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NIc... .I found a painting, (Print) of the Red Jacket at a local consignment store. However, its depiction didn't show Chief Red Jacket as the figurehead, and it only flew a royal on all masts with no *Upper topsail*….just the main course, topsail, topgallant, and royal. Only four sails per mast. Question: Did the Red Jacket ever get refitted with Howes rig and fixed with a *Lower topsail* during her history? Was she ever *Originally* fitted out with only 4 sails per mast? Rob(Or is the artist simply in error?)
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Pat...it will be higher. I'm currently building a pedestal that will raise it just over 8". I'm just fenagling with all the level issues that are associated with the built in. Once I correct all that, I will paint it an antique metallic color. I'll then post some pics. I figure, once the case is acceptable, then, I'll return to finishing up the model, with addition of the starboard shrouds. I'll be using those small round LED lights that you press the lens to activate...for the lighting. With them aiming down into the case. They illuminate quite well. Rob
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I haven't worked on the case for a while(so much family stuff going on), but I think I will build a short base to elevate it up about 7", just under the bottom edge of the stove mantle. I'll relocate some pics. Here it is simply sitting where it will be...next to the shelves in a seldom used corner of the library. The stove does not blow heat on the case...it's a relatively cool location out of the way. Rob
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Oh....on the Red Jacket the sling went through the tops and over the mast cap, or through the tops and around the main mast doubling instead of bolted to the mast between the mast cheeks? Interesting. I knew many designs were incorporated, but not so sure they were incorporated on clippers. Great job. Rob
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Super job...love it all coming together. Do you have a chain sling under the *hounds* fixed to the yard? Those little boogers can be quite a handful to get just right so the yard is parallel to the deck and the truss is perpendicular to the mast. Love it.....looks so clean. Rob
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How we coming along Nic.....haven't seen any new posts? You must have some yards mounted. Rob
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Yes.....I agree with both of you. I suspected it was going to take up loads of room...but when I placed it in the actual space it would occupy..... It gobbled up the space. and then just cramped the area, resulting in a complete imbalance of the room. It's not just about displaying the model, but creating a well balanced room. the place I ended up compromising.... does place the display off to the side a bit but, it doesn't overpower the space...distracting from all the other viewable items in the library. Rob
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Over the last couple of days...I've had to make some considerable changes to my case plans and its location in the Library. The primary location, was to be in front of the large picture window...this devolved drastically, because the actual size of the case required that I needed to remove an entire couch from the Library(That, in of itself, was not a bad thing...but)….it left a significant unused space that looked awkward and threw off the balance of the room. I also was becoming worried about the UV issues. I then tried to place the case in the middle of the space...permitting room to view from all sides, but this proved just as awkward.... since the case is very tall it blocked clean, clear views across the space, in essence, forming a block to the flow of the room. I opted to remove the case from its 3 legged pedestal and I placed it on a short built-in to the left of the fireplace. There, it is out of the egress path within the library, as well as the room is more open and its layout flows much better. You can access the books on both the North and East walls easily as well. It is a compromise, but the space flows much better and it still serves primarily as a library.....so that is my first goal. The case is a bit lower then I would have liked, but the wall will not be totally blocked, so I can continue to display the items already mounted there. I'll post an image later. Rob
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My case is built almost like the latter one you build...wonderful work. Only real difference, is mine is made from dark maple... Rob
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From what I gather from my own research...is that if the lower main mast was of a composite construction...it would have been treated with varnish or painted white. Painting at the doubling or at the topmast and yards(in some cases) was also varnished. But black paint was cheaper to make and was also a good preservative. Some varnishes didn't hold up as well as black paint. I'm speaking from a non military perspective, Military vessels had historical and traditional guidelines...but I can assume...the same situations applied. As vessels progressed the iron mast and yards were painted white as well. Sometimes certain colors were the privee' of the owner or captain. I'm sure there are a number of other reasons. Rob
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Bob.... can you take an image of that hallway case so I can see your work? Rob
