Supplies of the Ship Modeler's Handbook are running out. Get your copy NOW before they are gone! Click on photo to order.
×
-
Posts
9,449 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Reputation Activity
-
Chuck reacted to Mic_Nao in L' Egyptienne 1799 by Mic_Nao - Scale 1/48 - 24-gun French frigate
I'm opening this topic dedicated to the Frégate de 24 l'Egyptienne, designed by François Caro and built in Toulon in 1799.
The documentation (based on the English and French archives) was established by Gerard Delacroix in a monograph published by Ancre in 2019.
This exceptional monograph includes a history, then very many 3D sketches that run through the entire ship. Many photos also of two models of the Egyptian exhibited at the Musée de la Marine in Paris, then 39 plates complete the work.
I chose to build my model ( poirier, buis,ébène érable ) at 1/48 which will make a model of almost one meter thirty. 24 frigates were called "heavy frigates".
I post some photos of the beginning of construction:
-
Chuck got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
I finished the first layer for the wales. Basically I added two more strakes below the first that was added. I show this image because its the first that gives you a good indication of what the hull will eventually look like. This is as low as the planking will reach on the hull. Everything you see below the wales is left unplanked and these frames will remain visible. I do love a fully planked hull though. Its my preference actually. But like everyone else, I would be crazy to cover up all of that hard work with the frames.
I will add two more strakes now above the wales. They are also 7/32" wide. Then it will be time to remove all of the top jigs. Yippeee!!!
Chuck
-
Chuck got a reaction from Edwardkenway in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
Thanks Greg....I am hopeful that with 5 strakes carefully glued to each frame it wont be an issue. But that is good advice.
Chuck
-
Chuck got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
The first thing that needs to be done in preparation for planking is to paint the port openings. It is much easier to do so now and those familiar with all of my Syren projects will recognize this step. I am using the same Crimson Acrylic red for this model that I use for all of them.
One note however, rather than just start painting, this model has many laser cut sweep ports. The insides of the sweep ports have laser char on them. You really cant successfully just paint over that. The red wont cover it and will appear too dark. You dont want to sand it off. That would be bad. It would change the precision shape of those port openings.
Instead of sanding, I painted the insides of the sweep ports with a very light tan first. This will cover the char without compromising the shape of the sweep ports. I mixed Titanium White with some brown and yellow Ochre. Once that paint dried I switched to the Crimson.
One additional note....The quarter badge opening and window area was painted tan and will NOT be painted red. This will be left tan as the great cabin will remain unpainted.
Once the painting was complete I taped the two templates into position on both sides of the model.
This is a VERY important step. Just like when using a batten, you must view the hull at all angles. Ensure that the template is even on both sides of the hull. The bottom edge of the templates represent the top edge of the wales. You will be carefully tracing along the bottom edge of each template to mark the location for the first planking strake to be placed on the hull.
Make sure the run is good and at equal height at the bow and stern both port and starboard.
I forgot to mention that you should cut out all of the sweep ports and gunports from the template before taping it on the hull. In addition, cut out the fixed blocks on the templates too. You will be tracing and marking the exact locations for the fixed blocks and the sweep port covers as well as the bottom edge of the templates.
We will be adding the sweep port covers to the hull soon so we can plank around them. The same is true for the fixed block shells.
Use a hard lead pencil so it keeps a sharp point longer. Yes the lead will leave a lighter line but it will be more precise. Use a 4H or even a 6H pencil for marking the hull.
When you are done tracing these elements and the bottom edge of the templates, remove the them carefully. We will be using them again many times. Cut away any tape that hangs over the edges of the template. Dont try and remove it...the template will tear. Then store the templates safely for later use.
Here is what the hull looks like after removing the templates.
You can hopefully see my reference line that shows the top edge of the wales. But its hard to see the sweep port lines in the photo. Thats OK. Just know that they are there. You can see the locations of the fixed blocks.
We will be adding the first strake which represents the first layer for the top of the wales. This is probably the most crucial of planking steps. So take you time with it. If the run and fit for this first plank is wrong then all of your planking will be wrong. It will be hard to recover from that.
