drtrap Posted May 23, 2014 Author #391 Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) Hi Jason, I thought that the square top was a prerequisite only for the deck masts (fore, main, and aft)... I think that I'll leave the top bowsprit mast round now. The black paint will cover that rookie's mistake... Thanks for driving me to the right log!! Edited May 23, 2014 by Stergios Quote
drtrap Posted May 24, 2014 Author #392 Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) Well I'm back with some pics, even with the round shaped mortise (tenon) of the bowsprit. Edited May 24, 2014 by Stergios Beef Wellington, Dimitris71 and Aussie048 3 Quote
drtrap Posted May 24, 2014 Author #393 Posted May 24, 2014 Testing the DB 250 lathe for the jimboom and the relative fittings... Aussie048 and Dimitris71 2 Quote
drtrap Posted May 24, 2014 Author #394 Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) This is a permanent mounting base to see how it is supposed to be.... I've used the 3mm rods cut properly to accomodate the keel Edited May 24, 2014 by Stergios Jobbie, Beef Wellington, jwvolz and 3 others 6 Quote
drtrap Posted May 24, 2014 Author #395 Posted May 24, 2014 Stergios Nice workmanship, the HMS Snake is coming along nicely. Cheers Geoff Hi Geof and thanks for the comment. Waiting to see your copper factory...(?) Aussie048 1 Quote
drtrap Posted May 25, 2014 Author #396 Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) The bowsprit fitted with walnut parts and cleats... I still have the tendency to leave bowsprit and masts unpainted (red arrow) and only varnished (green arrow), just to give a sense of natural wood which, like the outer bulwarks i preffer so much... In the other hand is the option to paint bowsprit and masts in yellow ochre... A "decision making" is needed.... Edited May 25, 2014 by Stergios Dimitris71, Aussie048 and egkb 3 Quote
drtrap Posted May 25, 2014 Author #397 Posted May 25, 2014 All the cleats in place, ready for the gammoning... egkb, WackoWolf, Aussie048 and 1 other 4 Quote
drtrap Posted May 25, 2014 Author #398 Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) I've left the most anterior grating unglued, as I have'nt any 2 mm anchor rope for the moment. Do you still believe that the 2,5 mm supplied rope is so huge and out of scale..?? Edited May 25, 2014 by Stergios Quote
drtrap Posted May 26, 2014 Author #399 Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) I've ordered a couple of walnut dowel for the bowsprit and masts just to feel better the visual difference before I proceed to the the painted yellow ochre option... Edited May 27, 2014 by Stergios Quote
drtrap Posted May 28, 2014 Author #400 Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Cheers all what;s the difference between 0,75 and .75 or 0,50 and .50 likes ...?? I'm thinking about the bowsprit gammoning and bowsprit's collars lines... Edited May 28, 2014 by Stergios Quote
Beef Wellington Posted May 28, 2014 #401 Posted May 28, 2014 I used .75mm for both (seems to be less than that anyway) as it looked more authentic comparing to the 0.5mm line. If you plan to serve the it will also bulk it up a little. Also, there are 2 sets of cleats to add near the base of the bowsprit for the stay collars which are easier to add before installing. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
drtrap Posted May 28, 2014 Author #402 Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) I used .75mm for both (seems to be less than that anyway) as it looked more authentic comparing to the 0.5mm line. If you plan to serve the it will also bulk it up a little. Also, there are 2 sets of cleats to add near the base of the bowsprit for the stay collars which are easier to add before installing. Hi Jason and thank you. I think I'm ok with the pair of the cleats (see my previous pics). Unfortunatelly I have not experience with any serving... Edited May 28, 2014 by Stergios Quote
Beef Wellington Posted May 28, 2014 #403 Posted May 28, 2014 Hi Jason and thank you. I think I'm ok with the pair of the cleats (see my previous pics). Unfortunatelly I have not experience with any serving... Stergios, this is what I'm referring to, right behind the gammoning cleats. There should also be another pair behind this one. I had run out of room so just had to make it work with the heart collars. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
drtrap Posted May 29, 2014 Author #404 Posted May 29, 2014 Stergios, this is what I'm referring to, right behind the gammoning cleats. There should also be another pair behind this one. I had run out of room so just had to make it work with the heart collars. Jason, I cant' locate the second row of bowsprit cleats on the plans. In the other hand I'm trying to undestand what's the reason of their existence.... Quote
Beef Wellington Posted May 29, 2014 #405 Posted May 29, 2014 Hi Stergios, here is picture from Plan 4, the two pairs of cleats are for the main and preventer stay collars. I didn't have enough room to install both so could only install one set, but that was sufficient to separate the the collars. Hope that helps explain what I was referring to. drtrap 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
