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Nice work, and lovely to see a yellow version :-)

Daniel

Great work Gary, a pleasure to see!, Daniel

Thanks Popeye, and Dirk

it is quite interesting and intriguing to see the difference on the gun port lid fittings as soon as you look closer.

That each lid has his own and unique form is quite well known: the curve of the deck, the cutting though the whales and the doubling of this planking in combination with the vertical frames.

Also the Navy-Board defined the size of the gun ports by the calibers. But just the intended ones while building so that a later change in ordonance was leading to inconsistencies in the caliber/size ratio.

Also the details are interesting. Todays Vic in P shows five different versions.

- The lower deck has the small build in vent scuttles. For practical reasons I do believe, that the hinge should point forwards, for that waves slamm this small lid close and no open. So we have a starboard and port version. Two lanyards and two eyebolts on the inside for good and secure lashing when shut

- The middle deck is much the same, with no vent scuttles: Also two lanyards and two eyebolts on the inside 

- The upper gun deck had much smaller ports, here we have two lanyards and just one eyebolt on the inside

- The Lids on the quarter deck cabins have two versions:

             - the classical lid with just one lanyard and also one eyebolt on the inside

             - and the half lids opening sideways in the area of the channels too protect the deadeyes from the fire (if I understood right)

Yes Dirk, thank you, no matter the material one uses, with a little bit of soul applied it could look like this:

The decoration of the guns changed frequently. In the Navy the guns got the monogram of the king ruling at the moment of it´s cast. In front of the museum in Vienna (Heeresgeschichtliches Museum Wien) there are severeal dozen of great brass guns, plenty of french origin: all are different in design and decoration. Perhaps it is possible to find one form that could be the closest to a certain type that would be not wrong to be used as a general type.

DAniel

Thank you Eddie your wish is my command :-)

 

Nice build, love it, great details.

The "squaere" hammocks are called cods if I am not mistaken, and usually for officers and on the V in P also in the sic bearth.

"Normal" sailors used simple hammocks - just the cloth with the strings on the end.

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Daniel

Hello Chris,

wonderful kit and thanks for explaining. I know the problem in between being historically correct and the people comparing to todays Vic pictures: Where are the plumes???

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As I also often looked at this model, I found many "odd" features about it, especially the in the bow section. Do you have any ideas/hints/proves to where this model came from? Was it "as repaired", was it a pure study or "as planned"?

There are several models in NMM all to be around the same time and all off them being completely different ...

Also interesting to see the stern on pictures of about 1880/1900

Best regards, Daniel

I think the older version was red. Somewhere about 1800+/- it was changes into yellow ochre.

Anybody more precise details?

XXXDAn

Nice work :-)

Daniel

I think I will still have to come to the decals topic one day too - the fire buckets on the poop are still waiting ...

Something I did not show yet properly that could be beneficial too for other scales and ships are the plate of eyebolts and hooks ...

 ... and one with extra fine gratings for the launches ...

... the backside of course with the visible battens ;-)

Cheers Daniel

Oh year the Revell Cutty,

did this one too when I was twelve. I was proud like a pair of socks in those days because of the painting I did and which I found IMPACCABLE ...

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XXXDAn

Hy Mark, good luck for the planking :-)

Looks great so far!

Daniel

Thank you Mark and Popeye!

My vic alost once took an escape towards the left through the small gap between window and the banister as I was using still the original heller stand ...

... I immediately gave it a solid heavy slipway where it is well fixed to avoid further fugativ tendencies ...

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One lucky ranging shot from fate is truly enough! No need to challenge it twice.

XXXDAn

I do believe not, as we did not bother, as I always say, no matter what material you use, if the model has a soul, nobody bothers anymore about the material :-)

Daniel

PS: That is why I am thankful, that there is no separation of plastik and wood here in MSW as in some other places - it IS nonsense to me.

 ...hihihihihihi...

... today someone of a german forum contacted me to "my wonderful wooden model" ...

...hihihihihi...

... wooden ...

I agree with B.E.

It is technically not necessary to add some ballast. Some people do as it makes the model sit better in the stand as long as it is not permanentely fixed yet and afterwords in does not move around the table that much.

Also some people add weight as it suggests a higher value to those handling it. The BIG plastic shavers used to have a bit of lead inside for that reason, also loudspeakers were sometimes given extra weight for this sole reason even though being light weight construction ...

Ship wont be moved that often, but if so, it is heavy- it must be solid - it must be gooooooood :-)

XXXDan

The glueing onto the test hull now was rather boring to me apart from the thrill if things will work out, but the developing and fiddling out the drawings and production was a too tempting task :-)

The even more exciting task is bringing life to them on the real build, looking forward to it.

XXXDAn

... I never know what you are about to come up[ with next, ....

... neither do I ...

Thanks Lawrence and Frank

Looking good .-)

Love the blue carpet it gives a nice and homy touch to the needy sailors ;-)

XXXDAn

Thanks Jan,

you know I treasure your critical eye :-)

But this is the difference that one step more in development can do. By now I have to say, that they became a great alternative for the builds to follow even to my self made ones  and are a gigantic time saver and are in some respects even more crisp in appearance.

Daniel

I think he only is upset, the messmate fetching the food is late ...

XXXDAn

So dinner is served, the official start is done, the sets are available:

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Or straight from the source:

Very interesting the information about the spacing. I already wondered by doing the "by the deep 17" why there are no drainage holes in the channels. 

I read the same thing about the fenders, those also should be spaced (source do not remember, thankful for hints) and also the sidesteps had holes which also helped to hold while climbing up

DAniel