Staghound 1850 by rwiederrich - 1/96 - Extreme Clipper

[MrBlueJacket]

19 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

To me honest  Nic....I got them from a model maker years go, who was renting from my cousin and who abandoned his home and left all his stuff (Junk too) to my cousin.  His entire stash of models (All wooden kits)  He had a partially built  a 1/96 Constitution and  America ...and he had a pastle of these 1/8" men done up.  I've used some on Glory of the Seas and some other things as well.  All in 1/8".  Some are pretty poorly done...others are serviceable.  They were in the mix of model stuff I got.

 

Rob

 

 

I've used the Revel Constitution figures for the Red Jacket and other models as well.

 

Nic

[rwiederrich]

55 minutes ago, MrBlueJacket said:

I've used the Revel Constitution figures for the Red Jacket and other models as well.

 

Nic

Some of the men from the earliest models, are still crisp and clean.  I have a sprue of men from a 50's kits of the Cutty Sark.  They are very well injected actually.  I can only assume the gentleman Whom I got these wooden models from got his men from a Conne kit or somewhere like that.

 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

Finished up the poop fore bulkhead.  
 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

Working on milling the edge moulding on the port channels. 
 

Rob

[FriedClams]

Having a hard time catching up to you, Rob.  You're moving fast and everything is looking terrific.

 

Gary 

[rwiederrich]

On 6/29/2025 at 7:57 AM, FriedClams said:

Having a hard time catching up to you, Rob.  You're moving fast and everything is looking terrific.

 

Gary 

Gary....when I work....I do tend to expedite my way around.  Having the portico finished prior helped.....but the skylight . steering box, and companionway will need to be redone.   I'm also going to redo the roof of the main cabin...by cutting it off and reducing the cabin height and contour.   I pre-built all this stuff without the hull being finished.....so scaling tends to be off.   I'll deal with that after the channels and chain plates are finished.

 

Rob

Edited June 30 by rwiederrich

[ClipperFan]

Rob,

Using genuine old-fashioned paper "cut & paste" I finally combined all 4 Chappelle clipper Stag Hound hull & deck profiles to create one full image. Each section is correct but wrinkles in paper make it appear distorted. The stern still appears to be too small in comparison. I also used the same procedure on the 1881 Hall clipper Flying Cloud which was cleaner as it was just 2 halves. Next step is to trace these prints to generate a more accurate plan.

 

 

 

Edited July 2 by ClipperFan
improved images

[rwiederrich]

Setting up to drill for the chain plates.  
 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

Had trouble with my browser, had to change it to get this sight to work. 
 

Here are some updates. 
 

Rob

[BANYAN]

Nice work Rob, those channels with the chainplates etc look great.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[rwiederrich]

4 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Nice work Rob, those channels with the chainplates etc look great.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Thanks Pat.   I prefer to weather everything……so it looks used and exposed.

 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

Finished up the main mast port channels. 
 

Rob

[Sailor1234567890]

Rob,

Do you know why there are upper and lower channels in the chains? Why not just angle the chainplate back toward the hull from the upper and fasten where the lower end is fastened, bypassing the lower channel? I must be missing something. I don't remember ever seeing that before so it struck me as odd. Or maybe I've seen it and it never stood out before. Seems unusual to  me though. Is it? 

 

Daniel

[ClipperFan]

9 hours ago, Sailor1234567890 said:

Rob,

Do you know why there are upper and lower channels in the chains? Why not just angle the chainplate back toward the hull from the upper and fasten where the lower end is fastened, bypassing the lower channel? I must be missing something. I don't remember ever seeing that before so it struck me as odd. Or maybe I've seen it and it never stood out before. Seems unusual to  me though. Is it? 

 

Daniel

Daniel,

Everything we do is based on following accurate historic images and documentation. Here's two such images confirming that McKay had always installed double channels on his vessels. First is an 1854 daguerrotype of the clipper Champion of the Seas. Second is of the 1869 clipper Glory of the Seas, taken in 1911. Both have double channels installed.

 

[druxey]

The lower channel appears to be protective of the chains at dockside.

[rwiederrich]

Strength has a part to play in this design.  The upper channel is only secured to the rail top and internal stanchions....the lower is secured to the planksheer bottom and massive waterways below that,...and the stanchions/frames.

McLean clearly describes McKay clippers as being most strongly built and secure vessels.....emphasising the strength of their bolting and robust, construction.   Double channels is accurate.

Thanks for being curious enough to question it.

 

Rob

Edited Tuesday at 12:19 PM by rwiederrich

[ClipperFan]

More examples of American clippers which all had double rigged shrouds irons. Earliest known pre-clipper, the Baltimore, MD built Ann McKimm, a Mystic, CT built clipper, Galatea, Massachusetts and David Crockett, Mystic, CT. 

[rwiederrich]

Thanks for the pics Rich.  
 

I decided it was time to make the final stand.  I reused an antique optical stand and modified it, by adding the two brackets to hold the model.

I bolted the two brackets to the stand and then added a curio of Donald McKay and a clipper half model (which could be Staghound). 
 

Rob

[BANYAN]

Wow, love that figurine and the uniqueness of the overall design for your stand Rob.  Looks great!

 

cheers

 

Pat

[rwiederrich]

2 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Wow, love that figurine and the uniqueness of the overall design for your stand Rob.  Looks great!

 

cheers

 

Pat

Thanks Pat.  I wanted it to resemble early industrial.   The McKay figurine is frosting on the cake.  
 

Rob