patrickmil Posted March 16, 2014 Share #331 Posted March 16, 2014 I wouldn't normally use it for bonding a non-wooden piece to wood. If you're trying to bond something like metal or plastic then I'd use CA glue. Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara Current: I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday" - John Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share #332 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't normally use it for bonding a non-wooden piece to wood. If you're trying to bond something like metal or plastic then I'd use CA glue. Thanks Patrick I'm asking to bond wood to wood items trying to avoid those undesired glossy spots from the cyano micro-leakage on the deck... Cheers Edited March 16, 2014 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share #333 Posted March 16, 2014 I'm about to sand and fix the aft ladders in place...Jason, Jim have you painted/varnished the wallnut of such deck fittings or have you left them uncovered as natural walnut? Thanks. Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted March 16, 2014 Share #334 Posted March 16, 2014 I'm about to sand and fix the aft ladders in place... Jason, Jim have you painted/varnished the wallnut of such deck fittings or have you left them uncovered as natural walnut? Thanks. Stergios I used PVA wherever possible on untreated wood, but in a number of spots CA is necessary because the surfaces were sealed (either paint or varnish). I used CA for the ladders, but had finished them with matt varnish beforehand, otherwise I've noticed that that CA glue can seep into the wood grain and it leaves unfixable dark patches. Thick CA is my preference as it tends to take the longest to set so maybe gives you a few more micro-seconds to adjust things drtrap 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted March 16, 2014 Share #335 Posted March 16, 2014 Hi Stergios, I've just used some matt varnish for the ladders. Thinking about touching up the visible layers of the ply with some walnut coloured paint. A lot of the other deck fittings were painted red ochre. drtrap 1 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share #336 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Jason, Jim, thank you so much. It was time today to fix in place all the deck blocks and the respective sliding decks, using cyano gel. The conscecutive steps in photos just for the beginners.... Edited March 17, 2014 by Stergios Dubz, Beef Wellington, Aussie048 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share #337 Posted March 30, 2014 Some pics from my recent work... Dubz, egkb, WackoWolf and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share #338 Posted March 30, 2014 All the 18 carronades in place... I've placed the additional couple of the cannons temporarily in front of the most anterior openings just to have a general idea.. My plan is to continue (and finish) with the tackling of the carronades & cannons and leave the deck fittings fixing (ladders, capstan, companionway, pumps) for later ... Jobbie, Dubz, Beef Wellington and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted March 30, 2014 Share #339 Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Looking great Stergios. If you're not planning to already, I'd suggest getting the staghorns and bulwark cleats installed sooner rather than later as this will get trickier as the deck fills up, the ones near the aft platform are probably the most challenging. Forgive me for posting the photo below, but shows what I'm talking about. Edited March 30, 2014 by Beef Wellington egkb, Aussie048 and WackoWolf 3 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share #340 Posted March 30, 2014 Hi Jason I was ready to post a relative question on this issue. I remember quite well your concern going back to last October... Thanks again anyway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share #341 Posted April 13, 2014 Nothing really special, these days... I just posted to say hello.... egkb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted April 13, 2014 Share #342 Posted April 13, 2014 Hello! drtrap and egkb 2 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share #343 Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) I feel so tired every time I need to order aftermarket fittings especially to cover/substitute cheap and deficient materials.. The casting-material of the bulwark cleats is so deficient that the central pin is broken following a minor stress...... So I'm about to place my aftermarket order for another time..... Wishing to do it for the last time, I'd like to ask you my snake-friends do you suggest (from your advanced experience) to order any additional casting fitting should I need during the next stages (masts, etc...) Thanks mates! Stergios Edited April 14, 2014 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share #344 Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) When I'm lloking the aftermarket casting fittings, I believe that the quality of the material is the same like those standard of the kit... Edited April 13, 2014 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted April 13, 2014 Share #345 Posted April 13, 2014 Stergios - only advice I can offer is to drill a hole that isn't too tight. I didn't have too many problems with the pin breaking off but you're right that they are not strong. I did have one break and its probably inevitable given the soft white metal, and don't think there are too many alternatives. For the one that broke, I drilled a hole and inserted some wire - its probably a better solution all around, but didn't do that unless necessary. Hopefully you'll breath a sigh of relief when the cleats are on and the guns are rigged - definitely a change of scene after that. drtrap 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share #346 Posted April 28, 2014 Almost