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Brucealanevans got a reaction from schooner in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
On to the whaleboats.
Each is made up of 7 lifts glued together and then carved/sanded to profile.
I glued all seven sets, and set to work on the boats that will be the spares stored upside down on the boat bearer/shelter of the Morgan.
My references suggest that these were primed only, to be painted when needed to replace a lost boat.
Below are the two boats, one with only the fore and aft profile sanded and the other (exterior shaping) complete. About 3 hours work to turn the left hand example into the right hand result.
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from schooner in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
I decided to move ahead with one whaleboat, just to figure out how to approach the construction, what tools and wood to use, etc.
I have finished one to the primer stage shown below, but now have decided to get them all to this stage before doing the detailing.
It's a lot of work, and I suspect doing another four will take me some time as I only spend a few hours 4-5 days a week working in the shipyard, and we've been doing a fair amount of traveling.
I did have my first opportunity to fire up my new Byrnes thickness sander to create some 1/64 thickness sheet for these.
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from tarbrush in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
I decided to move ahead with one whaleboat, just to figure out how to approach the construction, what tools and wood to use, etc.
I have finished one to the primer stage shown below, but now have decided to get them all to this stage before doing the detailing.
It's a lot of work, and I suspect doing another four will take me some time as I only spend a few hours 4-5 days a week working in the shipyard, and we've been doing a fair amount of traveling.
I did have my first opportunity to fire up my new Byrnes thickness sander to create some 1/64 thickness sheet for these.
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from IgorSky in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
I decided to move ahead with one whaleboat, just to figure out how to approach the construction, what tools and wood to use, etc.
I have finished one to the primer stage shown below, but now have decided to get them all to this stage before doing the detailing.
It's a lot of work, and I suspect doing another four will take me some time as I only spend a few hours 4-5 days a week working in the shipyard, and we've been doing a fair amount of traveling.
I did have my first opportunity to fire up my new Byrnes thickness sander to create some 1/64 thickness sheet for these.
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from mtaylor in USS Kearsarge BlueJacket Shipcrafters Kit
Ships in Scale is currently running a series of a twin build of the Bluejacket Kearsarge and Alabama
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from mtaylor in Easiest to plank
The whaleboat, which I have built, is the easiest to plank because the planks are pre-cut, and as long as you keep the order and the fore-aft orientation straight, you can't go wrong.
Having said that the model itself is not a "beginner". You construct an inverted form with "bulkheads" and build the model over that. The planks themselves are a combination of clinker (overriding the adjacent plank with some angled edge sanding to get the proper orientation) and edge to edge supported by an underlying batten. The ribs themselves are added after removal from the form, so it's not a "framed" build.The planks are glued to each other and, for the edge to edge planks to the underlying batten and not to the "bulkheads". Excess glue and especially glue that gets between the planks and the form "bulkheads" can make the removal process "exciting".
Although not a "beginner" it was the first ship I built, although with more experience now I know I would have done a better job if I were to build it today.
The included book is great and all the resource you need.
Good luck.
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from MikeB4 in Easiest to plank
The whaleboat, which I have built, is the easiest to plank because the planks are pre-cut, and as long as you keep the order and the fore-aft orientation straight, you can't go wrong.
Having said that the model itself is not a "beginner". You construct an inverted form with "bulkheads" and build the model over that. The planks themselves are a combination of clinker (overriding the adjacent plank with some angled edge sanding to get the proper orientation) and edge to edge supported by an underlying batten. The ribs themselves are added after removal from the form, so it's not a "framed" build.The planks are glued to each other and, for the edge to edge planks to the underlying batten and not to the "bulkheads". Excess glue and especially glue that gets between the planks and the form "bulkheads" can make the removal process "exciting".
Although not a "beginner" it was the first ship I built, although with more experience now I know I would have done a better job if I were to build it today.
The included book is great and all the resource you need.
Good luck.
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from tarbrush in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
On to the whaleboats.
Each is made up of 7 lifts glued together and then carved/sanded to profile.
I glued all seven sets, and set to work on the boats that will be the spares stored upside down on the boat bearer/shelter of the Morgan.
My references suggest that these were primed only, to be painted when needed to replace a lost boat.
Below are the two boats, one with only the fore and aft profile sanded and the other (exterior shaping) complete. About 3 hours work to turn the left hand example into the right hand result.