The strips are 7/32" x 3/64" Yellow cedar. I have a whole bunch of them ready to go. All have been matched for color. All three strakes for the wales are 7/32" wide. Try really hard to align the top of the strip with your reference line on the hull. Make sure you match the placement port and starboard.
I wont rehash how to plank and how to bend the strips. I have done that so many times. Just refer to the tutorials and many logs on this site. Or download the respective chapters for the Cheerful or the Winchelsea. I am using a travel iron and bending and twisting as usual. The first strake or the upper wales have been completed. At least the first layer. I prefer to use two layers. You could however just use a thicker strip and complete the upper and lower strakes in one layer instead. Its up to you. But I personally prefer two layers because I think I can do a much better and cleaner job with the painting and placement.
With this upper wale in place...now its time to add two more strakes of the same width and thickness below this one. It sounds easy enough, but remember to get a good tight fit against the strakes already on the hull. I am also using a #2 pencil to shade one edge of each strake to simulate the caulking. Although on the upper and lower wales its not important. Its only the first layer. I would however simulate the caulking on the middle layer of the wales because it is only one layer thick. I a referring to the butt joints only.
One last very important note: When gluing these three strakes for the wales onto the hull, make sure you glue the strips to each and every frame. Its the planking that will hold the hull together when we remove the top jigs. So the frames need to be really secure to the planking. Place a drop of glue (your choice of PVA or CA) to each and every frame as you proceed. When we complete two or three strakes above the wales later, thats when we will remove the top jigs and establish the sheer properly. So thats coming up soon. If the planks arent secured to the frames it might be a disaster in the making. But maybe not. I am just a nervous Nelly.
-
Chuck got a reaction from Trussben in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
The Speedwell castings arrived. Just like the Winnie these are cast in a very light Tan. Almost white but not. This is a big help for the finishing. They were treated just like those on the Winnie. See the unfinished quarter badge on the can of gel stain?
I used Old Masters gel stain. The color is Fruitwood. This is the best color for our purposes in my opinion. Just brush it on and let sit for a few minutes. The longer you leave it on the deeper and darker your color will be. Dont leave it on too long...you can always add another coat after it dries.
Brush it off before it dries however with a soft clean brush. Almost buff it. The more you brush the more you will remove. This evens it all out while leaving darker bits in the deeper areas. But not overly so.
The one drawback with this method is the parts tend to get shiny. But a quick spray with some dull coat after it dries does the trick. The color matches quite well as you can see. This preserves all the detail as well because unlike paint, this does not build up and obscure the small details.
-
Chuck got a reaction from Ryland Craze in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Great start at raising frames Mike.
-
Chuck got a reaction from mtaylor in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
Great start at raising frames Mike.
-
Chuck reacted to LegoKing5522 in Bluenose by LegoKing5522 - Model Shipways - 1:100 - Canadian Fishing Schooner
i am sorry for the long delay, I've been kind of busy lately. any how I finished painting the hull. for the red I mixed navy blue and bright red together, there are about three coats of red on the hull. then two coats black, and like five coats of white. then to finish it I spraypainted a gloss coat over the hull.
oh, also sorry about my terrible pictures I am not an expert with the camera lol.
-
Chuck reacted to Stuntflyer in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
I will use the Aa frame as a reference for aligning the other square frames. It's important keep this frame from moving laterally while at the same time being centered with the stem and stern post.
The first step was to come up with a way to hold the frame firmly in place. A low profile chock placed under the frame and against the build board was one option, but I wanted a more rigid solution. Using clamped machinist squares against the frame was not an option, since they would surely get in the way when working around the build board. The solution was to make two squares from some boxwood scrap. The bottom leg has milled slots which allows the squares to move in and out. 4-40 bolts and blind nuts would be used to hold the squares firmly in place.
The next step was aligning the center of the frame with the stern post and stem. I ran a string between these two points. Due to the difference in height between the stem, stern post and frame tops the string angled in such a way as to create excess pressure against the frame top. When I snapped the string the centerline varied because the string couldn't move freely against the frame top. The fix was to glue a piece of wood to the top of the stern post jig. This straightened the string considerably while taking pressure off the frame top. The top edge was notched in order to hold the string on center while tension is applied.
