marktiedens Posted May 20, 2015 #361 Posted May 20, 2015 I am not waiting for the book - they might even change things after it comes out. I will probably just rig mine very close to what I did on my Sergal build. If the quality of the kit was better I might be a little more concerned about the correctness of the rigging. /Mark fmodajr and GLakie 2 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
md1400cs Posted May 21, 2015 #362 Posted May 21, 2015 Frank, Gorgeous work...I'm repeating myself, as well as all others whom are following along! Michael GLakie and fmodajr 2 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa -
fmodajr Posted June 11, 2015 Author #363 Posted June 11, 2015 Thanks for visiting! I started working on the upper sections of the mainmast. First, I finished the shrouds for the mainmast top sail. Secondly, I prepped the mainmast top sail with blocks and rigging lines Next I mounted the top sail onto the mainmast. All the rigging lines are not tensioned (Except for the halliard) and the sail is not yet leveled and fitted. At this point, I am making sure I know where everything is supposed to go! The mainmast top stay fitted thru the foremast block The Halliard lines fitted to the knight head. My next step will be to repeat the above process for the mainmast topgallant sail. After I am done with that, I think I will start to finish setting all the lines for the mainmast and mizzenmast before I move on to the foremast sails and shrouds. Thanks, Frank marktiedens, Tadeusz43, avsjerome2003 and 8 others 11 Quote
GLakie Posted June 11, 2015 #364 Posted June 11, 2015 Don't know what to say Frank! Truly an outstanding and lovely job on her! fmodajr 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
fmodajr Posted June 12, 2015 Author #365 Posted June 12, 2015 Don't know what to say Frank! Truly an outstanding and lovely job on her! Thanks for your kind comments George! And Mark, Jan, and Michael thanks for the "likes"!!! I have to take a week off, then it is on to the Top gallant sail! Frank GLakie 1 Quote
marktiedens Posted June 20, 2015 #366 Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) Hi Frank - I have a question for you. How did you rig the lanyards between the triple blocks on the stays? What I`m wondering is what is the starting point & where does it tie off. Kind of a dumb question but I have never seen on plans the rigging sequence - it`s always a simplified diagram just showing 3 lines between the blocks. I have rigged them on previous models but they always look a little off. I did look at your rigging in one of your previous posts but I can`t quite make out the starting & ending points. /Mark Edited June 20, 2015 by marktiedens GLakie 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
fmodajr Posted June 21, 2015 Author #367 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) Hi Mark, I hope all is well. So what I did is start by tying the line to the stay line right above the top of the upper block. (I tied it into the seizing, so it blends in.) then I ran the line down to the back side of the first hole of the lower triple block, back up to the front side of the first hole of the top triple block, beck down to the second hole of the lower block, back up to the 2nd hole of the upper block, down to the third hole of the lower block, up to the 3rd hole of the upper block, then back down and tied off to the the seizing area behind the lower block. I hope this helps. If not I can make a sketch for you. Thanks, Frank Edited June 21, 2015 by fmodajr GLakie 1 Quote
marktiedens Posted June 21, 2015 #368 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) Hi Frank - thanks for your explanation. That`s what I had been doing but mine never seemed to look quite right to me. I think I will try something a little different - I will fasten an eyebolt to the bottom of the upper block & run through the sheaves & tie it off at the seizing of the lower block & see how that looks. Just for information those triple blocks are referred to by Fred at the museum as being basically large square deadeyes - no rollers between the sheaves. It doesn`t make any difference as far as rigging them goes ,though. Sorry to keep referencing Fred but he is a wealth of information. /Mark Edited June 21, 2015 by marktiedens GLakie and fmodajr 2 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
JanV Posted June 21, 2015 #369 Posted June 21, 2015 Hi Mark, Just a quick question, do you have a link with the discussions with Fred and Clayton concerning the rigging, as I am now preparing for the rigging of my Corel Vasa. Thanks GLakie 1 Quote Jan V. current build: Vasa-1628 Corel / Battle Station Mantua/Panart, previous: Statenjacht / Cross section HMS Victory / diorama shipyard
popeye2sea Posted June 21, 2015 #370 Posted June 21, 2015 Normally the laniard would start from a becket on the lower block. Then through a sheave on the upper from aft forward, through the successive sheaves and ending by passing from the last sheave on the lower block from forward aft. The turns were hauled taut and the end was hitched around the stay above the upper block. The bitter end could be frapped around the whole tackle or nipped to one of the turns of the fall. Regards, GLakie, fmodajr and marktiedens 3 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci