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from IgorSky in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
On to the whaleboats.
Each is made up of 7 lifts glued together and then carved/sanded to profile.
I glued all seven sets, and set to work on the boats that will be the spares stored upside down on the boat bearer/shelter of the Morgan.
My references suggest that these were primed only, to be painted when needed to replace a lost boat.
Below are the two boats, one with only the fore and aft profile sanded and the other (exterior shaping) complete. About 3 hours work to turn the left hand example into the right hand result.
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from schooner in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
I haven't posted progress because the foremast was just duplication of the mainmast yards, and I also took a week or so away to recharge. Having said that, I must be learning something from this process since the foremast went easier (altho the belay points were also more accessible, which helped.
Certainly doing the Morgan for my first truly rigged ship turned out to be a real challenge. Some bits don't bear real close inspection, some lines had to be spiced, etc. etc.
At any rate, the running rigging is now done except for the braces and placing rope coils. I expect that to take me a week or perhaps two. Then the Morgan goes into it's case in the living room while I build the whaleboats. Unless I add the cutting stage first.
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from hexnut in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
On to the whaleboats.
Each is made up of 7 lifts glued together and then carved/sanded to profile.
I glued all seven sets, and set to work on the boats that will be the spares stored upside down on the boat bearer/shelter of the Morgan.
My references suggest that these were primed only, to be painted when needed to replace a lost boat.
Below are the two boats, one with only the fore and aft profile sanded and the other (exterior shaping) complete. About 3 hours work to turn the left hand example into the right hand result.
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from mtaylor in Whaleboat equipment question
Thank you.
This makes great sense to me and mirrors what I originally thought about the iron goods and rust. The line tub weight is an excellent point. I have read both Moby Dick and Heart of the Sea and your post has tickled my memory about bringing goods to the boats prior to launching.
I appreciate the reply.
Bruce
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from schooner in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Finished the cutting in stage today.
The Morgan (ship) is done.
I'll put it somewhere safe and begin working on the whaleboats. Since I've been ignoring other projects and interests to push to get to this stage, I'm going to limit myself to mornings in the shipyard till the whaleboats are done and mounted.
Here's the cutting in stage:
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Brucealanevans reacted to roach101761 in Whaleboat equipment question
What equipment stayed in the boats when stored and lashed on the davits?
Not the line tub or not the two line tubs when the center board was introduced to the American Whale Boat. It/they weighed too much to be left in the floor of the boat with only 1/2 inch cedar planks. Also fixing the line in the boat was done prior to lowering the boat. For this reason the harpoons were placed in the boat prior to launching. I also believe that every thing that may have been a manufactured good was left out of the boat while stowed. Things like the lance, hatchet, boat compass, provisions and the like. Leaving such things in the boat left it exposed to the elements and potential loss. Chasing the whale did not happen instantaneously. There was time to make sure all proper equipment was on board. I agree that mast, sail, rigging, paddles, oars rudder, bailer, drogue and anything made of wood or line may have been kept in the boat. Iron and steel gets rusty and looses its edge when exposed to salt air. You can not attach the two irons to the line until the line is in the boat so why keep them there?
My sources are Moby Dick, In The Heart of the Sea By Nathaniel Philbrick, Whale Ships and Whaling by Albert Cook Church
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from Landlocked123 in Whaleboat equipment question
Thanks to all, especially for the pictures.
I have previously built the MS New Bedford Whaleboat so I know the equipment - just not certain how much to add to the 5 inch long whaleboats of the Morgan's davits. I like the look of the Lagoda model whaleboat contents and will try my best to duplicate that in this scale - mast/sail, oars, paddles, line tubs with canvas cover, rudder in stored position, and probably the line up front that the harpoons were connected to.
Bruce
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from CaptainSteve in Whaleboat equipment question
Thanks to all, especially for the pictures.
I have previously built the MS New Bedford Whaleboat so I know the equipment - just not certain how much to add to the 5 inch long whaleboats of the Morgan's davits. I like the look of the Lagoda model whaleboat contents and will try my best to duplicate that in this scale - mast/sail, oars, paddles, line tubs with canvas cover, rudder in stored position, and probably the line up front that the harpoons were connected to.
