double planking glue

[leroy]

hello, getting ready to double plank ,my bluenose with this super thin walnut I believe it is, anyway, im trying to decide what glue to use, ca or wood glue using a small brush to apply it, or just dap the ca glue every inch as I go, guess each have drawbacks,, what you guys think? thanks

[kenr]

Hi Leroy

Firstly , welcome to MSW

Be sure to start a build log for your Bluenose

To answer your question

Definitely wood glue Use a small brush or old scalpel blade to apply it full length

Wood glue gives you time to position the plank correctly and you can wipe excess off with

with a damp cloth.

CA is much less forgiving Giving you little time to make sure you have the plank correctly

positioned Also I would worry about the strips bubbling or lifting between the drops you apply

 

Hope this helps

 

regards

Ken 

[leroy]

yea that makes sense,, ill go with the wood glue, I don't have a camera so I cant really do a log, I might get one later on though, had one it broke,, the damn thing cost me 170 bucks and I took about 50 pictures,, so I kind of don't want to spend more money on one. im poor

[Ulises Victoria]

Ditto what everyone has said. For raw wood to raw wood nothing beats .... ahem...wood glue.   Titebond also being my favorite.

[leroy]

I got gorilla wood glue, its got a gorilla on the bottle, so I thought that was neat, so I got that

[dgbot]

The problem with gorilla glue is it foams up and makes a mess.  Titebond or Elmers is better.  Less messy and easier cleanup.

David B

[NMBROOK]

Hi David

Gorilla now make several different glues but the packaging nearly all looks the same I have some of the 'foaming' stuff,but they do make a regular PVA type wood glue as well now.

 

Kind Regards

 

Nigel

[dgbot]

Thanks for the update Nigel.  All I have seen is the foaming and the CA.

David B

[cdogg]

leroy, I use these with wood glue, it works great for the second layer planking and spreading the glue in general

 

http://www.mpmschoolsupplies.com/p-18826-plastic-glue-spreaders.aspx?gclid=Cj0KEQjw6deeBRCswoauquC8haUBEiQAdq5zh5Xlpr8N2NuL3qAPa-rPwyUwduPE1sQoVrljQfZspIsaAgEE8P8HAQ

[Ulises Victoria]

Hi David

Gorilla now make several different glues but the packaging nearly all looks the same I have some of the 'foaming' stuff,but they do make a regular PVA type wood glue as well now.

 

Kind Regards

 

Nigel

I have used the wood Gorilla glue with excellent results. Choosing between Gorilla and Titebond is really a very close call.

[testazyk]

I only use CA very sparingly for some metal gluing and to secure knots--it's too hard to work with and has nasty vapours.

 

I agree with others that for gluing wood on wood PVA is the way to go.  The other thing, and this can be important, is that you can wipe off any excess glue with a damp cloth and it won't stain the wood or affect any coating  you put on afterward. 

 

Good luck and I look forward to hearing more about your build!

[leroy]

I used those brushes that you use for flux on copper pipes,, they are cheap reusable and worked really good for what I was doing,, im all done now it turned out great looking,, doing the decking now almost done,, also the gorilla glue I used was for wood only and worked pretty good tacked up fast for a wood glue, sanded off pretty easy as well, I got it at home depot it was about 4bucks for a big bottle of it, enough for 2 or 3 more builds. thanks for all the advice, too bad I don't have a camera I would take some pictures.

[dgbot]

For larger items I use flux or acid brushes.  for small I use a sharpened bamboo skewer. For thinned down I use throw away watercolor brushes when they cannot be cleaned anymore.

David B

[JPett]

Ahoy Leroy  

 

I would suggest you consider something that is "not" waterproof; such as Titebond "original". Mistakes are so much easier to fix when all you need to do is add water. 

[jdbradford]

Be careful when you sand the thin 2nd planking.  I am building the similar Endeavor, and the mahogany strips are .5mm  They began to flake off as I sanded them down.

[SkerryAmp]

Yep,  PVA - althought in my case I use Aleene's Original tacky Glue, it isn't specifically wood glue,  but it works great, plenty of time to move pieces into place and once in place hold and sets pretty well.   I usually thin it with some water and brush it on with an older artists brush.

[hornet]

When applying the thin (0.5 mm) second layer of planking, I use a small drop of the gel type CA glue on the bow end of the plank and then use PVA (the quick drying variety) on the rest of the plank. This means that the plank is instantly secure at the 'pointy end' but can still be manipulated along its length. This works especially well on the more 'blunt' bows. Also, with these very thin planks, you need your first layer of planking to be nice and smooth. No hills and valleys. You really can't afford any more than a light sand with about a 400 grit sandpaper or you will end up sanding back to the first layer. Definitely DO NOT use a wood block or a delta sander of any sort. Light hand sand only.

[JPett]

Ahoy Mates 

 

While I am a big fan of PVA I did find when i did my second planking with walnut a little bit of CA proved very helpful 

 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/?p=24482