Tadeusz43 Posted June 22, 2015 #371 Posted June 22, 2015 Hi Frank, A few photos from my visit to the Museum Vasa in Stockholm. Tadeusz fmodajr, maggsl_01, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote
marktiedens Posted June 22, 2015 #372 Posted June 22, 2015 Hi Jan - I will put my reply in your build log. /Mark GLakie 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
md1400cs Posted July 15, 2015 #373 Posted July 15, 2015 Hello! I finished up some work on the bowsprit. I notched out the top of the bowsprit dowel and attached the posts. Vasa390.jpg After staining, I added the metal strip and cleats. I will add the steps on both sides of the bowsprit and the wood support for the lashings after the bowsprit is glued and the lashing rigging completed. Vasa391.jpg Vasa392.jpg The platform and cap mounted onto the bowsprit. Vasa393.jpg Adding the upper mast sections. Vasa394.jpg Vasa395.jpg Metal straps added to the mast and caps Vasa396.jpg Vasa397.jpg My next step is to add all the blocks and eyelets to the masts and bowsprit and then glue the masts to the ship. Thanks, Frank Frank, Hi. Working on the bowsprit mast and Corel instructions are confusing, so I'm copying your work here starting with "I notched out the top of the bowsprit dowel and attached the posts." for the tip bits, platform and assembly. Great informative log on your part - BIG thanks, very helpful. Michael GLakie 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa -
fmodajr Posted July 15, 2015 Author #374 Posted July 15, 2015 Frank, Hi. Working on the bowsprit mast and Corel instructions are confusing, so I'm copying your work here starting with "I notched out the top of the bowsprit dowel and attached the posts." for the tip bits, platform and assembly. Great informative log on your part - BIG thanks, very helpful. Michael HI Michael, No problem! I think I've gotten a lot more information out of your log than vise versa! Thanks, Frank GLakie 1 Quote
fmodajr Posted July 15, 2015 Author #375 Posted July 15, 2015 Hello! It has been slow going on my build this past month. It has been a wonderful summer here up in the east coast with too many outdoor activities taking up my time! I started working on the installation of the topgallant mainmast sail. First, I added the upper topgallant shrouds As with the other sails, I tried to "pre-rig" as much as possible before attaching the sail and yard to the mast. Topgallant sail and yard attached to the mainmast. Now I added the top stay from the mainmast to the foremast and down to the deck. Next I finished the halliard to the lower stay and deck. Photo of sail in place (but not leveled yet!) Now I would normally start working on the foremast. However, I am worried about getting my fingers and tools in-between the mainmast and mizzenmast in order to finalize and tie down all the running rigging from the mainmast sails. So I think I will begin to level and tie down most of the mainmast lines to the deck and belaying pins, while I can still get in there! Thanks, Frank marktiedens, Winlich, Karleop and 1 other 4 Quote
GLakie Posted July 15, 2015 #376 Posted July 15, 2015 You're doing an excellent job rigging the sails Frank. She's beautiful. Cheers fmodajr 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
fmodajr Posted August 11, 2015 Author #377 Posted August 11, 2015 Hello! Before starting the sails and yards for the foremast, I decided to finish rigging the mainmast and mizzenmast yards and sails. I did this for a few reasons! 1. I was worried about getting my hands and fingers between the tight spaces in-between the mainmast and mizzenmast. 2. I wanted to finish and tie down all the lines to the belaying pins on the inside of the rails before I attach the already made delicate upper railing system. 3. I needed a break from all the shroud and sail sewing work! The following pictures show the results. Note: I did not finish rigging the lower mainmast and mizzenmast yard and sail braces, tacks, and sheets because I want to install that upper rail system first. These lines would only be in the way if I finished them now. Mizzen top Stay Lines fastened from the mizzen boom Belaying pins (inside of the upper railing system still to be installed) Mainmast lifts, sheets etc Mainmast topsail braces, cluelines and sheets marktiedens, JanV, maggsl_01 and 2 others 5 Quote
fmodajr Posted August 11, 2015 Author #378 Posted August 11, 2015 Continuing withe the photos: Mizzen Topsail lines: Main Topgallant brace Mizzen Sail Bowlines Overview Photos Thanks for all the previous likes! Now I am off to start on the Foremast. Frank GLakie, maggsl_01, marktiedens and 5 others 8 Quote
GLakie Posted August 11, 2015 #379 Posted August 11, 2015 Lookin' really good Frank. Wow! You've been busy! Cheers fmodajr 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
