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Artesiana Latina HMS Victory 1:84 scale kit (REVIEW)
mtdoramike replied to mtdoramike's topic in Wood ship model kits
I agree, but not double the price. Take a car for instance, 15 years ago, an average car would cost you $20,000.00. Now, that same car would cost you $25,000 to $30,000.00 depending on options. Yes, everything goes up with inflation, but rarely doubling the price. -
Artesiana Latina HMS Victory 1:84 scale kit (REVIEW)
mtdoramike replied to mtdoramike's topic in Wood ship model kits
They are all over priced these days. But when you have fools willing to pay the money for them, I guess I can't blame the kit manufactures for over pricing their product. You could by one of the most expensive kits on the planet, the SOS for around $600.00 US less than 15 years ago, but now it's doubled in price. -
Artesiana Latina HMS Victory 1:84 scale kit (REVIEW)
mtdoramike replied to mtdoramike's topic in Wood ship model kits
I bought some Brass Black metal finish to blacken or darken the bright brass on the new cannon. I was torn because I really like the bright brass look of the cannon, but I they were quite bright and not so realistic. They are turning out quite nicely with the Brass Black. I had thought of just painting them a flat black, but the paint I think would hide quite a bit of detail. The Brass Black does not. Hey, for $10.00 I figured why not give it a try. But, be warned, it is finicky . You have to clean and triple clean each item or else it will come out splotchy. You must remove any dirt and even oil from your fingers. So, I just dipped them in alcohol, then vinegar and then into a soapy solution, then wiped them dry and then into the Brass Black and within seconds BAM, they turn black. IT"S MAGIC, well not really, just a chimcal reaction. -
I love that shot through the cannon portal, really cool. You did a tremendous job planking the deck. I'll tell you, that hull planking wood supplied by Constructo is absolutely gorgous. Constructo is one of the top kit manufactors when it comes to supplying top not wood in their kits.
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The cleats you show in the photo from Constructo aren't all that bad. They look decent. Any material you use will require some finishing like filing or sanding. Once installed and line wrapped around them, you won't really notice them. So if push comes to shove, I wouldn't hesitate to use them.
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hahahahahahaha, I have built a P-51 several years ago for a client.I flew it twice and then off she went to the new owner. It was electric R/C with brushless motor and lipos setup.
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Man, if there is one victory that deserves to be finished in natural wood, it's this beauty right here. My hat is off to you Paul. I stand corrected, not all victory's need or should be painted.
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I vote for "D" none of the above:) It looks like a neat beginner model to build. By reviewing the instructions it isn't that complicated to build for a novice or if an experienced modeler wanted a starting point for a good kit bashing. The only down side to this model is, it's a Billings kit. Although I like Billings kits, they tend to use an awful lot of plastic parts and prefrabricated wooden parts. But a good kit bashing could eliminate those issues.
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The stern look great. I would sand down the anchor collars a bit though they look a bit beefy. I would go with rope.
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Ahhhh, use the lead, if there were corrosion issues with it, you would notice it when opening those 60 year old kits. If the parts haven't gone south by now, I doubt they will.
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WOW, the Vic? is a real rough piece of work I think the builder stood several feet away with a paint brush tied to a stick to do that paint job. hahahahaha. Mike
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Artesiana Latina HMS Victory 1:84 scale kit (REVIEW)
mtdoramike replied to mtdoramike's topic in Wood ship model kits
The model will be 49" inches in length when finished. It really is a shame that the companies are cheaping out and not printing the plans anymore. I usually build strictly by the plans and chunk the instructions in the garbage. I also checked with Office Depot and they can print out the plans on 24x36 sheets for $2.00 a sheet and I believe there are 9 sheets total. So for less than $20.00 you can get your plans printed. -
I have built my fair share of models that someone else started and I had to finish them. WOW, no disrespect to the previous builder, but you got some work ahead of you, This must have been his first model build attempt because that was some rough looking work there.
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You will use that sander more than any other tool you have except for maybe a rotary tool.
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Yes, Constructo does use castings that are less desirable than some other kits, AL kits are the same with this issue. But one good thing is, we can always substitute inferrior castings with really nice ones with the money we saved on the kits. One major issue I have with Caldercraft that I just couldn't get over was the use of so much preformed sections from stern to gunwhales. To me these sections look better built up. Also, Constructo uses better woods than most other kits and Victory not excluded. There are very few Victory kits that I would consider not painting and Constructo's version is one of the few. But then again, the wood is one thing, but talent to build it and make it fit enough for a natural finish without gaps and wood filler is another issue. You my friend are a natural at this and I see many more models in your future.
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Artesiana Latina HMS Victory 1:84 scale kit (REVIEW)
mtdoramike replied to mtdoramike's topic in Wood ship model kits
Okey, here is an update. I have determined that either I got a bad cut kit or they are all this way, but of all the model ships I have built, this is the first kit that I have had to shim better than half of the bulkheads while planking just to get them to run true without any dips in them. Planking is getting rather exhausting after laying a couple of planks, checking them and then having to go back and shim 3, 4, or 5 bulkheads in a run. I feel like this kit is fighting me every step of the way so far. I'm just short of calling this kit a dog. But I'm not far from it. I'm missing the Mainsail and the foresail, although I have the full accompaniment of sails (19). Artesania Latina used to be one of my favorite manufactures for those lower budget kits, but after spening over $500.00 for this kit, which a bit more than I have ever spent on a previous kits, I'm beginning to wonder. The white or natural wood color is the shims. -
The more I watch this build log, the more I wish I had went with the Constructo Vic version rather than the AL version. I have built numerous model ships and I have yet to find one that requires shimming of half or better of the bulkheads while planking in order to get a true run and to fair them. For the price of the AL kit, I would have expected better. AL is one of my favorite model manufactures or at least they used to be back many moons ago. But now I'm wondering.
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Very nice work. I love the locker idea.
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Tom, I have it packaged up and will mail out Monday.
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I would check the scale of the Caldercraft Vic figerhead, the scale may be off a bit. But if it's any where close, I would opt for it if possible especially if you don't like the one included with the kit.
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I built the Model Shipways version without sails and think she is beautiful that way as well. The fellow I built her for didn't want sails on her. So his wish was my command.
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Where are you located? Was the CD missing from the kit? Good luck getting anything from AL, I'm missing two sails and have emailed them without any response.
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I might have been interested if all the parts were there. But there are too many if's for me. I like all the parts to be together before I start a build, especially one of these. They remind me of programs you could buy into back in the 50's and 60's and sometimes companies would go out of business before the project was completed leaving you hanging. You would be better off getting the rest of the installments and then selling it as a completed installment kit. But whether you would ever come close to getting your investment back out of it or not would be the question.
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