PacificCrossRoads Posted August 21, 2013 Share #1 Posted August 21, 2013 Hi Piet. Here are a few types of boats O-16, which is currently under construction .... GrandpaPhil, avsjerome2003, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gino den Ridder Posted August 22, 2013 Share #2 Posted August 22, 2013 Boris, I strongly doubt that the side panels for the swivel torpedo tube opened the way you show here. From the very few photos of the O16, as far as I have checked, the panels dropped down, just as on O19. It doesn't make sense to pull the panels open against water pressure, with the risk of having them not open at all. By dropping them, the water pressure would help opening them, thus reducing the risk. Groetjes, Gino avsjerome2003 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted August 22, 2013 Hi Gino. It is not raised up the side panel. It is - like ridges on the photo :-( yvesvidal, Piet, avsjerome2003 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 23, 2013 Share #4 Posted August 23, 2013 Boris, I'd like to suggest you open a build log for your sub. It would be fascinating to watch two subs being built and easier to watch two logs than sort through Piet's log. WackoWolf, avsjerome2003 and Kevin 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted August 23, 2013 Hi mtaylor. I'm afraid that my new mail will be unavailable lovers Dutch fleet! If you do not mind! I want to keep the Dutch Subs in this page! Especially!! I found a lot of friends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted August 23, 2013 SORRY FRIENDS! I communicate with you through an automatic translator GOOGLE!!! Sorry!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted August 24, 2013 Share #7 Posted August 24, 2013 Hi mtaylor. I'm afraid that my new mail will be unavailable lovers Dutch fleet! If you do not mind! I want to keep the Dutch Subs in this page! Especially!! I found a lot of friends! Hello PacificCrossRoads, I'm sorry to say that we do mind. Other members are reacting on your comments and pictures and you reply to them. You can't keep posting your own pictures and comments in Piet's log. That is simply not done and not fair on Piet. It is his buildlog. You must start a buildlog of your own and post your pictures and progress there. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. Regards, Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share #8 Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) To Anja... OK...Thanx.... Edited August 24, 2013 by PacificCrossRoads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted August 25, 2013 Share #9 Posted August 25, 2013 Hello Boris, I like what I see on your O 16 or K XVI sub model! Is there a chance you start from the beginning so we can follow how you do it. Unless it's a secret Did you understand what I tried to explain to your post on my build log? It is in regards to the deck launch torpedo launcher opening and side doors. That would be the only change I recommend you make to the model, if possible. It may mean lowering the position of the launcher a little and also lowering the bottom sill of the opening a little. The Google Translator may not translate it all clearly and perhaps you can find an English speaking friend in your area for help Unless of course you speak, read and understand Dutch Cheers, Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted August 26, 2013 Hi Piet. What do you think? Window torpedo tubes dropped below! Enough or even lower?? Boris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share #11 Posted August 26, 2013 More .. GrandpaPhil, Piet and avsjerome2003 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share #12 Posted August 26, 2013 A trial version of the cover ... avsjerome2003 and Piet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted August 27, 2013 Share #13 Posted August 27, 2013 Hello Boris, It is looking much better but could be lowered just a little more. I copied your picture and drew lines as I believe they will then be about correct. Don't make the part above the deck too high. On the real boat it could be about 150 to 200 mm above the deck. On your picture it seems just a very little bit too high. Same amount above deck level as below deck level. I like the detail of the deck gun and the conning tower, real nice. Also the cover picture for the box, love it ! Really, really great Top edge of opening just a little lower and the bottom edge also a little lower plus a little more to make the opening a little wider. The launcher must then also be lowered the same amount as the top edge, this will give you a little more clearance below the launcher for the closing doors. Cheers, GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share #14 Posted August 27, 2013 Yes Piet! I will follow your advice .... Next steps ... GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share #15 Posted August 27, 2013 Hi. The final version of the picture .... Piet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted August 28, 2013 Share #16 Posted August 28, 2013 Hello Boris, Great work, I love the final box picture! One more thing I noticed though. I only see