drtrap Posted May 29, 2014 Author #406 Posted May 29, 2014 Hi Stergios, here is picture from Plan 4, the two pairs of cleats are for the main and preventer stay collars. I didn't have enough room to install both so could only install one set, but that was sufficient to separate the the collars. Hope that helps explain what I was referring to. IMG_0760.JPG ..... perfectly well Jason! Cheers. Quote
drtrap Posted May 29, 2014 Author #407 Posted May 29, 2014 Breaking news: hearts collar rigging scholl in progress, to decide the way of the right collar-tie Quote
drtrap Posted May 29, 2014 Author #408 Posted May 29, 2014 ...to serve the line....can I do it by hand or a special tool I have seen is mandatory? Thanks all Quote
drtrap Posted May 29, 2014 Author #409 Posted May 29, 2014 Hi Stergios, here is picture from Plan 4, the two pairs of cleats are for the main and preventer stay collars. I didn't have enough room to install both so could only install one set, but that was sufficient to separate the the collars. Hope that helps explain what I was referring to. IMG_0760.JPG Well, now I believe I have fixed all the cleats in the right place. To have enough vital room, I cut the rear pairs of cleats at a length of 3mm Vs the 5 mm of the other previously fixed. Beef Wellington and Aussie048 2 Quote
drtrap Posted May 29, 2014 Author #410 Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) I'm almost positive to paint the bowsprit and masts in yellow ochre but leave the outer bulwarks with that "vintage" wood appearance (like Norman ??)... Edited May 29, 2014 by Stergios Quote
Beef Wellington Posted May 29, 2014 #411 Posted May 29, 2014 I purchased a serving machine from Alexey here on MSW, but I have seen people build their own. (I seem to have little enough time to build the ship that I don't want to spend time building tools!) This is my opinion only, serving the rigging components can give some very satisfying results, but it does introduce an additional time factor as everything takes longer to do. Its also a bit addictive, knowing when to stop can be hard - and once you've started to do serving, you're really committing to continue to keep everything consistent. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
drtrap Posted May 29, 2014 Author #412 Posted May 29, 2014 I purchased a serving machine from Alexey here on MSW, but I have seen people build their own. (I seem to have little enough time to build the ship that I don't want to spend time building tools!) This is my opinion only, serving the rigging components can give some very satisfying results, but it does introduce an additional time factor as everything takes longer to do. Its also a bit addictive, knowing when to stop can be hard - and once you've started to do serving, you're really committing to continue to keep everything consistent. I see... I believe that I can live without it... Time is a major pressing component and want to remind myshelf that I bought and started this kit almost 3 yrs before... Beef Wellington 1 Quote
Beef Wellington Posted May 29, 2014 #413 Posted May 29, 2014 I see... I believe that I can live without it... Time is a major pressing component and want to remind myshelf that I bought and started this kit almost 3 yrs before... I know how you feel drtrap 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
drtrap Posted May 31, 2014 Author #414 Posted May 31, 2014 Updating in brief... Dry fitting of the forward bitts and bowsprit bracket and the consecutive steps Dimitris71, jim_smits, Beef Wellington and 4 others 7 Quote
drtrap Posted May 31, 2014 Author #415 Posted May 31, 2014 ...to be continued Aussie048 and Dimitris71 2 Quote
Vasileios Posted May 31, 2014 #416 Posted May 31, 2014 Very nice work Stergios keep up the good work. I am looking forward to seeing your next build, I wonder what it will be Vasileios Quote
drtrap Posted June 1, 2014 Author #417 Posted June 1, 2014 Very nice work Stergios keep up the good work. I am looking forward to seeing your next build, I wonder what it will be Vasileios Thank you Vasileios. To see my next build (even I'm not sure what it will be, but you know my tendency..) I have to accelarate myshelf to finish my second beauty (Snake) Quote
drtrap Posted June 1, 2014 Author #418 Posted June 1, 2014 Nice details Stergios Cheers Geoff Thanks for dropping Geoff a little touch up is needed..... Lightplay 1 Quote
drtrap Posted June 1, 2014 Author #419 Posted June 1, 2014 Next stop: started to learn how to cut the various masts sections (and especially how to make square a round section... ).... Quote
drtrap Posted June 1, 2014 Author #420 Posted June 1, 2014 It was a holly weekend as far as modelism was concerned.... Quick update with some pics. Thanks Jobbie, mtaylor, egkb and 3 others 6 Quote
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