I used tape to hold the string along the top of the gammoning knee.
Snapping the tightened string over the frame established an accurate centerline. The squares could now be moved a wee bit in or out to hold the frame centered and firmly in place.
Mike
-
Chuck got a reaction from Ryland Craze in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
I have to plank everything above the wales because that is not historically accurate at all. But yes I did think about also planking one side in its entirety.
But I may just push forward with the interior work and not do that. There will be so much other stuff to do and if I fully planked one side I may never get done with this model.
Although its going a lot faster than I thought it would. For me anyway as I consider myself a really slow builder/designer.
-
Chuck got a reaction from marsalv in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
I finished the first layer for the wales. Basically I added two more strakes below the first that was added. I show this image because its the first that gives you a good indication of what the hull will eventually look like. This is as low as the planking will reach on the hull. Everything you see below the wales is left unplanked and these frames will remain visible. I do love a fully planked hull though. Its my preference actually. But like everyone else, I would be crazy to cover up all of that hard work with the frames.
I will add two more strakes now above the wales. They are also 7/32" wide. Then it will be time to remove all of the top jigs. Yippeee!!!
Chuck
-
Chuck got a reaction from Ryland Craze in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
Thanks Greg....I am hopeful that with 5 strakes carefully glued to each frame it wont be an issue. But that is good advice.
Chuck
-
Chuck got a reaction from SZKUTNIK in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
The first thing that needs to be done in preparation for planking is to paint the port openings. It is much easier to do so now and those familiar with all of my Syren projects will recognize this step. I am using the same Crimson Acrylic red for this model that I use for all of them.
One note however, rather than just start painting, this model has many laser cut sweep ports. The insides of the sweep ports have laser char on them. You really cant successfully just paint over that. The red wont cover it and will appear too dark. You dont want to sand it off. That would be bad. It would change the precision shape of those port openings.
Instead of sanding, I painted the insides of the sweep ports with a very light tan first. This will cover the char without compromising the shape of the sweep ports. I mixed Titanium White with some brown and yellow Ochre. Once that paint dried I switched to the Crimson.
One additional note....The quarter badge opening and window area was painted tan and will NOT be painted red. This will be left tan as the great cabin will remain unpainted.
Once the painting was complete I taped the two templates into position on both sides of the model.
This is a VERY important step. Just like when using a batten, you must view the hull at all angles. Ensure that the template is even on both sides of the hull. The bottom edge of the templates represent the top edge of the wales. You will be carefully tracing along the bottom edge of each template to mark the location for the first planking strake to be placed on the hull.
Make sure the run is good and at equal height at the bow and stern both port and starboard.
I forgot to mention that you should cut out all of the sweep ports and gunports from the template before taping it on the hull. In addition, cut out the fixed blocks on the templates too. You will be tracing and marking the exact locations for the fixed blocks and the sweep port covers as well as the bottom edge of the templates.
We will be adding the sweep port covers to the hull soon so we can plank around them. The same is true for the fixed block shells.
Use a hard lead pencil so it keeps a sharp point longer. Yes the lead will leave a lighter line but it will be more precise. Use a 4H or even a 6H pencil for marking the hull.
When you are done tracing these elements and the bottom edge of the templates, remove the them carefully. We will be using them again many times. Cut away any tape that hangs over the edges of the template. Dont try and remove it...the template will tear. Then store the templates safely for later use.
Here is what the hull looks like after removing the templates.
You can hopefully see my reference line that shows the top edge of the wales. But its hard to see the sweep port lines in the photo. Thats OK. Just know that they are there. You can see the locations of the fixed blocks.
We will be adding the first strake which represents the first layer for the top of the wales. This is probably the most crucial of planking steps. So take you time with it. If the run and fit for this first plank is wrong then all of your planking will be wrong. It will be hard to recover from that.
The strips are 7/32" x 3/64" Yellow cedar. I have a whole bunch of them ready to go. All have been matched for color. All three strakes for the wales are 7/32" wide. Try really hard to align the top of the strip with your reference line on the hull. Make sure you match the placement port and starboard.
