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ok sorry. was just blown away by the size of the box. and yes i now know your bismark is a wooden kit (envious). you are doing a superb job on her. congratulations. funny how a ship our nation so reviled when she was afloat has now become one of the most admired ships in modern history! cheers chris

g'day brian, are you the member building the trumpeter bismark? i noticed that float a boat had this kit in stock when i visited. price i think was 330 odd. question for you: how much for the upgrade kit to this plastic model? as an ex pusser would love to tackle her but only if i can get wooden decks, authentic blast bags etc etc. cheers chris

that is the question? given they don't really stand out too much on the real article i'm wondering why i should bother? i know it seems most "hot" builds here go with the pronounced deck treenail configuration but in reality they are almost invisible. so: to treenail or not to treenail? that is the question.

hi all, is there a site/post that gives scale for deck and hull planking? i.e.. how many cms for a 1:50, 1:48, 1:60 model etc. this is for length. cheers chris

personally i have bought many items from nature coast hobbies in florida. never had a problem. can't recommend them highly enough and their prices are way cheaper than here in australia; even with postage etc.

ok so i'm just starting amati bounty 1:60 and not only is it my first bluff bowed ship but it also has a false keel. given the two build logs by navis and roman were lost in the great collapse and i can't seem to contact either of them i put out this sos to any other builder of this model who happens to have pics from the early stages of the build, thanks chris

hi mark, i have sent roman numerous pm's about the subject but have yet to receive a reply. chris

hi brian thanks for the quick reply. have emailed gary at modeller's shipyard about the wooden fittings. i can't seem to find them on their site but i will wait till gary replies. roman is from russia i think so i reckon he got these wooden improvements from somewhere in europe. to tell you the truth though the decking wood i've pretty much made my mind up to replace it with a lighter timber but am more concerned about the first planking strip

hi there all i've just opened the box on my new build which is the amati bounty scale 1:60. mamoli golden hind gets to take a break whilst i await belaying pins (surprise, surprise there weren't enough in the kit - will never ever buy another mamoli kit). anyway back to bounty. firstly a lot of parts are cast metal that should actually be wood. now after having reviewed roman roganov's build log on here i see it is possible to buy these parts in wood (see pic. all credit to roman i borrowed it from his log - hope you don't mind). so does anybody know where to purchase this? also first layer planking is 1.5 x 6 walnut strip. this seems like a too rigid wood to me for first layer planking. just wondering if anyone else has come across this for first layer planking. also second layer is 0.5 x 4 walnut. this is what i would expect and am happy with that. however the plans also call to use this strip to plank the decks. my concern is that it is very dark and most of the logs i've seen of this build the deck is considerably lighter than the second planking. should i bite the bullet and buy lighter timber for the decking? thoughts? and lastly for now at least the model has a very convoluted bow section set up. why can't i just use balsa filler blocks like i have on all my other builds. if anyone out there has built this particular model can answer me on that i would be greatly appreciative. have tried to pm navis factorem who produced a superb model of this kit but it seems he is off the air. thanks for your time. chris

g'day david your bounty turned out superbly and is a real credit to you. i see you're from australia, so am i. may i ask where you got your perspex case form and how much was it. i have two builds to house but the cases i've seen all cost more than the model. also did you assemble it or did it come assembled. tks chris

Hi Brian have ordered the Amati bounty as i found their santa maria very good in regards to quality, unlike mamoli golden hind. assuming the family take the hint, and i reckon they have, should be delivered on my 50th in early sept.

great build mate did you make the cabinet in front of the wheel yourself or is it in the kit? also how did you do your treenails?

Hi am just, well in a few weeks, to start on the Amati Bounty 1:60. Does anyone know if she was copper plated under the waterline? I know this particular kit doesn't come with copper plates but i've seen it done and it looks pretty fantastic. But i would only want to do it if the real thing had it. i see the life-size replica which sank during Sandy was copper plated but there seem to be a lot of bounty models that don't have plating and a few that do. Also if anyone has built this kit any feedback on it would be appreciated as i can't seem to find many build logs for her. this will be my third build after Amati Santa Maria and Mamoli Golden Hind and i intend to do a log of this build for the group. tks Chris

thinking about next project after mamoli golden hind and i reckon bounty would be an interesting build. any thoughts or recommendations on a particular kit? tks chris

naturecoast.com i'm in australia but get all my stuff from them. they are in florida (i think) and heaps cheaper than anywhere i can buy from in aus. have never had any problems with them and they have a huge range of kits and accessories. thoroughly recommended.

how far into Bismark are you and what company actually produced the model?

tks Brian but would never consider doing a weekly, rip off the consumer, might stop supplying half way through subscription type of arrangement. must be some out there

hi, does anybody know of any sites or suppliers of quality static wooden models for ships ww11 and beyond? being ex RAN would love to build an old DE but also love Bismark, Hood, Mighty Mo, Arizona etc. A lot of the period companies offer up Titanic but i don't see many warships. have been to many model expo's around the country (Australia) and have seen many great and highly impressive plastic models but for me going back to plastic after 4 wooden kits and developing the skills to build them doesn't wash with me. BTW i served on HMAS Torrens before they blew her out of the water. politicians have no understanding that a mans ship is his castle!

well my current build mamoli golden hind is definitely double planked. BUT, and its a big but, i found the timber was very brittle and probably more important way less than required to complete the hull. luckily with golden hind the lower (below the waterline) part of the hull is painted white ( on the box at least) so i could use on hand stock from left over other builds. i estimate i was 8 - 10 second layer planking short. then hand rail strips non existent. seriously if this ship wasn't one of my favs i'd put it on the back burner and kick off my corel victory. in short - i have had a bad experience with mamoli - albeit i've only got 1 of their kits. but given the price these things cost for me its going to be a case of once bitten twice shy. really hope you have better luck than me with this brand if you go down that track. cheers chris

the amati version is a really good reasonably priced kit. i would highly recommend for someone who has done 1 or 2 other models. its definatley not beginner but also not too advanced that you can't produce a really nice model

Hey mate have built the Amati version and found the kit was very good overall. don't like the metal lifeboat so built a wooden one and the instructions are not child proof. overall result was a model i was more than pleased with, will post pics of her if i can get it back from my mother. having said that i'm currently building mamoli golden hind and am very disappointed in both the quality and quantity of the wood supplied - second planking especially very brittle and not enough. may not happen with all their kits so i don't want to bag them too much. all in all i'd go with the amati its still a good size. btw i built mine without sails although they are supplied, i think a model of this size with full sails hides too much detail but you could furl them i suppose. anyway good luck with your final choice - she is my favourite ship!

Hey Cristi best of luck have only really had problems with mamoli and to be fair maybe it was just that kit and i was unlucky; but i'm in Australia and SOS costs over 2 grand here so you can understand my interest. anyway have fun will be watching with interest cheers Vossy

Hey cristkc am looking closely at this model for a future build can you let the group know of the wood quality and quantity please. have built Amati Santa Maria (great quality wood and reasonable amount) Mamoli Golden Hind (very poor quality wood and not enough, just as well below the waterline is painted so can cheat with other timbers. also poor quality fittings and badly misshaped parts) half way through Corel Victory (great quality throughout) would love an appraisal before forking out the considerable sum this model costs. would not touch another Mamoli kit cheers Vossy

don't worry about removing the patina. it can be bought at most specailist paint or craft shops (at least in australia). i use it a fair bit in my job. vossy

Hi all a question for the group. should i lay the second planking in one length or break it up like the decking to represent scale?