Deck planks and more on Joggling sticks

[DaveBaxt]

I have attempted to make goggle sticks in a sort of mass produced way, Ie cut a good number to length- no problem. make a template as accurate as possible from  thicker  plywood and then clamp each strip to the template and cut off a number of google sticks and give a light sanding. I have tried cutting them with a scalple knife and with very sharp chisel . The material is 1mm tanganyka which is very soft and both the knife and chisel cut the wood fairly easy. I am still having problems with leaving small gaps and wonder how I can possibly get them to fit better before cutting into the margin plank. Surely I don,t need to make each one like I have made the template or make each one to fit in situe if that makes sense? When I have made a batch, most of them do not fit exactly and I need to swap them about like a jigsaw puzzle. Joggling is definately an apt word for them.

 

      

Any ideas would be very much appreciated before I bury myself in joggling sticks

Edited April 18, 2023 by DaveBaxt

[wefalck]

Carpenters make parts to fit in situ, using the part against which the second part fits as template. From an engineer's point of view this looks pretty 'artisanal', but it really works ...

[DaveBaxt]

Thinking of cutting a template out of metal  and sanding several sticks at once using a disc sander. Hopefully I can meke the template as accurate as possible, although I think the wood one was fairly accurate. Just another thought and might work. I could easly make this out of brass or copper sheet but hopefully not too soft.

[DaveBaxt]

2 minutes ago, wefalck said:

Carpenters make parts to fit in situ, using the part against which the second part fits as template. From an engineer's point of view this looks pretty 'artisanal', but it really works ...

Thank you and that is probably what I will end up doing. Thank you for your quick response.Best regards dave

[CPDDET]

8 hours ago, wefalck said:

Carpenters make parts to fit in situ, using the part against which the second part fits as template. From an engineer's point of view this looks pretty 'artisanal', but it really works ...

Only way I know of getting it right without too much waste.

[Jaager]

I keep coming back to the thought that laying the deck would be a much more satisfying experience were you using an appropriate species of wood, instead of the junk species Anigre.

 

One concept to take to heart is that with a wooden ship of the age of sail = there are seldom two timbers that are identical.  There are mirror images.  Dutch ships in the deadflat may be an exception for a long stretch.  Galleys perhaps. 

[Dr PR]

No two planks are the same. The width of the "nib" is 1/2 (or 1/3 on some vessels) the plank width from one side to the center of the plank, and is the same on all planks. But the angle back to the other side of the plank is determined by the angle of the margin board. So every plank has to be fit in situ.

 

On my current build I planked from the center outward. I cut the nib to 1/2 the plank width. First I marked the center of the end of the plank with a pencil. Then I slid the plank along the already laid inboard plank up to where the end of the new plank came to where the inboard plank met the margin board.

 

With the new plank in this position I marked the margin board along the end of the new plank, out to the center of the plank. Then I marked the position on the new plank where the outboard edge crossed the margin board. I also marked this position on the margin board. Then I trimmed the new plank back from the center of the end to where it crossed the edge of the margin board.

 

Then the plank positioned  over the margin board and the outline was drawn on the margin board. Next I cut the nib into the margin board. Now the plank fits into the cutout in the margin board. This was a lot easier than I had imagined it would be, and the nibs came out symmetrical port to starboard!

 

I have posted photos of the process here:

 

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19611-albatros-by-dr-pr-mantua-scale-148-revenue-cutter-kitbash-about-1815/?do=findComment&comment=605072

 

[wefalck]

That's exactly how I did it.

[DaveBaxt]

On 4/19/2023 at 8:18 AM, Dr PR said:

No two planks are the same. The width of the "nib" is 1/2 (or 1/3 on some vessels) the plank width from one side to the center of the plank, and is the same on all planks. But the angle back to the other side of the plank is determined by the angle of the margin board. So every plank has to be fit in situ.

 

On my current build I planked from the center outward. I cut the nib to 1/2 the plank width. First I marked the center of the end of the plank with a pencil. Then I slid the plank along the already laid inboard plank up to where the end of the new plank came to where the inboard plank met the margin board.

 

With the new plank in this position I marked the margin board along the end of the new plank, out to the center of the plank. Then I marked the position on the new plank where the outboard edge crossed the margin board. I also marked this position on the margin board. Then I trimmed the new plank back from the center of the end to where it crossed the edge of the margin board.

 

Then the plank positioned  over the margin board and the outline was drawn on the margin board. Next I cut the nib into the margin board. Now the plank fits into the cutout in the margin board. This was a lot easier than I had imagined it would be, and the nibs came out symmetrical port to starboard!

 

I have posted photos of the process here:

 

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19611-albatros-by-dr-pr-mantua-scale-148-revenue-cutter-kitbash-about-1815/?do=findComment&comment=605072

 

Thank you for explaining that to me as it was most helpfull. Also the link to your work which looks amazing .Hopefully I can imulate something half as good.Thank you. Best regards dave.