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  1. 1 hour ago, tartane said:

    Patric,

    To find out as much as possible, I think you have to divide the images that exist into two categories.

    The first is the collection of images depicting the ships actually sailing around, i.e. in the 16th century.

    The second is the collection of images that were made after the ships disappeared. So those drawings are based on the drawings that were already there and if they were not right, the imagination went further and further.

    So you shouldn't take that second category seriously

     

    I have experienced this clearly in my long-term research on the chebec, a Latin-rigged ship that sailed in the Mediterranean from about the year 1700 to about 1840. The drawings that were made at that time were very correct, and were made by a few draughtsmen who had also sailed on them.  But after 1840 there are fanciful depictions of painters who were not familiar with these ships but who sketched a romantic and very exaggerated picture from the existing drawings. This was the reason why models of these ships were suddenly made long after 1840, which also ended up in the maritime museum in Paris. Those models were wrong and can still be seen there. There are curious flaws in it. Unfortunately, manufacturers of construction kits then started measuring those models, so that there are now construction kits on the market that give a completely wrong picture of those ships.  There are a lot of things wrong and I never understand why the builders themselves don't see this.

    This also came up again and again in my research into the cog.

     

    If you wish, I would like to help you in this search. I admire your work in details.

     

    Constant

    Thanks. All help is welcome. 

     

    Remember the cardboard setup is just a test for the  moment.

    Indeed. Building my previous model, i discovered that a lot of info and paintings are incorrect.

     

     

  2. 17 hours ago, Stevinne said:

    I remember reading somewhere, maybe in response to questions on a Facebook post by the MR museum, that there are currently no plans to uncover and raise more of the remaining parts of the ship. I think the last thing they raised was what remained of the stem post, but that was decades ago. It is a shame, since it might settle the debates about what the ship looked like in the end once and for all.

    The last piece raised was indeed the remaines  of the stempost.

    The MR museum website has a contact page.

    You can ask all what you want to know,  they don't answer....

  3. The whole idea of building the castle in cardboard first is to see if this setup is realistic.

    Taking into account the tactics at the time (boarding), this high structure is logical.
    And the aft and fore castle are of a lighter construction than the hull, so the center of gravity remains good

    The first intention is to determine where the fore castle starts. Let's say the foundation of the castle.
    Otherwise I cannot continue with further construction of the front hull.

  4. Back to Mary.

     

    The fore castle.

    How do you start building something that doesn't have a clear example of it?

    First I enlarge the drawing from the books from 1/100th to 1/50th. This drawing is placed on the model at approximately the "correct" position.

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    About the right height compared with the deck of the rear castle
    And the base starts at about the right distance from cannon port M3

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    And then we continue building in cardboard

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    There's a cardboard front castle, with a happy assistant on the top deck.

    Of course I don't know if this form is correct. But the idea is to roughly recreate the ship on the cover of the book.

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  5. 1 hour ago, Louie da fly said:

    That's interesting - the goedendag is mentioned as being one of the most common weapons of the victorious Flemish army at the Battle of Courtrai (also known as the battle of the Golden Spurs because of the huge number of golden spurs looted from dead French knights), but a wooden chest commemorating the battle shows them like this:

     

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    And remnants have been found of the real thing: https://www.military-history.org/feature/medieval/the-goedendag-medieval-weaponry.htm

     

    Of course Flemish re-enactors have adopted this nasty thing (though only for display purposes - much too nasty to really fight with)

     

     

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    Steven

    The Flemish army in 1302 consisted largely of volunteers from various Flemish cities.
    Most members had to pay for their own weaponry. The most price-conscious item is a large piece of iron on a sturdy wooden stick.
    The iron can have all the shapes of a thick pin, Into a ball full of small iron pins, whether or not attached to the wooden stick via a chain.


    The intention is simple:
    Get as close to the opponent as possible, give him a good whack and say hello (while staying safely away from his weapons...)

     

    In our modern times:
    try to shoot at the opponent without getting shot yourself. 

    Difference??? It is as dangerous as it was 700 years ago..

  6. 17 hours ago, Louie da fly said:

    think being hit by one of these would certainly discombobulate you . . .

    In Flanders we call something like this "goedendag" or  "good day" ... bang... 

     

    15 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

    That  has really surprised  me  with  the  rear  outer upper  planks  being fitted  in a  Featheredge  way  by over lapping.

     

    OC.

    Me too ;) 

     

    The cannon deck has been cleaned up a bit.

    Not as it once was, but a bit cleaner if someone later looked in through any openings.

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    Before I can continue, I first have to determine the base of the fore castle.
    So first now thinking, searching, testing and try out 

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  7. 57 minutes ago, Darius359au said:

    There are a few photo's of  koniegstiger's in berlin but they are Schwere SS-Panzer-Abteilung 503  ,so im thinking they've been confused with the heer Schwere Panzer-Abteilung 503 there's no real clear images of the camouflage they had though  https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/tanks-2-3/tiger2/kingtiger-somewhere-in-berlin-april-1945/

    https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/tanks-2-3/tiger2/tiger-2-tank-6/

     

    Richard

    There were indeed Tiger 2  tanks in Berlin.

    Unit? 

  8. 5 hours ago, Haliburton said:

    Very interesting Brad, I googled to see what I could find and I did find some YouTube videos that purport to show ft-17s the Germans left on the coast.  There were other images of the the turrets having been incorporated by the Germans into the Atlantic wall 

    Old tank turrets used on bunkers

     

    https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=14464

     

     

  9. 10 hours ago, Baker said:

    Brother Baker is little bit late, i think 🫣.

    But is now following. 

    Breakfast with Tigers... ;)

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    Schwere Panzer-Abteilung 503 received their first Tigers 2 mid-44. With textbook camouflage scheme and standard numbering.
    At the end of September 44 they received 45 new Tigers 2 and were transferred to Hungary.
    In the early 1945's the name was changed to sPzAbt.Feldhernhalle.
    This unit was totally destroyed in Budapest. So Berlin 45... very unlikely

     

    The 9 or 18 tooth sprocket.

    You have the 18 tooth sprocket, this is the first (early) model of the sprocket.
    Definitely build a mid 44 model (your camo is already good) Everything built later had 9 teeth and the simplified tracks.

     

     

     

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