I wont rehash how to plank and how to bend the strips. I have done that so many times. Just refer to the tutorials and many logs on this site. Or download the respective chapters for the Cheerful or the Winchelsea. I am using a travel iron and bending and twisting as usual. The first strake or the upper wales have been completed. At least the first layer. I prefer to use two layers. You could however just use a thicker strip and complete the upper and lower strakes in one layer instead. Its up to you. But I personally prefer two layers because I think I can do a much better and cleaner job with the painting and placement.
With this upper wale in place...now its time to add two more strakes of the same width and thickness below this one. It sounds easy enough, but remember to get a good tight fit against the strakes already on the hull. I am also using a #2 pencil to shade one edge of each strake to simulate the caulking. Although on the upper and lower wales its not important. Its only the first layer. I would however simulate the caulking on the middle layer of the wales because it is only one layer thick. I a referring to the butt joints only.
One last very important note: When gluing these three strakes for the wales onto the hull, make sure you glue the strips to each and every frame. Its the planking that will hold the hull together when we remove the top jigs. So the frames need to be really secure to the planking. Place a drop of glue (your choice of PVA or CA) to each and every frame as you proceed. When we complete two or three strakes above the wales later, thats when we will remove the top jigs and establish the sheer properly. So thats coming up soon. If the planks arent secured to the frames it might be a disaster in the making. But maybe not. I am just a nervous Nelly.
-
Chuck got a reaction from etubino in HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) by Gregory - Corel - Scale 1:50
Most would be very surprised at how thick the whelps actually are......and especially in comparison to the chocks. For the earlier time period 1750's - 1770's as well and on ships other than the largest.....there were usually 5 whelps on the lower and six on the upper capstan. With a very different kind of pawl setup than shown in that plan for Neptune.
-
Chuck got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
I finished the first layer for the wales. Basically I added two more strakes below the first that was added. I show this image because its the first that gives you a good indication of what the hull will eventually look like. This is as low as the planking will reach on the hull. Everything you see below the wales is left unplanked and these frames will remain visible. I do love a fully planked hull though. Its my preference actually. But like everyone else, I would be crazy to cover up all of that hard work with the frames.
I will add two more strakes now above the wales. They are also 7/32" wide. Then it will be time to remove all of the top jigs. Yippeee!!!
Chuck
-
Chuck got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
The first thing that needs to be done in preparation for planking is to paint the port openings. It is much easier to do so now and those familiar with all of my Syren projects will recognize this step. I am using the same Crimson Acrylic red for this model that I use for all of them.
One note however, rather than just start painting, this model has many laser cut sweep ports. The insides of the sweep ports have laser char on them. You really cant successfully just paint over that. The red wont cover it and will appear too dark. You dont want to sand it off. That would be bad. It would change the precision shape of those port openings.
Instead of sanding, I painted the insides of the sweep ports with a very light tan first. This will cover the char without compromising the shape of the sweep ports. I mixed Titanium White with some brown and yellow Ochre. Once that paint dried I switched to the Crimson.
One additional note....The quarter badge opening and window area was painted tan and will NOT be painted red. This will be left tan as the great cabin will remain unpainted.
Once the painting was complete I taped the two templates into position on both sides of the model.
This is a VERY important step. Just like when using a batten, you must view the hull at all angles. Ensure that the template is even on both sides of the hull. The bottom edge of the templates represent the top edge of the wales. You will be carefully tracing along the bottom edge of each template to mark the location for the first planking strake to be placed on the hull.
Make sure the run is good and at equal height at the bow and stern both port and starboard.
I forgot to mention that you should cut out all of the sweep ports and gunports from the template before taping it on the hull. In addition, cut out the fixed blocks on the templates too. You will be tracing and marking the exact locations for the fixed blocks and the sweep port covers as well as the bottom edge of the templates.
We will be adding the sweep port covers to the hull soon so we can plank around them. The same is true for the fixed block shells.
Use a hard lead pencil so it keeps a sharp point longer. Yes the lead will leave a lighter line but it will be more precise. Use a 4H or even a 6H pencil for marking the hull.
