defense battery ship. Her one day of active service occurred with President James Monroe on board for a tour of New York Harbor before she was placed in ordinary in 1816. In 1825, she was housed over and used as a receiving/barracks ship until she was destroyed by a magazine explosion in 1829, killing 30 men.

 

Fulton was the first steam warship (and one of only a handful of steam ships that actually worked) and demonstrated a future for naval warfare in which warships would be able to operate independently of the wind. It took another 30 years and several other inventions (like the screw propeller) before steam warships began to realize their potential. A few, at least, recognized what they saw during Fulton's trials, in spite of its flaws, and called this ship "Fulton the First".

 

Your turn, Wayne

Edited January 28, 2014 by DFellingham

[trippwj]

Been a long time since i got one right!  Try this one on for size...

 

[egkb]

This has to be the weirdest method I have used to date to find a ship..

 

Step 1   try identify an odd flag

Step 2   Google '13 vertical stripe flag with odd shape in top left'

Step 3   Have no luck

Step 4   Eventually find US Coastguard flag, but seems to have too many vertical stripes, keep looking and find Old US Coastguard flag with 13 stripes.. utter word 'Hmmmm.. I wonder'

Step 5  Google US Coastguard and find its history goes back to Revenue Cutter Service and US Lifesaving Service

Step 6  Google US Lifesaving Service.. zilch

Step 7  Google US Revenue Cutter Service, go into 'images' of same, to find examples of the flag

Step 8  Up pops our boat when I find a ship that looks kinda similar!

 

Phew....

 

Answer: is it  U.S. Revenue Cutter Corwin ?

 

Brilliant Question and beautiful boat Wayne

 

Eamonn

[trippwj]

Well played, Eamonn!  It is, indeed, the USRC Thomas Corwin

 

The U.S. Revenue Marine Steamer Thomas Corwin, also known as simply Corwin, was completed in 1876 and was commissioned on 17 July 1877 in San Francisco, California, which remained her home port during her career with the Revenue Marine.  She was then under the command of Revenue Captain J. W. White.  She sailed for Sitka, Alaska on 30 July 1877 where she began a patrol in the Arctic Ocean, returning to San Francisco on 28 August 1877.

She then made annual cruises to Alaskan waters.  She also patrolled the waters off Washington and Oregon when not in the Arctic.  She enforced fishing regulations, customs laws, prevented the trafficking of liquor with the local native populations, established the authority of the U.S. Government on the new territory, and assisted mariners in distress, among other duties.

 

On 9 April 1898 Corwin was transferred to the United States Navy during the Spanish-American War.  She served in the San Diego, California area until 15 August 1898 when she was returned to the Treasury Department.

 

She was sold on 14 February 1900 for $16,500.  She was used as a merchant vessel after her sale and continued sailing the Bering Sea on a charter basis.

 

She was a topsail schooner with an inverted cylinder steam engine; single propeller

 

Your turn!

 

[egkb]

Thanks Wayne, that flag had ne going in circles there for a while (did you know there is an online 'Flag Finder' where you hit on-screen 'buttons' to help narrow down the search? I found it when typing '...Odd Flag' see my answer above for the rest BTW Flag 'Finder' didn't

 

Anyhoo here are 2 pictures of a certain ship, I don't want the Class just this specific ship.

 

Only hint you are getting is that she is still with us!

 

Answers on the back of a €5 to : Eamonn care of MSW  

 

Eamonn

 

 

 

[realworkingsailor]

HMS Caroline

[egkb]

That's the bunny Andy, kinda figured this one wouldn't take too long.

 

She is currently in Belfast.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Caroline_(1914)

 

You're up, Andy

 

Eamonn

[Trafalgarhero]

World War II british light cruiser HMS Dido. Am I right?

[realworkingsailor]

I'll have something up tomorrow, 'til then, hang tight

 

Andy