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Upon further investigation...I commend you on your tedious attention to the repetitious. The material you are using is exactly what I thought it was. A vinyl lament used to cover MDF and to simulate wood. It can be purchased in a plethora of colors and grains. Your extensive use of it is very evident and well executed. The only draw back for me is that you have to cut every plank/panel by hand. Cutting many strips requires good strong edges and clean even lines....you , evidently have mastered that. I appreciate your use of it as trim...molding...and edging. Painting it gold, brown, black.....whatever color you need. Wonderful! Casting the hundreds of figurines and molding, using a master mold is also quite industrious....Great Job! Now that I have a background on your technique...I see you have mastered it and the results are exquisite. Wonderful...just wonderful. Rob
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I am glad you expounded further for my benefit. I was not privy to your original explanation on this technique. Several questions, if I may? What is your source for these *foils*? Do they come in several widths or are you limited to the width they are made in? Do they come pre-colored and then you modify the color as you have described? If memory serves me correctly....I think this material is a self adhering vinyl....used primarily for furniture repair and for simulated wood applications. I noticed you used the material on the wood floor of the cabin you were dressing out. And a similar wood grained material on the walls. Your application of this material is nothing short of amazing. Rob(Why the hair dryer?)
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Now that the yards are all sized...I will begin by starting from the top(disregard the main yards progress...it was done out of sequence), first by rigging the royal yard and mounting it first, then the topgallant, and so forth and so on....... I lurnt some things...and this time.....I will fully rig the yards prior to mounting. I hope to expedite the main from experience I gathered from the previous mast. Rob
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I then decided to make the main yards....so I fashioned them and then decided to make the main yard...with its foot ropes and stirrups. This one has all the pad eyes installed...even the sheet chain guide and truss. Rob
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This would be a prudent move.....I agree. However, I think I will not add the backstays until I first add some of the main stays. I want them installed inboard before I do outboard work. It will be some doing, but I agree. I opted to not do the stays tonight, but rather focus on making eye bolts for the many block connections that will be taking place on the masts as well as the yards. But first I chose to make a new tool to make this process move along much quicker. So I fashioned a hoop for my hand drill...make a collet to fit it because the stainless steel hoop wire was far to small for the drill vice. Once done I was able to knock out several dozen in no time. Here are a few pix of the job...one with a finished padeye on it....another showing the tool and still another showing the beginning process as I first begin to twist the eye(this one is not finished) Rob
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I may have missed this Doris....but when you mention (*foil tape*) that you used to simulate the planking...is that copper foil sticky back tape you use? And then you paint it? I never actually saw your technique in action...just the after effects. Rob
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Yes...I troubled over these for some time. The originals were taught, but they appeared unrealistic to me..so I removed them and created the ones with natural sag. Much more effective, the course is fluid in the wind and since it is not being held down by anything more then gravity and the tension of the braces, the clews needed to represent the same fluidity. As mentioned before, I'm representing a mild to moderate breeze in her sails. I have some halyard chain issues to correct...but after that, I think I will rig only the lower forestay......then get on to the main mast. I've vacillated with my next move and I think it would benefit construction, if I forgo adding all the forestays at this time(don't need to bump into them). Rob
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Spent some time today on the GR...first I had to replace the main clew lines with something that had realism and sag.... Finished adding some rope coils too. Here are bunch of pics.
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Thanks Harvey. Over the years it always seamed difficult for me to see how much effort was required to make Silkspan look like real sails...not to mention real cloth(which is way out of scale). I began using paper about 30 years ago....I've improved on my technique and from what I have determined....they are quite convincing these days. Thanks for the fine comments and encouragement. Paper is actually very easy to make look like authentic sails...when manipulated with the right tools and treated with paint. Finding material for scale sheet points (Nylon paint brush) was a spontaneous stroke of genius. If I say so myself. Not sure how mobile the model is....I will have to consider its travels.......thanks for enquiring.....it would be a real privilege to show her off. Rob
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Right. Having the main mast off really helps get around..when belaying lines and running them through the faileads. Rob
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That is exactly how I was going to do it. I have some extremely strong orthodontic stainless wire that is very small and it will do the job without looking like wire. Rob
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Not been feeling to well today so I just did a bit..... I added the buntlines and worked out some fairlead positions...