When you are done tracing these elements and the bottom edge of the templates, remove the them carefully. We will be using them again many times. Cut away any tape that hangs over the edges of the template. Dont try and remove it...the template will tear. Then store the templates safely for later use.
Here is what the hull looks like after removing the templates.
You can hopefully see my reference line that shows the top edge of the wales. But its hard to see the sweep port lines in the photo. Thats OK. Just know that they are there. You can see the locations of the fixed blocks.
We will be adding the first strake which represents the first layer for the top of the wales. This is probably the most crucial of planking steps. So take you time with it. If the run and fit for this first plank is wrong then all of your planking will be wrong. It will be hard to recover from that.
The strips are 7/32" x 3/64" Yellow cedar. I have a whole bunch of them ready to go. All have been matched for color. All three strakes for the wales are 7/32" wide. Try really hard to align the top of the strip with your reference line on the hull. Make sure you match the placement port and starboard.
I wont rehash how to plank and how to bend the strips. I have done that so many times. Just refer to the tutorials and many logs on this site. Or download the respective chapters for the Cheerful or the Winchelsea. I am using a travel iron and bending and twisting as usual. The first strake or the upper wales have been completed. At least the first layer. I prefer to use two layers. You could however just use a thicker strip and complete the upper and lower strakes in one layer instead. Its up to you. But I personally prefer two layers because I think I can do a much better and cleaner job with the painting and placement.
With this upper wale in place...now its time to add two more strakes of the same width and thickness below this one. It sounds easy enough, but remember to get a good tight fit against the strakes already on the hull. I am also using a #2 pencil to shade one edge of each strake to simulate the caulking. Although on the upper and lower wales its not important. Its only the first layer. I would however simulate the caulking on the middle layer of the wales because it is only one layer thick. I a referring to the butt joints only.
One last very important note: When gluing these three strakes for the wales onto the hull, make sure you glue the strips to each and every frame. Its the planking that will hold the hull together when we remove the top jigs. So the frames need to be really secure to the planking. Place a drop of glue (your choice of PVA or CA) to each and every frame as you proceed. When we complete two or three strakes above the wales later, thats when we will remove the top jigs and establish the sheer properly. So thats coming up soon. If the planks arent secured to the frames it might be a disaster in the making. But maybe not. I am just a nervous Nelly.
-
Chuck got a reaction from ct mike in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
I finished the first layer for the wales. Basically I added two more strakes below the first that was added. I show this image because its the first that gives you a good indication of what the hull will eventually look like. This is as low as the planking will reach on the hull. Everything you see below the wales is left unplanked and these frames will remain visible. I do love a fully planked hull though. Its my preference actually. But like everyone else, I would be crazy to cover up all of that hard work with the frames.
I will add two more strakes now above the wales. They are also 7/32" wide. Then it will be time to remove all of the top jigs. Yippeee!!!
Chuck
-
Chuck got a reaction from ct mike in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
The first thing that needs to be done in preparation for planking is to paint the port openings. It is much easier to do so now and those familiar with all of my Syren projects will recognize this step. I am using the same Crimson Acrylic red for this model that I use for all of them.
One note however, rather than just start painting, this model has many laser cut sweep ports. The insides of the sweep ports have laser char on them. You really cant successfully just paint over that. The red wont cover it and will appear too dark. You dont want to sand it off. That would be bad. It would change the precision shape of those port openings.
Instead of sanding, I painted the insides of the sweep ports with a very light tan first. This will cover the char without compromising the shape of the sweep ports. I mixed Titanium White with some brown and yellow Ochre. Once that paint dried I switched to the Crimson.
One additional note....The quarter badge opening and window area was painted tan and will NOT be painted red. This will be left tan as the great cabin will remain unpainted.
Once the painting was complete I taped the two templates into position on both sides of the model.
This is a VERY important step. Just like when using a batten, you must view the hull at all angles. Ensure that the template is even on both sides of the hull. The bottom edge of the templates represent the top edge of the wales. You will be carefully tracing along the bottom edge of each template to mark the location for the first planking strake to be placed on the hull.