three step cut-outs on the side of the conning tower. There should be four. I have indicated where the missing step should be on the pic below. Hope you don't mind. Cheers, Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share #17 Posted August 29, 2013 Hi Piet. OK. Thanx .... I will correct ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share #18 Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) The process continues ... Edited October 10, 2013 by PacificCrossRoads GrandpaPhil, Piet and FreekS 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted October 11, 2013 Share #19 Posted October 11, 2013 Hello Boris, That looks very good, outstanding job my friend. I hope you don't mind but for the benefit of the members of MSW I like to add some details to this particular boat that fought so gallantly during the first year of WW II against the naval forces of the JIN. She sunk and damaged quite a few JIN ships during her short war career. Unfortunately she hit a mine at the end of 1941. Here is the record of her last war patrol I copied from the Dutch site WWW.dutchsubmarines.com "15 Dec 1941 about 02:30 hrs: O 16 is struck by a mine while she is exiting the Gulf of Siam during her homebound voyage to Singapore. The submarine is nearly broken in half and 41 men are lost. Only one crew member, boatswain Cornelis de Wolf, survives. O 16 sailed right into a Japanese line of mines, this line of mines also sunk the submarine K XVII. Because the wreck of the O 16 is regarded as a war grave the exact coordinates of the wreck will not be displayed on this site." However, I like to add that the coordinates of the wreck are 3 degrees 10 mins N - 104 degrees 19 mins E. Here is a picture of the O 16 when docked at the KM Naval base at Den Helder, the Netherlands, before WW II. [[KM stands for Koninklijke Marine and is Royal Navy in English]] Again my condolences to you and your family for the untimely death of your father. Keep strong my friend. With kind regards, avsjerome2003 and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share #20 Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) Hi Piet. Thank you! I really appreciate your attitude towards me and my family! I REMEMBER THE HEROES OF EASTERN,ASIATIC & ABDA FLEET!!!!! Edited October 17, 2013 by PacificCrossRoads Piet, mtaylor and avsjerome2003 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share #21 Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) Next step... Edited November 10, 2013 by PacificCrossRoads mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and WackoWolf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share #22 Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) Hi All. The process of moving ..... Edited November 23, 2013 by PacificCrossRoads avsjerome2003, Piet, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted November 24, 2013 Share #23 Posted November 24, 2013 Wow Boris, that looks really good! I like the detail with the had-holds along the con and the periscope holder. Cheers, Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share #24 Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Dear, Piet. I'm glad because you like the process of creating O-16 ... Similarly, I admire your work!! And also thank you to all who follow my work! And wish me success! Edited November 25, 2013 by PacificCrossRoads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share #25 Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Next... Edited December 6, 2013 by PacificCrossRoads Piet, GrandpaPhil, avsjerome2003 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted December 7, 2013 Share #26 Posted December 7, 2013 Hello Boris and welcome back from your trip to Poland - - - and congrats on your promotion! Wow and a double wow on the progress of your O16 model. You got the planking on and you did the propellers too - - - and that without the detailed drawings I send via post. Oh yes, I forgot, I send you the digital pics Remco got for me. They may need a little less pitch going towards the tips though. Check the drawings again. Cheers, avsjerome2003 1 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share #27 Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) In the process ... Edited December 13, 2013 by PacificCrossRoads Piet and avsjerome2003 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted December 13, 2013 Share #28 Posted December 13, 2013 Hello Boris, That looks terrific my friend. I like the detail on the decking. I dread doing mine, even at a larger scale then yours. Cheers, Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share #29 Posted December 16, 2013 New video for me ... http://www.dutchfleet.net/showthread.php/15187-HISTORY-CHANNEL-The-quot-O-16-quot-submarine-story Piet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificCrossRoads Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share #30 Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Deleted link. Due to improper area for this. Edited December 17, 2013 by mtaylor Link deleted by Moderator Piet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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