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Bob...what a wonderful explanation of your experience building your case. Actually I had the glass cut afterwords, but my measurements were accurate....and I had the glassier read back to me the measurements. I insisted on accuracy. I used flexible silicone on all the edge and bottom joints. The top merely sits on the glass with them resting within their grooves. I will(when the silicone is dry), remove the top, place the model and slide in the right side, then replace the top frame and then the glass. Once assembled I will then screw into each corner from atop, small brass wood screws to secure it. Here is a pic of the glass in place. Rob
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The two front and back pieces of glass will be 31 1/8" X 47 1/2" the sides are 31 1/8" X 16 1/8" and the top is a whopping 15 7/8" X 47 1/2" Bob..the case stand is quite stable. I'll be picking up the glass today and assembling the case. I will silicone the glass in place on 3 sides...allowing for the right side to be simply slid into the recesses. The top fram will sit on top with the glass placed within their recesses and then brass screws will be placed at each corner. The top glass rests in recesses cut along the inner edge of the frame. This way I can remove the top and one side so I can flip the model if need be. I test fit the model on the case bed to see how well it sits and how it is harmonized with the stand. Here are some pics with the model on the stand base. Rob
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rwiederrich replied to Daliab's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
I built a scale model of the Cutty Sark back in 1976 using those sticks....I collected from my dads work. I'll look for the pics. Rob -
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rwiederrich replied to TheAuthorsDaughter's topic in New member Introductions
Hi Arina...I called Michael earlier this week to set up a time to meet...but I haven't heard from him....he's a busy researcher.... Can't wait for our meeting. Rob -
Spent some time today finishing up the woodwork for the case. Just finished laying on a coat of tung oil..... Glass shops were not open today so probably monday I will order. The drawer will be installed after the case is complete. The forth corner post is in the other room...it has decided to develop a slight bow. All this maple came from an 90 year old tree that died in my yard....it lay dry and dormant for about 5 years before I had it cut down and sectioned into 10 and 8ft legths that I had milled into 1 and 2 inch thick boards. I milled these pieces from that tree....it almost looks like walnut..so dark and knotty...with no rot. Rob
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Coincidental......I'm sure....fun.....but...…. Rob
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Welcome. I was working on her when I purchased the plans for Donald McKay's Great Republic(Which, themselves required a great many corrections).... I was so enamored with her and her history, I set the Glory aside, taking a rest and began the GR. Currently I am nearing her completion and as soon as I place her in her case.....I will return to working on the Glory of the Seas. I think I stopped also, because when I first began her I accepted some errors in her hull and minor errors in her finer structures....as I continued with her(and as my knowledge of her structures increased), I found myself more perplexed with them. Again...on the other hand, some structure errors are minimalistic and do not detract from the overall image. As you have previously pointed out.....she underwent many significant modifications, and replicating her during any one of them will still render an accurate model. Thank you for your interest and tell your father his writings concerning her are some of my favorite and I look forward to our conversations. Rob
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Chris C. Would you happen to have any images of this model....so we can see what configuration she was modeled at? Rob
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Arina...Michael lives in Bremerton.....OH MY..... I need to contact him Rob
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I'm converting this old table into a case for my GR model....I need to do some work on the base run of the glass frame but it will fit nicely on the table face....of course the maple will be stained and treated to mimic the same color of the table. I have the top section drying in the garage and its still gigged up. I have to mill out the corner posts and router out the top glass recess in the top frame. I will be siliconing all the glass edges accept the right side..it will be free so I can open the case and turn the model. The top will also be removable. I'm thinking of green felting the base......on the table top...so the wood base of the model will be more prominent. Rob
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Thanks so much Keith....his design is nearly the same one I came up with.....however I will not be utilizing a large flat piece of wood/material for the bottom of the case. I will be using the same frame design, but the frame will rest directly on the antique desk the model/case will rest on. Due to the size of my case....I will be siliconing all glass edges in their wood channels. I am, however resting the top glass in recesses from the top, so I can remove it if necessary. I will using small LED rounds simply placed on the glass aiming down into the case when scutinous viewing is required. Rob
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