Make sure the run is good and at equal height at the bow and stern both port and starboard.
I forgot to mention that you should cut out all of the sweep ports and gunports from the template before taping it on the hull. In addition, cut out the fixed blocks on the templates too. You will be tracing and marking the exact locations for the fixed blocks and the sweep port covers as well as the bottom edge of the templates.
We will be adding the sweep port covers to the hull soon so we can plank around them. The same is true for the fixed block shells.
Use a hard lead pencil so it keeps a sharp point longer. Yes the lead will leave a lighter line but it will be more precise. Use a 4H or even a 6H pencil for marking the hull.
When you are done tracing these elements and the bottom edge of the templates, remove the them carefully. We will be using them again many times. Cut away any tape that hangs over the edges of the template. Dont try and remove it...the template will tear. Then store the templates safely for later use.
Here is what the hull looks like after removing the templates.
You can hopefully see my reference line that shows the top edge of the wales. But its hard to see the sweep port lines in the photo. Thats OK. Just know that they are there. You can see the locations of the fixed blocks.
We will be adding the first strake which represents the first layer for the top of the wales. This is probably the most crucial of planking steps. So take you time with it. If the run and fit for this first plank is wrong then all of your planking will be wrong. It will be hard to recover from that.
The strips are 7/32" x 3/64" Yellow cedar. I have a whole bunch of them ready to go. All have been matched for color. All three strakes for the wales are 7/32" wide. Try really hard to align the top of the strip with your reference line on the hull. Make sure you match the placement port and starboard.
I wont rehash how to plank and how to bend the strips. I have done that so many times. Just refer to the tutorials and many logs on this site. Or download the respective chapters for the Cheerful or the Winchelsea. I am using a travel iron and bending and twisting as usual. The first strake or the upper wales have been completed. At least the first layer. I prefer to use two layers. You could however just use a thicker strip and complete the upper and lower strakes in one layer instead. Its up to you. But I personally prefer two layers because I think I can do a much better and cleaner job with the painting and placement.
With this upper wale in place...now its time to add two more strakes of the same width and thickness below this one. It sounds easy enough, but remember to get a good tight fit against the strakes already on the hull. I am also using a #2 pencil to shade one edge of each strake to simulate the caulking. Although on the upper and lower wales its not important. Its only the first layer. I would however simulate the caulking on the middle layer of the wales because it is only one layer thick. I a referring to the butt joints only.
One last very important note: When gluing these three strakes for the wales onto the hull, make sure you glue the strips to each and every frame. Its the planking that will hold the hull together when we remove the top jigs. So the frames need to be really secure to the planking. Place a drop of glue (your choice of PVA or CA) to each and every frame as you proceed. When we complete two or three strakes above the wales later, thats when we will remove the top jigs and establish the sheer properly. So thats coming up soon. If the planks arent secured to the frames it might be a disaster in the making. But maybe not. I am just a nervous Nelly.
-
Chuck got a reaction from Edwardkenway in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
I finished the first layer for the wales. Basically I added two more strakes below the first that was added. I show this image because its the first that gives you a good indication of what the hull will eventually look like. This is as low as the planking will reach on the hull. Everything you see below the wales is left unplanked and these frames will remain visible. I do love a fully planked hull though. Its my preference actually. But like everyone else, I would be crazy to cover up all of that hard work with the frames.
I will add two more strakes now above the wales. They are also 7/32" wide. Then it will be time to remove all of the top jigs. Yippeee!!!
Chuck
-
Chuck got a reaction from Ryland Craze in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
I finished the first layer for the wales. Basically I added two more strakes below the first that was added. I show this image because its the first that gives you a good indication of what the hull will eventually look like. This is as low as the planking will reach on the hull. Everything you see below the wales is left unplanked and these frames will remain visible. I do love a fully planked hull though. Its my preference actually. But like everyone else, I would be crazy to cover up all of that hard work with the frames.
I will add two more strakes now above the wales. They are also 7/32" wide. Then it will be time to remove all of the top jigs. Yippeee!!!