fmodajr Posted September 1, 2015 Author #380 Posted September 1, 2015 Hello, Thanks for visiting and all the "likes". It is appreciated. I have started working on the lower foremast sail and yard. Previously, I made up this sail and manually sewed the bolt rope around the edges. Since I decided to furl this sail, I removed 1/3 of the sail at the bottom (so sail looks short) so that it would not be too bulky when rolled up. Lower Foremast sail attached to yard Next I took each bottom end and folded them past the top of the yard. I then, starting from the bottom, rolled the sail tightly up to the yard and pulled the ends back over the sail. Once done with this, I tied the sail to the yard in a few places. Now I added the various blocks and rigging to the yard and sail. View from front of sail View from back of sail Sail Cluelines attached GuntherMT, GLakie, Ulises Victoria and 4 others 7 Quote
fmodajr Posted September 1, 2015 Author #381 Posted September 1, 2015 Continuing on! Attaching the Lower yard to the Foremast Yard Positioned on Foremast Overview Now I am ready to start working on the lower shrouds, ratlines, and stay for the lower Foremast. Thanks for visiting, Frank GuntherMT, marktiedens, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote
GLakie Posted September 1, 2015 #382 Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Nice work furling the sail. It looks great. That's an interesting approach Frank, doing the yard and rigging for the sail first, before doing shrouds and ratlines. I'd be worried about the yard and running rigging getting in the way. Unless of course, you haven't placed it permanently. Edited September 1, 2015 by GLakie fmodajr 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
md1400cs Posted September 1, 2015 #383 Posted September 1, 2015 Frank, Very nice update. Looking very good indeed. Michael fmodajr and GLakie 2 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa -
marktiedens Posted September 1, 2015 #384 Posted September 1, 2015 Great looking sails. I don`t think I could rig the shrouds & ratlines after mounting the yards - I would have them knocked loose very quickly. /Mark fmodajr and GLakie 2 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
fmodajr Posted September 1, 2015 Author #385 Posted September 1, 2015 Hi George and Mark, Thanks for visiting! I understand your concerns, but the lower yard can still be rotated easily. Also, since the sail is furled, there is plenty of room to work around. I did it the same way on the lower, partially furled lower main sail! It is easier for me to attach the parrels and halliards with the shrouds not in the way! For the upper shrouds, I will install them first before adding the full open sails. Thanks again for the "Likes" Frank GLakie 1 Quote
JanV Posted September 1, 2015 #386 Posted September 1, 2015 Frank nice job. I think I am going to save your buildlog for future use once I am workinh on the sails fmodajr, maggsl_01 and GLakie 3 Quote Jan V. current build: Vasa-1628 Corel / Battle Station Mantua/Panart, previous: Statenjacht / Cross section HMS Victory / diorama shipyard
maggsl_01 Posted September 2, 2015 #387 Posted September 2, 2015 Frank nice job. I think I am going to save your buildlog for future use once I am workinh on the sails Hi I totally agree with Jan... I will save all the pics and the log for the work with the sails. I will sail up the Endeavour that I build at the moment. So it is a enormous help to see the work done step by step... Thank you so much Cheerio Max fmodajr and GLakie 2 Quote Next: Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde by Euro Model 1:47 Finished: Half Moon Corel; HMY Royal Caroline Panart; HMB Endeavour Occre 1:54; Fregatte Berlin, Corel, 1:40 A life without dogs is possible... but worth to live?
fmodajr Posted September 2, 2015 Author #388 Posted September 2, 2015 I totally agree with Jan... I will save all the pics and the log for the work with the sails. I will sail up the Endeavour that I build at the moment. So it is a enormous help to see the work done step by step... Thank you so much Hi Max, Thanks for your comments! It does work both ways however! I've learned so much from viewing other great logs and I've gotten many wonderful ideas that hopefully will improve my work. Thanks again, Frank maggsl_01 and GLakie 2 Quote
fmodajr Posted September 25, 2015 Author #389 Posted September 25, 2015 Hello, First of all, thanks for all the likes! I have been continuing with the foremast rigging. First, I installed the the lower shrouds Next was rigging the ratlines. GuntherMT, md1400cs, marktiedens and 3 others 6 Quote
fmodajr Posted September 25, 2015 Author #390 Posted September 25, 2015 After the lower shrouds and ratlines, I added the lower foremast stay to the bowsprit. Now I started placing the pre-rigged running lines in the proper locations. All the running lines will remain loose, until the other foremast sails are installed and I am sure of where all the rigging will terminate on the deck! My next step now is to finish the upper shrouds / ratlines, install the upper yards and sails and finish the upper stays to the bowsprit. Thanks, Frank GuntherMT, GLakie, md1400cs and 5 others 8 Quote
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