1:12 scale landing craft [plans]

[tom q vaxy]

is there a source for the classic Higgins boat plans. larger the better, and then i can have the local printshop make them 1:12 scale.

 

thanks

Edited August 11, 2023 by tom q vaxy

[alross2]

This will provide you with all you need:  The Boat that Won the War: An Illustrated History of the Higgins LCVP  by Charles C. Roberts  | Sep 1, 2017  

[NavyShooter]

Here's a starting point for you.

 

You would have to scale these up and print them to the proper dimension to use as a reference. 

[Roger Pellett]

Charles Robert’s book that Al posted above is great.  Also, there is a series of articles in several past issues of the Nautical Research Journal documenting the restoration of an LCVP.  These articles include original BuShips drawings used to restore the boat.  This includes a hull lines drawing.  The actual hull shape is more complex than it appears from most photos.  You can find ordering information for past articles by first using the Guild’s online index and then calling the Guild’s office.

 

Roger

[TBlack]

We had 2 of these on our ship (LST). We always referred to them as papa boats

[allanyed]

You can do a quick bit of research by Googling Higgins boats and go to images for lots of plans then download and save whichever ones you want.  Not sure which ones you want though, the LCVP or some others as they built a number of vessels at their yards with the 20,000 workers employed there during WWII 

 

Insert into your CAD program and scale to whatever you need or save on a flash drive and take it to a local print shop.   DOUBLE CHECK  the measurements when they print as half the time I have found them to be slightly out of scale.  An engineering printing company is your best best as they seem to always get it right.    The pic at the following address can be opened in high res if you click on the original file bottom left of the drawing.  

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/LCVP_Landing_Craft-_Inboard_Profile_and_Construction_Plan_-_NARA_-_78116787.jpg

Allan

 

[Roger Pellett]

My favorite “Higgins Boat” is the LCP(L) and it’s sister the LCPR.  The Franklin D. Roosevelt Library has a set of Higgins Boat models and the LCP(L) makes a surprisingly attractive model.  The LCP(L) was Higgins’ original adaptation of his Louisiana Bayou  Eureka workboat into a landing craft.  These boats landed Marines at Guadalcanal and soldiers during the Torch landings.  The LCPR was a LCP(L) modified to add a narrow front ramp these were used by Navy UDT teams throughout WWII.  The LCVP utilized the LCP(L) after body hull lines but added a new fore end to provide a full width bow ramp.

 

An LCP(L) is on my ship modeling bucket list.  It would be a surprisingly difficult model as the scantlings are quite small.

 

There is a restored LST (LST 325 in Evansville, Indiana where many were built.  They have several LCVPs, all the later fiberglass construction.  They have a number of original LCVP drawings on their website.

 

Roger

Edited August 13, 2023 by Roger Pellett

[Dr PR]

The Joyner LIbrary at East Carolina University has the full collection of plans from the Barbour Boat Works. They made just about every type of small boat used by the Navy during and after WWII, including several types of landing craft, and some not so small (destroyers).

 

https://librarycatalog.ecu.edu/catalog/918210

 

http://digital.lib.ecu.edu/special/ead/findingaids/0758/

 

Box 42 has the plans for the LCVP. You can order them online. I have several digitized plans I got from the Joyner Library and they are excellent copies of the original blueprints.

[tom q vaxy]

thanks for the responses. got my homework cut out for me!

[alross2]

[tom q vaxy]

interesting (LCS drawings). i did not realize the lineage and simply assumed all boats had the drop down unloading ramp.

[Roger Pellett]

The LCS, Landing Craft Support, hull is an adaption of Higgins prewar Eureka workboat and is virtually identical to Higgins first landing craft, the LCP(L).  The LCP(L) did not have a ramp.  Troops climbed out over the gunwale.

 

Roger

[tom q vaxy]

gadzooks; fish in a barrel indeed!