Chuck
-
Chuck got a reaction from Edwardkenway in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build
The first thing that needs to be done in preparation for planking is to paint the port openings. It is much easier to do so now and those familiar with all of my Syren projects will recognize this step. I am using the same Crimson Acrylic red for this model that I use for all of them.
One note however, rather than just start painting, this model has many laser cut sweep ports. The insides of the sweep ports have laser char on them. You really cant successfully just paint over that. The red wont cover it and will appear too dark. You dont want to sand it off. That would be bad. It would change the precision shape of those port openings.
Instead of sanding, I painted the insides of the sweep ports with a very light tan first. This will cover the char without compromising the shape of the sweep ports. I mixed Titanium White with some brown and yellow Ochre. Once that paint dried I switched to the Crimson.
One additional note....The quarter badge opening and window area was painted tan and will NOT be painted red. This will be left tan as the great cabin will remain unpainted.
Once the painting was complete I taped the two templates into position on both sides of the model.
This is a VERY important step. Just like when using a batten, you must view the hull at all angles. Ensure that the template is even on both sides of the hull. The bottom edge of the templates represent the top edge of the wales. You will be carefully tracing along the bottom edge of each template to mark the location for the first planking strake to be placed on the hull.
Make sure the run is good and at equal height at the bow and stern both port and starboard.
I forgot to mention that you should cut out all of the sweep ports and gunports from the template before taping it on the hull. In addition, cut out the fixed blocks on the templates too. You will be tracing and marking the exact locations for the fixed blocks and the sweep port covers as well as the bottom edge of the templates.
We will be adding the sweep port covers to the hull soon so we can plank around them. The same is true for the fixed block shells.
Use a hard lead pencil so it keeps a sharp point longer. Yes the lead will leave a lighter line but it will be more precise. Use a 4H or even a 6H pencil for marking the hull.
When you are done tracing these elements and the bottom edge of the templates, remove the them carefully. We will be using them again many times. Cut away any tape that hangs over the edges of the template. Dont try and remove it...the template will tear. Then store the templates safely for later use.
Here is what the hull looks like after removing the templates.
You can hopefully see my reference line that shows the top edge of the wales. But its hard to see the sweep port lines in the photo. Thats OK. Just know that they are there. You can see the locations of the fixed blocks.
We will be adding the first strake which represents the first layer for the top of the wales. This is probably the most crucial of planking steps. So take you time with it. If the run and fit for this first plank is wrong then all of your planking will be wrong. It will be hard to recover from that.
The strips are 7/32" x 3/64" Yellow cedar. I have a whole bunch of them ready to go. All have been matched for color. All three strakes for the wales are 7/32" wide. Try really hard to align the top of the strip with your reference line on the hull. Make sure you match the placement port and starboard.
I wont rehash how to plank and how to bend the strips. I have done that so many times. Just refer to the tutorials and many logs on this site. Or download the respective chapters for the Cheerful or the Winchelsea. I am using a travel iron and bending and twisting as usual. The first strake or the upper wales have been completed. At least the first layer. I prefer to use two layers. You could however just use a thicker strip and complete the upper and lower strakes in one layer instead. Its up to you. But I personally prefer two layers because I think I can do a much better and cleaner job with the painting and placement.
With this upper wale in place...now its time to add two more strakes of the same width and thickness below this one. It sounds easy enough, but remember to get a good tight fit against the strakes already on the hull. I am also using a #2 pencil to shade one edge of each strake to simulate the caulking. Although on the upper and lower wales its not important. Its only the first layer. I would however simulate the caulking on the middle layer of the wales because it is only one layer thick. I a referring to the butt joints only.
One last very important note: When gluing these three strakes for the wales onto the hull, make sure you glue the strips to each and every frame. Its the planking that will hold the hull together when we remove the top jigs. So the frames need to be really secure to the planking. Place a drop of glue (your choice of PVA or CA) to each and every frame as you proceed. When we complete two or three strakes above the wales later, thats when we will remove the top jigs and establish the sheer properly. So thats coming up soon. If the planks arent secured to the frames it might be a disaster in the making. But maybe not. I am just a nervous Nelly.
