HMS Snake by drtrap - Caldercraft

[drtrap]

Started to spend my week-end time to other sections...

Using 0,5 copper wire have shaped the strops for the top deadeyes as the kit ones are quite shorter than the width of the top....

The day after I plan to chemically black-oxidize them and close the gaps with cyano glue or solder iron technique.

Good night...

[drtrap]

The stropped deadeys and the basic instrumentation...

[egkb]

Hey There Stergios.. I never thought of using regular copper for that job !! just check that your soldering material will actually 'blacken' when you chemically treat it, some does and some doesn't if I remember correctly.

I'll be doing something similar shortly myself, even ordered a more robust (hopefully) gas fueled soldering iron today   as my 'cheap' electrical one broke during silver soldering some HiFi connections .

 

Eamonn

[drtrap]

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I'll be doing something similar shortly myself, even ordered a more robust (hopefully) gas fueled soldering iron today  .......

 

Eamonn

Hi Eamonn

I'm very interested to hear your feed back for that device, asap.

Cheers. 

[egkb]

Should have it tomorrow as it is next day delivery ! fingers crossed

 

E

[drtrap]

Hey There Stergios.. I never thought of using regular copper for that job !! just check that your soldering material will actually 'blacken' when you chemically treat it, some does and some doesn't if I remember correctly.

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Eamonn

Well, chemical blackening material works fine on copper stropped deadeyes. I don't know why, but i can't treat re-inserting to the chemical a couple of them after the soldering procedure. Perhaps that procedure somehow decreases the blackening purposes of the material?   

Edited October 31, 2014 by Stergios

[Aleksei Domanov]

Well chemical blackening material works fine on copper stropped deadeyes. I don't know why, but i can't treat re-inserting to the chemical a couple of them after the soldering procedure. Perhaps that procedure somehow decreases the blackening purposes of the material?   

 

solder is different material so needs different chemicals for blackening

[drtrap]

Second team of deadeyes for the other top are ready...

To close or not close the mini gaps (using cyano or epoxy glue) as I'm not sure about the upper shroud tensions...??

[drtrap]

solder is different material so needs different chemicals for blackening

Hi, I posted my comment for the same (copper wire) material of the stropped deadeys.

[Aleksei Domanov]

sorry, misunderstood you :-)

what the chemical do you use for copper?

[drtrap]

sorry, misunderstood you :-)

what the chemical do you use for copper?

No problem.

It's a type of blackening material for guns.

It works most of the time but trying to re-plug the deadeyes for a final blackening touch up after the soldering, the result was negative

Edited October 31, 2014 by Stergios

[Aleksei Domanov]

may be you need to degrease it again?

[drtrap]

Mmmm for the mo I'm thinking to use a black water-proof roller for the coverage of some coppered spots.

Thanks.

[drtrap]

I have tried to chemically turn black the second part of the coppered deadeyes (for the other top) the same way, using the same materials, but with no result like the 1st time/part !!!       Is it something changed regarding the terms and rules in physics and chemistry between hours? 

Anyway, I made another part of stropped 3,5 mm deadeyes using regular type of wire, closed the gaps using iron soldering and turned them black (with success this time).  

Pics to follow.

[drtrap]

At this time I'd like to ask for your estimation or experience regarding the tension of the upper shrouds...

Do you believe that is needed any alternative bonding material stronger than the cyano glue for the closure of the loop of the stropped deadeyes (except the iron soldering I've applied in advance)?  

 

A small quantity of cyano glues covers the proximal part of the wire loop....

 

Thanks

[drtrap]

Jason posted a comment about hypo gs cement a couple days before...

The bonding strength of that glue is between the carpenter's and cyano glue or stronger?

Thanks.

 

Stergios

[drtrap]

Serving machine arrived at home.

I plan to see the "attached" cd/dvd before I place my 1st question: what's the most simple thing to serve just for initial experience.....?

[Aleksei Domanov]

Serving machine arrived at home.

I plan to see the "attached" cd/dvd before I place my 1st question: what's the most simple thing to serve just for initial experience.....?

 

any thick by any thin :-)

[Costas]

gia sou Stergie.

 

Molis tora ida to log sou. Teliose telika to montello i akoma to doulevis?

 

Constantinos

[drtrap]

gia sou Stergie.

 

Molis tora ida to log sou. Teliose telika to montello i akoma to doulevis?

 

Constantinos

Akomi Constantine...

Ta leme!

[drtrap]

any thick by any thin :-)

Could you please provide any additional info on "how to secure the serving line (through the rope ??) in the beggining and the end of the serving?

Thanks.

 

Stergios

[Aleksei Domanov]

several ways, for example, put it through using needle.

[drtrap]

several ways, for example, put it through using needle.

...and following that, do you use any kind of glue for additional security?

[Aleksei Domanov]

no , I do not use glue.

1. make a knot

2. start to serve over this end

 

let me know if you need pic, photo or vid of this.

[drtrap]

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let me know if you need pic, photo or vid of this.

Yes please, as a rookie about serving etc, I would be grateful....

Edited November 6, 2014 by Stergios

[Beef Wellington]

Stergios, my only advice would be (and you know I'm not an expert) to expect to make mistakes, but know you'll get a great result in the end.  It does require more thought/planning to make sure that you are serving the right length and its a good idea to mock up a piece to get the right dimensions.  Serving takes a little getting used to, but like riding a bike, the technique is easy once you figure it out.  You can only learn by doing (and if you're me, messing up a few times and learning from mistakes)!  Best of luck, look forward to seeing how it works out.

[drtrap]

Stergios, my only advice would be (and you know I'm not an expert) to expect to make mistakes, but know you'll get a great result in the end.  It does require more thought/planning to make sure that you are serving the right length and its a good idea to mock up a piece to get the right dimensions.  Serving takes a little getting used to, but like riding a bike, the technique is easy once you figure it out.  You can only learn by doing (and if you're me, messing up a few times and learning from mistakes)!  Best of luck, look forward to seeing how it works out.

Thanks for the support and the kind words Jason.

I surely know that it takes time and many efforts to improve myshelf.

All I want is to know in advance the very basic before start, as for example to know how to secure both ends of the serving line to the main rope...

Cheers.

[Ray]

Stergios

               I am newish to serving but have found doing the foremost shrouds on Diana fairly easy to do, I start with just an overhand knot and a dab of super glue and after a few turns say 5mm in length roll it in my fingers, and finish the same way, if you need to stop hang a clip/clamp on the thread and try to keep the thread being served fairly taught, this might not be textbook but it works for me.

Good luck

[drtrap]

Stergios

               I am newish to serving but have found doing the foremost shrouds on Diana fairly easy to do, I start with just an overhand knot and a dab of super glue and after a few turns say 5mm in length roll it in my fingers, and finish the same way, if you need to stop hang a clip/clamp on the thread and try to keep the thread being served fairly taught, this might not be textbook but it works for me.

Good luck

Hey Ray

that's a very helpfull info-point for starting!!

Keep in touch!

Thank you.

 

Stergios

[Aleksei Domanov]

Yes please, as a rookie about serving etc, I would be grateful....

 

Put through and make knot

 

 

Put through and serve over. To fix last bight- make overlapping like knot.