[tom q vaxy]

some links to items i have found (don't believe they have been mentioned above) & might be helpful to others:

 

Higgins Boat LCVP (Landing Craft, Vehicle, Personnel) (militaryfactory.com)

 

LCVP Higgins Boat (robertsarmory.com)

 

LCVP (United States) - Wikipedia    - embarrassingly i never think to check wikipedia even though most of my searches end up there!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tom q vaxy]

On 8/11/2023 at 10:47 AM, alross2 said:

This will provide you with all you need:  The Boat that Won the War: An Illustrated History of the Higgins LCVP  by Charles C. Roberts  | Sep 1, 2017  

this is now checked out from my local library and i can readily see it working its way into my reference library.

[prmitch]

Many thanks to Al Ross for posting the LCS(S) plans.

 

Quite a while back I located some LCP(L) plans on offer on eBay, but the seller wanted a stupid high price so I didn't buy them. However, I did download the images that the seller had included in the listing. The plans are not complete, but should be sufficient when augmented by Al Ross's plans. I'm making two posts, one for each sheet of plans.

 

The first sheet includes most of the lines and drawing and the table of offsets.

Edited September 30, 2023 by prmitch

[prmitch]

The second sheet includes the general arrangements & bow construction detail.

Edited September 30, 2023 by prmitch

[prmitch]

Two more useful drawings from the internet:

Edited September 30, 2023 by prmitch

[prmitch]

Paul Fontenoy published a two-part article about restoring an LCVP in volume 54 of the Guild's Nautical Research Journal. The article includes many informative drawings (including lines and offsets) and photos.

• Restoring a Landing Craft, Vehicle and Personnel, Part 1, 1/21
• Restoring a Landing Craft, Vehicle and Personnel, Part 2, 2/97

[TomrjzSr]

Hi,

 

I am looking for a set of building plans for the LCP(R).

 

I've only been able to find side views & top views. I would like to get a set with the hull lines.

 

I appreciate any help in locating them.

 

Thank you ,

 

Thomas R Juchniewicz Sr 

[Dr PR]

See reply #8.

[prmitch]

Thomas,

 

Thanks, Phil, for the reminder on reply #8. A fair amount of good information, but no lines drawings for LCP(R).

 

The R variant is essentially a LCP(L) with a modified bow beginning just forward of where the chine meets the LWL, so the info contained in replies #10 and #16 should get you most of the way there (see Friedman's US Amphibious Ships and Craft, pgs 85, 86 & 89).

 

I have a few other links that contain useful info on the LCP(L), LCP(R) and LCVP landing craft, as follows:

• LCVP construction manual: https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/4ce41de0dd911ce706e74ef67ec73333.pdf
• WWII Chris Craft: https://usautoindustryworldwartwo.com/chris-craft.htm
• WWII Higgins Industries: https://usautoindustryworldwartwo.com/higginsindustries.htm
• WWII Owens Yacht Co.: https://usautoindustryworldwartwo.com/owensyacht.htm
• WWII Matthews Co: https://usautoindustryworldwartwo.com/matthews.htm

 

Revell makes a 1:35 scale kit of a LCP(R) which can be found online at some hobby vendors and eBay. I have one in my storage locker somewhere, but not sure when I'll be able to dig it out.

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by prmitch

[prmitch]

Here is another useful book (Amazon Kindle only): 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Higgins-Boat-Historical-Illustrated-Scratch-ebook/dp/B074JL9WG7/ref=sr_1_13?crid=5XLHFVI216KV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.x7viktjR4zUdSxeBCv4XPzvJO0REk7TFeOulMuAhFyX0exeTThuU1b-oO0lZ3QZgfThZHXyZgAuLiAjJdVgsM0NurOXYqpv8M1vXqxX-cC71ZSOEm0i1xQ7Qqylt3zK-f0m7iedEigwKwPLbookUvFD4IKJ9Z-46mWS339dl9gG4lAldNQnJFNmZNrgnYwGFT64yt94pIE__ud7eJjwiJ9mdc3BYcl8v2qbGeYprXoI.Cxc2GZpuWpj4bIC7hsMfWyYmCKx5LqyXRRxFwQM7RYk&dib_tag=se&keywords=higgins+boat+book&qid=1735511819&sprefix=higgins+boat+book%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-13