Details on captain's cabin, bed place and coach bulheads

[timboat]

Hi,

 

I'm making a 3d model of a frigate and I would like to get all of the details right.  I'm making the bulkheads for the captain's day cabin, captain's bed place and the coach right now and I'm having some issues with my research. 

 

I understand that the panels that make up the bulkhead have hinges at the top that are fasten to the top deck beam by sliding bolts, allowing the panels to be either removed or swung up and secured to the ceiling during battle.  I also understand that there is a strip of rabbet wood on the deck that the panels in the vertical position are secured against with addition sliding bolts at the bottom of the panels. 

 

Because of the shape of the side panels against the bulwark, they can not be secured to the ceiling and must be stowed below during battle.  Depending on the design of the ship, there could be permanent or removable pillars or the pillars are apart of the panels themselves.

 

Now for the questions   Is the center bulkhead that separates the coach and captain's bed place permanent or can it be removed and or swung up to the ceiling and secure like the athwartship bulkheads?

 

Also, possibly the most important question, in all this panel business, how are the doors to the bed place, coach and day cabin built?  Are they simply a door frame with a door that's fashioned just like the bulkhead panels with hinged sliding bolts at the top and sliding bolts at the bottom to lock them to the deck?

 

Last question.  How likely would it be that a ship acquired by privateers or pirates would employ such furnishings?

 

I know this is a long post but I hope ya'll can help me out.  Thanks!

[allanyed]

Tim,

 

What ship and year do you have in mind? 

 

Bulkheads were not always moveable or removeable.  They are describe in a contract of 1666 with no suggestion that they should be removeable, (from Deanes Doctrine page 118 and quoted in Lavery's Arming and Fitting page 172.)  Lavery also goes on to state that the bulkheads became lighter and more mobile during the 18th century but even so the captain's cabins on late eighteenth century frigates were permitted some semi permanent bulkheads.  By an order of 1779, there were to have "one firm bulkhead at the fore part of the captain's apartments and fixed between two guns so as to admit of their being worked in case of a surprise in the night.  The after bulkhead to be of canvas, and fixed as the captain shall desire."

 

Allan

[timboat]

It's suppose to represent a sister ship of the HMS Blandford of 1720, built around 1730.

[dafi]

The sketch of Turner shows Victory after Trafalgar with all the bulkheads undernbeath the poop still stripped after Trafalgar. Also some 1900th pictures show the same.

 

XXXDAn

[druxey]

Are you referring to Turner's sketch in the Tate Gallery ("The Victory, from quarter deck to poop", 1805)? It can be seen on the Tate Gallery site.

[Kevin]

[timboat]

I definitely appreciate your guy's help.  That's a really interesting picture but I need more details on the doors and how they were secured or removed.  Were they hinged to a removable pillar or bulkhead or did they have sliding bolts that securing to the deck below and the deck beam above that acted as means of a pivoting point for the door to open?

Edited September 27, 2014 by timboat

[Kevin]

[Kevin]

http://www.shipmodelersassociation.org/misc/VictoryKitResearchWatton.pdf

 

have a look on page 10

[timboat]

Thanks Kevin!  That's a pretty good picture.  Are those walls removable though?  How does it detach?

 

In one of the photos in the PDF it shows what looks like normal looking door hinges on the quarter deck.  Are those removable?

 

Looking closer at the sketch in the earlier post it looks like the Victory is in a state of refit, so it would be hard to tell if the walls were removable at all.

 

I really appreciate your guys' help.  Round of digital beer on me!  I

[Kevin]

give Chris watton a message, he has redesigned the new Amarti Victory he might have some more details for you, lol - just dont tell i sent you 

Edited September 30, 2014 by Kevin