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Upon further investigation It has become clear to me that you (Lashed) the futtock shrouds at the mast band. I assumed they were secured in similar fashion as to the top deadeye loop band. Apparently not. Thanks for the clarity. Rob
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Yep...thank you...It wasn't clear initially, that you were going to use the top mast deadeye lanyards to actually tighten the futtock shrouds(As I would assume was accomplished in reality) Rob
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I guess what I mean is you are dealing with 2 separate fixed fixtures...one at each end of the futtock shroud...so.. for you to attach it with any tension..you had to open and re-close a copper hook and then adjust its tension...otherwise you would be left with shrouds that barely allow connection and then they will slump because the hook tip is longer then the body of the hook. Do you understand what I mean? Your shrouds are tight...what did you do to tighten them? Rob(Thanks for all the other info...)
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Several things Ed. First....Great job! Second, I gather the diameter of the shroud is the size you previously described in your discussion on the subject? aaaand the deadeyes are of the adjusted re-sizing? Thirdly, was it tedious using the iron ring hooks to adjust the tension on the futtock shrouds? Things must have been tight. Things are getting awesome and shipshape. Lastly, how will you pair the shrouds? 1&2, 3&4, 5&6....or.....1&6, 2&5, 3&4? Rob
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Popeye...the sheet corner wrinkles are embossed into the paper sail..so they will not *undue*. At this scale I opted to eliminate the sewn edging leech ropes...this would be covered up by the leech and foot lining (bands) anyway. Clarity and undue clutter makes for a better displayed sail in this scale I think. Bunt and leach lines along with reef points will be ample rigging detail. Making the untold numbers of Hank loops for the jib sails in scale will be a real skill stretcher..... Currently, I'm still working on the top masts...been postponed due to several friends health issues that need tending to. Rob
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Now that is attention to detail..... Will you be attending to this much detail on the 1/96 version? Rob
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Now I need to get started on the top masts.....My hope was to finish each mast independently now. Rob
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Impressive Nils...most impressive. Love those funnels.....so *steampunk*...... Rob
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How Realistic Can One Make Sails?
rwiederrich replied to Julie Mo's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Cat......I did another experiment for the Great Republic sails. This is simply an experiment and there will be far more detail added...but the general idea of billow and reef edge stressing in the fabric is achieved. I'll add reef point and bunt/leach lines when the sails are rigged. My example is not weathered....I decided to keep the sails as clean and sharp since the ship is clean and sharp. Rob -
I'm looking for a soft full sail...full, but not over powered..or limp. Kinda like this image(I won't be using stuns.) Rob
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Working on the sail curve.......the edge is important to roll right. This is a lower topsail...Not a main course.
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This is simply an experiment....and the actual sails will have lower edge banding as well as reef points. Plus I will work more diligently in achieving the curved lower edge. I think they will look clean and crisp...the look I'm looking for. Rob
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Magnificent work and attention to detail Ed... Rob
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Well I experimented after a great deal of study....... After creating the strips of canvas and fixing the edge and top banding and the clew band. I then lightly dusted with the appropriate light tan paint to soften the joint lines...I created the edge pleats by pressing heavy gauge wire alternately into the sail.....here is my experiment. Rob(the band seams are present on both sides.)
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Yes..Jeff I lived in the Olympic natl. forest watershed at Gold Mtn. I'm currently drawing up a seam template that I will duplicate that can be used for each sail. It will represent in scale...3/32=1ft. Or 3/16" =2ft canvas bands that represent each band on each sail. I will make many copies of the template one for each sail and cut the sail to scale, band it and each sail will be in scale to the other(I hope). I'm currently trying to figure out a good way to represent the upper spider bands and their pins for each mast. I failed to mention earlier concerning the futtock shrouds that they were probably cable...since from all I gather from my extensive study.....McKay was a forward thinker and utilized many ideas on the Great Republic that found their way on ships many years later....like self ventilating cabins, use of cable in the rigging and the use of a 15 horse power steam engine or loading/unloading cargo, pumping out the ship and operating the yards. Here's kinda what I was simulating. Rob
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I might have missed it(sure I did). Where are you going to display this beauty....on a dark wood mantle over your brick fire place..? Rob
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Well Jeff something or the other is up my sleeve...that's for sure... I've worked extensively with plain white paper. I've used simple yellow food coloring mixed in isopropyl alcohol 90%...and I've used brown India ink also diluted in alcohol. Once sprayed(Misted) on the sail it colors the sail as well as ages it. I don't have very many images of the process..except one image I found of a sail I did representing an extremely weathered patched old sail..hanging to dry. I was replicating the Portuguese Ferriera(aka..Cutty Sark) when she was laid up in some old backwater for years...rotting away. Her sails were very bad off. I tried to mimic the extremely wrinkled weathered drying sail...much like these sails drying on this clipper. But much worse off. Rob
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I've decided to make my sails in like fashion..except using paper.. Rob
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Well, unlike your masterpiece, I'm barely touching on detail. I really do appreciate your fine comments. Nothing could be less ornate then a greyhound of the see...stripped of all finary and things of comfort...speed is bread into them and any encumbrances to that goal are left at the dock side. Again...your comments are very appreciated..especially coming from one so masterful and accomplished as yourself. Rob
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Thanks Patrick...I work relatively fast when I have the time to do so. I plan out my work in stages and finish each stage before moving onto the next. I feel I get more accomplished when I tackle small jobs....they eventually all add up. Once I can measure the finished dimensions of the ship....I'll probably frame out(from knotty maple) a display case. Unlike most of my models that are out of reach by most..this one will be at table top level and needs protection from marauding grandkids fingers and creeping feline-ical critters. Rob
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Are those ventilators directional? Man..what a jumble(Forest) of ventilators on that old steam liner. You/re doing such a wonderful job Nils...love it...just love it. Rob
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