-
Chuck got a reaction from Obormotov in Help for the Noobies
One thing I meant to reply to as well. And dont take this personally. But your are not submitting a REQUEST as if this site is some sort of paid hotline or workshop. That is also a mindset that should never be taken.
Again, this is an unpaid community of like minded model builders. They are not a customer service department. If some are treating MSW like a personal customer service hotline that wont help to make any friends.
Engaging and developing friendships is the way to go. Only creating “requests” for yourself or thinking about them as requests is also part of the issue. I am speaking from experience here as a person who loves to help but with the dozens of “requests” from folks it sometimes feels a bit one sided. Especially when at times, and more often than you might expect, you dont even get a thank you in return. You never hear back from some of these guys. Thats why its easier to spread a little love with your requests.
Not speaking about you at all but just making a personal observation based on actual experience here. I am just letting other members know in order to help them if they are indeed in the same situation.
Try to engage and give a little as well to the folks you are making requests with. It makes it easier for some to not feel like the “volunteer ship model request hotline”.
Once again I would ask yourself (and all members reading this). Those 210 build logs you mentioned....how many of them did you post words of encouragement in? How many of them did you hit the like
button for? I encourage you and all others to do the best you can to engage and answer in these 210 logs regardless of your level of expertise. Rather than just hope others will do so in your own logs.
Just think about that for a second.
Mean no offense by this but you guys know how important this topic is to me. The “2 build log challenge”. And if you dont know what the "2 build log" challenge is then you probably havent ventured outside of your own build log bubble that much.
For the best experience in any community....mingle a little bit. Its so much harder to be asked to dance when you are a wallflower.
-
Chuck got a reaction from Obormotov in Help for the Noobies
Very true, but you also post words of encouragement and just friendly comments about other folks progress as well.
That is the key!!! And the point I was trying to emphasize. The easiest way to get feedback and engagement is to get out of the “bubble” of your own build logs and topics. Show an interest in others and others will show an interest in you. Its pretty simple really.
I can not emphasize it enough.🥰 My mamma always said....show a little love and you will get a little love. Show a lotta love and....
-
Chuck got a reaction from Obormotov in Help for the Noobies
That is a tough call. If you dont get a response in your build log you may want
to reach out to some folks by PM and and ask them. This is something we have been trying to improve but you must understand that with so many build logs.
Best to just ask one question at a time and not write really long posts. Posing short questions are more likely to get a response
For me I know its tough to read every build log.
Probably the most important thing is to mingle and also read, post and participate in the logs of others beyond just your own. Folks are more likely to take an interest in you and reach out if you do the same. A quick look at your history reveals that you only post in your own topics and never in those for others.
This is a huge part of the issue. I am sure it would be easier to get a response if you pose the question or have participated in the logs of others. Especially those that are building the same kit or similar. This is is best way to create a mentoring cross exchange of ideas.
its not a one way street on any forum where one should expect members to flock to them without ever having taken the time to do the same on other members projects and topics. As if it was a paid class or workshop. This is just a community of mode builders where folks are having fun and making friends. No paid teachers here.
I hope this helps....If a member wont reach out to others they can hardly expect to get any traction and there is nothing any staff member can do to fix that!
So please try to participate in the logs and topics that are not your own as well. Even if its to just say that others are doing a good job. Probably the best advice I can give you. That effort will pay off in multiples.
These are just a few things I can suggest to you. Ask yourself when was the last time you posted and took an interest in other projects outside of your own. Just to say good work or ask how they are doing? We dont have paid mentors and those folks are very busy. They have a many opportunities to help others but are most likely choosing to spend their time in logs where those folks also have shown an interest in their work.
Chuck
-
Chuck got a reaction from Obormotov in Starting a retrospective build log
Actually no in progress photos are allowed in the gallery at all. Just those of the finished model. But yes you can also create a build log that contains all of those in progress images. Just not in the gallery. Only photos of the completed model. Otherwise we usually get members who spam us to death in the gallery with a double whammy of hundreds of in progress build photos. Usually to bump their albums to the front page every other day. So just photos of the completed model in the gallery please.