Thistle17

You have to bring her to one of our fall meetings Rusty! It is turning out to be such a beauty in the wood you have chosen. I should think it will inspire us all especially our newest members.
Joe

You have turned design for laser machining into an art form Chuck, i.e. the windlass and now the chain pump! What is next????
Joe

You have to bring her to one of our fall meetings Rusty! It is turning out to be such a beauty in the wood you have chosen. I should think it will inspire us all especially our newest members.
Joe

Have some time to model I see. Your quality of work never skips a beat Rusty! That can be hard to do with limited time. I observe the mornings are best for me.
Joe

After licking my wounds on the terrible results of the ships wheel I have decided to make my own or at least try my hand at it. Using the one I made I took dimensions off the wheel and created a drawing suitable for replication. I did increase the diameter of the wheel a bit after sizing the one I made on the model. It was a tad smaller than what i would imagine. It will be checked out when the drawing finally arrives.
 
While I had the model out I managed to remove the hub of the missing wheel. I speculate the original modeler may have purchased one as the hub seemed at first glance to be a molded element. In addition it is an 8 spoked wheel rather than the 10 of the one I fabricated.
 
My appraoch to the fabrication attempt is as follows:
- Fabricate and glue 4 pieces of boxwood segments such that end grain will be minimized
- Laminate 3 overlapping layers with the outer 2 layers of thinner stock such that the glue joints are not aligned
- Mount this on my end mill and turn the outer diameter.
- Mount the turned element on my revolving table vertically to drill the 8 spoke holes
- Return the piece to its normal postion and mill the inner diameter but with tabs.
- The hub is somewhat problematical because of its dimuitive diameter and the need to drill 8 more aligned holes. That is going to take some thinking.
 
Now the spokes solution. I think I have found suitable 13mm belaying pins of the correct scale and length (Crafty Sailor) to use for the wheel spokes. We will see. I hope to have some fabrication photos along the way but will await the drawing to check my dimensions.
 
Do I have backup plan? Yes I do! Harbor Models has a wheel that appears to do the job if this fails.
 
Joe

After licking my wounds on the terrible results of the ships wheel I have decided to make my own or at least try my hand at it. Using the one I made I took dimensions off the wheel and created a drawing suitable for replication. I did increase the diameter of the wheel a bit after sizing the one I made on the model. It was a tad smaller than what i would imagine. It will be checked out when the drawing finally arrives.
 
While I had the model out I managed to remove the hub of the missing wheel. I speculate the original modeler may have purchased one as the hub seemed at first glance to be a molded element. In addition it is an 8 spoked wheel rather than the 10 of the one I fabricated.
 
My appraoch to the fabrication attempt is as follows:
- Fabricate and glue 4 pieces of boxwood segments such that end grain will be minimized
- Laminate 3 overlapping layers with the outer 2 layers of thinner stock such that the glue joints are not aligned
- Mount this on my end mill and turn the outer diameter.
- Mount the turned element on my revolving table vertically to drill the 8 spoke holes
- Return the piece to its normal postion and mill the inner diameter but with tabs.
- The hub is somewhat problematical because of its dimuitive diameter and the need to drill 8 more aligned holes. That is going to take some thinking.
 
Now the spokes solution. I think I have found suitable 13mm belaying pins of the correct scale and length (Crafty Sailor) to use for the wheel spokes. We will see. I hope to have some fabrication photos along the way but will await the drawing to check my dimensions.
 
Do I have backup plan? Yes I do! Harbor Models has a wheel that appears to do the job if this fails.
 
Joe

If i may ask? You seem to move ahead at great speed yet with incredible accuracy and precision. I am always mystified how one does so and yet maintains the quality you present. Do you spend many hours in a day at this and do you mass produce your elements via CNC or do you hand machine every part?
Joe

If i may ask? You seem to move ahead at great speed yet with incredible accuracy and precision. I am always mystified how one does so and yet maintains the quality you present. Do you spend many hours in a day at this and do you mass produce your elements via CNC or do you hand machine every part?
Joe

Rusty have you determined where bulkheads #29 fit into the stern construction?
Joe

Good idea Rusty on weighting them down. My environment is a bit more humid and I have even got in the habit of covering the work in progress with plastic sheeting. Those scroll saw blades do a great job by the way!
Question: I believe you said you were using Birch ply is that correct. Is it Baltic Birch?
Joe

Your religous adherence to faithful reproduction is astounding! I need to go to confession.
Joe

Your religous adherence to faithful reproduction is astounding! I need to go to confession.
Joe

So impressive Rusty. Perhaps you could be persuaded to speak to your advancement at our next video conference????
Joe

Oh the time spent on making these diminuitive parts. Have we all lost our minds? Half kidding and half serious. I do think that such dedication and craftmanship does rival some of the best works of the time. I do hope they are appreciated long after we have "pushed off shore". Great work Rusty.
 
