Baker

10 hours ago, tartane said:

Usually the capstan  (spil) was set up in front of the mainmast and then in that case  it could be set up on the axis of the ship. In this way he could hoist the lower beam of the mainmast (the line then went along the foot of the mainmast via a bitt placed diagonally behind the mast). The lower beam of the jib mast could also be lifted from the capstan (also via a bitt, but behind the foot of the jib mast). And the anchors could also be retrieved by the capstan. A capstan was the only very strong power source on a ship and was used for everything (hoisting cannons, sloops, cargo) and was on large ships indispensable. Small ships used a windlass.

Constant

 

As this pdf is copyrighted but available for around £47... through the Mary Rose trust, it is not shown or attached here

16 hours ago, tartane said:

The head seams of the planks should probably end on the underlying beams. Otherwise you can't nail it 

Indeed, the underlying axis distance between large and small beams is approximately 1cm on this scale

Therefore, the distances between the seams, measured from the dale, are always with one centimetre in between.

This is almost the only constant in this planking

And the Anchor cable wil not toutch the main mast 

btw,

There are anchors on starboard and port side.

if I place the capstan off center then i can only operate the anchors on one side

4 hours ago, dafi said:

Also here a modern model I photographed in an exhibition in Rochefort in 2018. Unfortunately I can´t read the name of the maker any more.

after a long journey on google 🤣

Small update 

Planking upper deck "work in progress" .

Kevels made from "wasknijpers" (Dutch)

well found and very realistic 

Looks very good 👍

Beautiful model, and i learned a lot 👍

Indeed, this is something different from nice straight planks.

Special, but time consuming 

Construction of the knight for the main yard.

It appears that i placed the main mast too far back.

Corrected position.

Knigt and the base plates for the upper deck placed. With the layout roughly sketched.

And start planking.

First the piece that is still left, then the remaining part (a puzzle...)

22 hours ago, mrcc said:

I am very unsure of the painting scheme at the stern as all sorts of different options on Google images.

https://www.modelbouwforum.nl/threads/de-friesland-van-mamoli.273466/page-12

Dutch buildlog

That's not so good.

I wish you strength in this difficult time

Groetjes Patrick 

Congrats,   great work 👍

11 hours ago, Louie da fly said:

with a knight between the two.

Thanks Steven,

This capstan also served to raise the anchors and is therefore placed on the upper deck.

On the upper deck of the rear castle there is a winch for operating the mizzen sail.

But, I completely forgot about the knight For the main sail.

Thanks for bringing this up.

Small update on the upper deck layout.

During a week of vacation I asked and received information from the Mary Rose museum. Was there a capstan, and if so where?
Answer.
There is no real evidence that there was one, but also no evidence that there wasn't one. And the most logical place is behind the main mast.

Also received a pdf "Cabels and Cablets of the Mary Rose" which contains a lot of information about the layout of the upper deck and the anchor cables.

This results in the following setup (not a technical masterpiece as it is sketched on a beach chair, but reasonably clear).

Start upper deck.

Indeed,  looks also nice to me. 

Beautiful work

Great little scuppers 😉.

And barrels for desalting meat or fish.

Sorry for the loss of your friend. 

I would go for what you see on the paintings from that time.

Replicas do sometimes have a "bug" here and there (the Utrecht probly not 😇).

A great model build by one of the members from our model club.

https://www.modelbouwclubdedissel.be/blog/galerij-1/statenjacht-de-utrecht-6

Much better. 

Regards,

Dam you Baker 🤣

For the preparation of the upper deck, I have been in contact with the Mary Rose organization this week.
It appears that the anchors had just been lifted. As a result, they were still busy storing the anchor cables, so that they were still partly on the upper deck.

So they went to battle in a rather hasty and disorganized way, it seems.
In an area with little room to maneuver.
An overloaded ship.
etcetera...

And,
again, great study on the hull shape

Did it this way at first. And got the comment that this was not correct.

Reason, if the rope breaks the whole sail falls down.

Then switched to this method (post 634)

without obligation of course 😉