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Thank you so very much.... The details find themselves in preparation...and more preparation. Years of adding and retracting details have brought me to where I have ended. Good scale panel lines(On both sides) of your paper is a very good start. Applying even layers of paint to achieve a realistic opacity is also critical. It was a stroke of desperate, spontaneous, enginuity, that caused me to realize that the fine strands of a nylon paint brush, cut to scale length, would make exceptional reef points. The thread ones I used years ago..were just comical...and not really to scale. I think the effects I will use on the jib sails will surely step up my game...I just hope I can pull it off..since these sails need to appear to defy gravity. Since my GR sails are depicting a brisk breeze I will not have to mimic the jibs pushing away from the stays. I feel the effect, I'm looking for will provide the emotion I'm looking for. Thanks for your fine comments and compliments. And thanks everyone for your nice likes... Rob
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Thanks Pat...I appreciate that comment. My work pales compared to some masters who haunt these pages....I'm generally a lazy modeler...and I'm surprised myself, at some of the effects.... I'm actually thinking of rigging the head gear and rigging the fore stays and the jibs....before I move to the main mast. Rob
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Yes..that was determined...however, similar arrangements occur when tacking.....that is all I was referencing...when building a model other then prototypically. Thanks for the correction. Rob
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I'm liking the paper sails too....they are opaque enough..but still present a real sail like quality... A few more for the day..... Rob
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After the final rigging was added that would be harder to add later was done..I focused on making the fore main course. Using my sail making technique and a couple of hours...I finished making the sail and now all was needed was to bend it to the yard. It is being supported with extra elevation...so that when it is dry it will have some room to sag back down and be clewed up and rigged. Bunt lines and reef points were added as well...
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Spent some time finishing up the items I had mentioned earlier. The clew lines and the lower yard lifts......added some rope coils too..
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I did not take it as criticism....on the contrary....I encompassed your observation into a brauder observation, that yard positioning can be greatly expressed during many circumstances and or changes in wind direction and course. It is typically known that sails set on a model are set at an angle, catching the wind off the aft quarter...but even less known is that sails can be directed in any fashion during the evolution of a tack but are rarely depicted in a model such as represented in the image I provided. Folks sometimes forget that sails as much as they were used to propel the vessel..were also used to stop the vessel. I remember the CS hull offer and I hope that when I finish the GR...my imagination muscles will produce a wonderfully ingenious project for it. Thanks for the wonderful remarks. Rob
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I tend to agree, however, my point was the array caused by yards swinging about under a tack. I used this image to demonstrate what happens when every yard on a mast must shift in order to catch the wind. This image is what I had to demonstrate the principle. Thanks for pointing out the specifics of the movement. Your observation demonstrates how orchestrated the movement of the yards/sails was and how every purpose could be recognized. The question brought up originally about yard placement in relations to what I was trying to accomplish, I feel, was answered satisfactorily...solely based on historical evidence that Clipper ship masters would indeed extend the proper use of sails to achieve their ultimate goal of speed and to set a good sailing record. Clipper captains were known for PUSHING/DRIVING their ships and crews to the very brink of catastrophe. I think 12 to 20 degrees is ample pitch for my sails to exhibit their prowess and still expose enough rigging detail. The only folks who will ever see it will be family and friends, and myself. Scrutiny is low. Cept for now, while under my MSW friends all seeing eyes. Rob(Thanks for the fine comments and many likes everyone)
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IT would be the house....... When I am focused on adding as much detail as I can....it becomes almost second nature to *go for it* and add as much as possible. One thing one needs to keep in mind when identifying sail requirements for any particular wind speed. You are correct in the stun sails were made of much lighter material then storm sails and were generally employed in light breezes...to gain as much momentum as could be gained. But the little known fact is that many clipper captains were notorious for DRIVING their ships in all manner of weather and if they felt they could gain another knot by keeping the stun sails aloft while running before the wind...they would...and not even blink an eye doing so. Some captains would leave they sky sails set the entire voyage...even while rounding the horn(Dangerous stuff). Thanks for the fine compliment and comment. Rob
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