Bruce
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from mtaylor in Whaleboat equipment question
Thanks to all, especially for the pictures.
I have previously built the MS New Bedford Whaleboat so I know the equipment - just not certain how much to add to the 5 inch long whaleboats of the Morgan's davits. I like the look of the Lagoda model whaleboat contents and will try my best to duplicate that in this scale - mast/sail, oars, paddles, line tubs with canvas cover, rudder in stored position, and probably the line up front that the harpoons were connected to.
Bruce
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from CaptainSteve in Whaleboat equipment question
As I work on the whaleboats for my Charles W Morgan build a question has come up I cannot find an answer for in my scanty references.
What equipment stayed in the boats when stored and lashed on the davits? At least the furled sail and mast I suspect and probably the oars lashed down. What about the line tubs with their canvas covers?
What was brought on only when preparing to launch? Implements (harpoons, lances and so on), water cask, etc.?
I'm not at all sure that having the stored boats "fully equipped " is realistic unless immediately ready to launch.
Anyone have references?
Bruce
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from Jack12477 in Whaleboat equipment question
As I work on the whaleboats for my Charles W Morgan build a question has come up I cannot find an answer for in my scanty references.
What equipment stayed in the boats when stored and lashed on the davits? At least the furled sail and mast I suspect and probably the oars lashed down. What about the line tubs with their canvas covers?
What was brought on only when preparing to launch? Implements (harpoons, lances and so on), water cask, etc.?
I'm not at all sure that having the stored boats "fully equipped " is realistic unless immediately ready to launch.
Anyone have references?
Bruce
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from ccoyle in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Finished the cutting in stage today.
The Morgan (ship) is done.
I'll put it somewhere safe and begin working on the whaleboats. Since I've been ignoring other projects and interests to push to get to this stage, I'm going to limit myself to mornings in the shipyard till the whaleboats are done and mounted.
Here's the cutting in stage:
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from IgorSky in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Running rigging is now done.
New candidate for repetitive mindless job of the month: making dozens of rope coils for the belay point (last picture).
The rest are views of the essentially complete Morgan with coils for the spider bands and mainmast pinrail yet to be placed. I was hoping to be completely done (except the 7 whaleboats) before I leave the country for a week, but the coils took longer than expected and I won't have time to do the cutting-in stage and the paint touch ups here and there that it needs.
Only a day or two work remaining.
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from Canute in Whaleboat equipment question
As I work on the whaleboats for my Charles W Morgan build a question has come up I cannot find an answer for in my scanty references.
What equipment stayed in the boats when stored and lashed on the davits? At least the furled sail and mast I suspect and probably the oars lashed down. What about the line tubs with their canvas covers?
What was brought on only when preparing to launch? Implements (harpoons, lances and so on), water cask, etc.?
I'm not at all sure that having the stored boats "fully equipped " is realistic unless immediately ready to launch.
Anyone have references?
Bruce
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from mtaylor in Whaleboat equipment question
As I work on the whaleboats for my Charles W Morgan build a question has come up I cannot find an answer for in my scanty references.
What equipment stayed in the boats when stored and lashed on the davits? At least the furled sail and mast I suspect and probably the oars lashed down. What about the line tubs with their canvas covers?
What was brought on only when preparing to launch? Implements (harpoons, lances and so on), water cask, etc.?
I'm not at all sure that having the stored boats "fully equipped " is realistic unless immediately ready to launch.
Anyone have references?
Bruce
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from John Allen in Whaleboat equipment question
As I work on the whaleboats for my Charles W Morgan build a question has come up I cannot find an answer for in my scanty references.
What equipment stayed in the boats when stored and lashed on the davits? At least the furled sail and mast I suspect and probably the oars lashed down. What about the line tubs with their canvas covers?
What was brought on only when preparing to launch? Implements (harpoons, lances and so on), water cask, etc.?
I'm not at all sure that having the stored boats "fully equipped " is realistic unless immediately ready to launch.
Anyone have references?
Bruce
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Brucealanevans got a reaction from tarbrush in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Finished the cutting in stage today.
The Morgan (ship) is done.
I'll put it somewhere safe and begin working on the whaleboats. Since I've been ignoring other projects and interests to push to get to this stage, I'm going to limit myself to mornings in the shipyard till the whaleboats are done and mounted.
Here's the cutting in stage:
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