Joe 

Your religous adherence to faithful reproduction is astounding! I need to go to confession.
Joe

Your religous adherence to faithful reproduction is astounding! I need to go to confession.
Joe

I still await the drawing from the Smithsonian and assume "I am in the queue for a drawing next week" was abit optomiostic on their part. In the meantime I built the correct scale ships wheel from the minikit from Syren. I would offer that it was a humbling and frustrating build experience. I have to give myself a C- of a grade on quality.
 
I followed the directions quite closely and I don't feel my small motor control capability has dimished to the point where I am not able to achieve a decent job on most any component. The challenge with this assembly is two fold in my estimation. The parts are incredibly small and when Syren expresses a caution about sanding it should be taken seriously. The parts unsanded fit snugly into the build jig, however any over sanding of the char yields too loose a fit. Secondly the outer bands are made from .025 thick boxwood. Invariably they are prone to breakage especially the larger arc as it's lower sections run with the grain. Turning the spokes even with careful turning with a fine cut watchmakers file to round over the elements was challenging as well. I would recommend a purchase of two kits using one for practice. This is likely a practice piece.
 
I am possessed! I just can't live with this failure. I have to find a better solution or get much,better at this mini kit.
Joe
 

Things are starting to come together albeit slowly. Two orders from Syren finally landed the right size ship wheel. The 1 inch diameter wheel is most correct. Chuck tells me all is not lost having the larger wheel as it is going on the Winchelsea.
 
Secondly I had an email exchange with the Smithsonian and I should be in the queue for a drawing mailing some time next week.
 
The age of this model and any top coat of poly or whatever that was applied has given the exisiting model a rich tan patina. Just fashioning basswood replacement pieces is not going to be acceptable. Some experimenting will be in order before I go too far.
 
Joe

Glenn I think you meant Crafty Sailor. The web site is Wooden Belaying Pins (10pcs) – Crafty Sailor Model Store
 
I first bought a couple packages just to see for myself. i was quite satisfied of with the quality so I went back and ordered more of each size. I spoke to him about updating the web site with the missing dimensions and now appears he has. They are quite good in my estimation and he too is a responsive business person.
Joe

Glenn I think you meant Crafty Sailor. The web site is Wooden Belaying Pins (10pcs) – Crafty Sailor Model Store
 
I first bought a couple packages just to see for myself. i was quite satisfied of with the quality so I went back and ordered more of each size. I spoke to him about updating the web site with the missing dimensions and now appears he has. They are quite good in my estimation and he too is a responsive business person.
Joe

Glenn I think you meant Crafty Sailor. The web site is Wooden Belaying Pins (10pcs) – Crafty Sailor Model Store
 
I first bought a couple packages just to see for myself. i was quite satisfied of with the quality so I went back and ordered more of each size. I spoke to him about updating the web site with the missing dimensions and now appears he has. They are quite good in my estimation and he too is a responsive business person.
Joe

Part of the interest in modeling is problem solving. I think we all can agree on that. Today I went to our local automotive supply house to look for some pin stripe tape but as they do not specialize in automotive finishing their supply was meager. Just down the street at Performance Hobby I found what may be a very good solution to this journey of fabricating or simulating mast bands and other iron work. This ULTRASTRIPE product is new to me. It is made in Germany and comes in different colors and widths. The concern I think we all have had is a product that has long lasting attributes. As this is made for model airplanes it is fuel resistant and it has the property of forming a permanent bond with the application of heat in the range of 250/300 degrees F. It can be repositioned before heat application.
Joe

Ah now I understand. Indeed there is a bit of a gap as the solder job was not as good as I hoped. Hard to remove and redo as I started with the bottom band and worked up. As I said i got better at it as I progressed.
Joe

Glenn your right about the 3rd one down but the bottom one has to protrude out further because of the shroud line layering as mentioned above. At least that is what i understand from the post and the drawing.
Joe

It is so good to have someone take up this need on a enterprise basis. I do hope we don't inundate him with orders that tend to be of the hoarding nature. At least not at the outset. Now having said that would you consider Winchelsea in boxwood?
Joe