finished with the carronades rigging.... Some pics from the relative progress... Next step water-diluted pva to seal the "frapping"... Thanks Stergios Timmo, egkb, WackoWolf and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share #347 Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) Thinking to leave a stem and cut the running line after its passage under the breeching rope. I dont know how was this real in those days naval world...... Edited April 28, 2014 by Stergios Aussie048, egkb, WackoWolf and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted April 28, 2014 Share #348 Posted April 28, 2014 Carronades look great Stergios, very neat indeed. as far as the ends go, in pictures I've seen they just hang loose for a below any frapping but well clear of the deck. Each one seemed to have a mind of its own but cam off OK. I think with your professional skills you'll be setting the standard here Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share #349 Posted May 1, 2014 Hi to everyone. Almost finished with the carronades rigging... In your experience my friends what's next session or step you advise me to continue with? Every time I see the manual I feel more unsecure than ever! Cheers Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted May 1, 2014 Share #350 Posted May 1, 2014 Seeing as I did my Snake the other way round, you could progress onto the deck furniture? My gratings and the hatches were in place before I did the carronades and I would definately do it the other way round next time...! Also, try and map out where the deck eyelets need to be placed, they are shown on the belaying plan. There are far easier to install now rather than when the deck is full. Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share #351 Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) Seeing as I did my Snake the other way round, you could progress onto the deck furniture? My gratings and the hatches were in place before I did the carronades and I would definately do it the other way round next time...! Also, try and map out where the deck eyelets need to be placed, they are shown on the belaying plan. There are far easier to install now rather than when the deck is full. Thanks Jim for the help. I'd like to ask you, it is important to fix the deck eylets as tightly as I can to withstand the tension of the line/rigging of the masts? Thank you again Edited May 1, 2014 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share #352 Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Trying to find the places for the 14 deck cleats. I've located the 6 of them at the rear platform deck Edited May 2, 2014 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted May 2, 2014 Share #353 Posted May 2, 2014 Thanks Jim for the help. I'd like to ask you, it is important to fix the deck eylets as tightly as I can to withstand the tension of the line/rigging of the masts? Thank you again It is important to get a good fit. It is a balancing act however, between drilling a small enough hole to get a tight fit for the eyelets and making the hole too small and not being able to actually fit the eyelets. They have a tendency to bend under the slightest pressure, so very careful use of fine nosed pliers to push the eyelets in would be advised. I think I use a 0.5mm drill bit for the holes and then some thick cyano applied to the eyelet when fixing in place. drtrap 1 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted May 2, 2014 Share #354 Posted May 2, 2014 Trying to find the places for the 14 deck cleats. I've located the 6 of them at the rear platform deck Problems? Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share #355 Posted May 4, 2014 Problems? Yes Jim, for the mo I'm seeing on the plans only the most aft three pairs of them, on the rear platform... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted May 4, 2014 Share #356 Posted May 4, 2014 Hi mate, Yes, there are three pairs on the rear platform. On sheet 3, which has the belaying plan, the others are marked: A pair at belaying point 5 towards the middle of the main channel. 5 on the foremast. 5 on the mainmast. 3 on the mizzen mast. This makes 23 which is more than is provided..... I had to order some extra. Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share #357 Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) Hi mate, Yes, there are three pairs on the rear platform. On sheet 3, which has the belaying plan, the others are marked: A pair at belaying point 5 towards the middle of the main channel. 5 on the foremast. 5 on the mainmast. 3 on the mizzen mast. This makes 23 which is more than is provided..... I had to order some extra. Hi Jim I'm counting a total of 21 pieces (parts 8, 15, 16, 17, 18 and those three of the mizzen mast on plan No 3) and i feel lucky cause all those 21 pieces are in the box of the kit. I'm so tired in ordering everytime new supplies and waiting approx. two weeks for the delivery.... Edited May 6, 2014 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share #358 Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) This is my point of view to create and drill the eyelets-holes for the deck, the best i can... Thanks Edited May 4, 2014 by Stergios Jobbie and Dimitris71 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted May 4, 2014 Share #359 Posted May 4, 2014 Hi Jim I'm counting a total of 21 pieces (parts 8, 15, 16,17, 18 and those three of the mizzen mast on plan No 3) and i feel lucky cause all those 21 pieces are in the box of the kit. I'm so tired to order everytime new supplies and wait approx. two weeks for the delivery.... Yes that would be 21...... Ooops! Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share #360 Posted May 7, 2014 Yes that would be 21...... Ooops! Right !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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