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Wow...time flies Rich. Congrats! Rob
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Great job....just about the way I do it....cept I use a plier and a stainless hook in a pinvise. You'll need to make *millions* of these in various sizes...so do so as quickly and effortlessly as possible. Rob
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Fortunately the aft wood bits are replicated at the bumpkin junction on my model. However, I am having issues with several points. I see no evidence of large wooden bits that are 3ft tall, forward or aft. However, I do see large iron chocks aft for mooring. I'm still wrestling with the notion that, "McKay spared no expense", in her construction, and by 1869, iron bits were in popular use. If I I see photographic evidence, or read of first hand accounts to the contrary, I will then humbly make alterations, until then, I am hesitant to make those corrections. It is clear....I bumbled the forecastle construction, and that I will happily amend. I'm not trying to be problematic or argumentative. Too many *Other* issues cloud the validity of the evidence. It is clear, on Earlier McKay vessels, he did, indeed use wood type bits....From what I have seen....but Glory of the Seas, was his final masterpiece and to opt out of the most modern fixtures and construction techniques....kinda flies in the face of What McKay was all about. Progressive improvements of his designs and the use of the most modern of material and industry. Rob
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It is so clear to me now. This correction will heighten the forecastle deck(to mimic the photograph), and it will provide ample room for the addition of the store lockers, beneath. The cat heads will need alterations to fit the correction. Rob
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Thanks Bob. I knew I would always regret not correcting this error. If I’m to be extremely particular about so much correct detail……..I couldn’t be a hypocrite concerning this error. You’ve always been an accuracy buff where I’m concerned and I know you wouldn’t have me act any differently. Now I can see clearly the correct forecastle deck location. As it should be. Rob
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Well here we go. …….. demolition time. First to remove all the furniture and hardware.
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I answered this earlier but it must have gotten sent to the nether regions. I pondered this issue for years. If the sheer of the deck is equally translated to the rail, and if the rail or bulwark is 6.5ft to include the monkey rail at 18". Then the forecastle floor is located at the planksheer and its decking is somewhere around the height of the rail. If Duncan MacLean says the forecastle height was 8ft....then the extra feet must have been derived from a sunken floor in the forecastle. If the sheer of the deck is uniform with the height of the rail...then is can't be 8ft. Photographs show the rail is consistent....except for the addition of the 18" splash rail on the bow. If the Forecastle decking is at the monkey rail height, that adds an additional 18" or a foot and a half more height. This means there is only the splash rail above the forecastle deck. but external images show the cathead deeply recessed within the monkey rail. Not knowing the exact height of the forecastle deck from any good image...it was determined from external images. Knowing were internal things are by external landmarks....such as the planksheer,, rail cap and monkey rail cap. It's too late to make any changes now, but it is food for thought. UPDATE: TO BE ADDRESSED.... I'm going to edit this post with further information: Upon further review of the men standing on the forecastle deck in this image ..it is clearly apparent that the splash rail is roughly 18" above the decking...this, by noticing the man standing by the anchor and measuring the distance from the deck to his knee...where the splash rail ends. It can be concluded that the extra height of the forecastle decking can be accommodated for by raising the deck to meet the top of the monkey rail and NOT the main rail (AS WHAT I AND VLAD DID). Adding 18+ inches to the height of the forecastle deck...thus, then provides the correct space below, as shown in the photograph with the boy. With this new revelation...it appears I have no other choice, but to redo the forecastle decking and raise it to its correct location.....and at that time....add the for storage lockers too. This is a significant error correction...one that needs to be made, if total accuracy is to be achieved. I will suspend my rigging operations........and proceed directly to rectify this profound oversight in perception and construction. The catheads will also be enlarged. The image of her at pier side demonstrates large catheads. I'm going to change the anchor release mech. as well. Demolition will ensue. Rob
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I have this booklet in my library....for the reason of that painting. I just forget who the artist is.....and more significantly though, is the drama in the paintings. The artists depicted Glory of the Seas quite well actually...and roughly during my modeling time period...too. Rob
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Just adding these paintings to the log. Not sure of the artist. Beautiful none the less. I’ve used them before. Rob
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Wonderful…….I can’t wait for a copy. I wonder if a follow up article will be in the future……..when our models are done? Or is that simply a MSW subject? I remember our first conversation about Glory, it has to be over 12 years ago by now. Rob
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Yeah…..I have that book. Super. Rob
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You know Rich...it's interesting how, new revelations seam to creep in...just after what we thought was the right direction, is found to be as much of an inaccuracy as any we uncovered. A wooden bit, would need deck penetration, and that would mean two 10~12" timbers would have to enter into the forecastle cabins for support below deck. This intrusion into that , already limited space, seams unnecessary. Anyway, it is what it is. Since Glory was built in 1869...during the time when ample innovations and the most modern equipment was employed.....And.....since we also know that McKay is known to have, *Spared No Expense* in her construction. I find it uncharacteristic of McKay to employ simple wood timbers for mooring bits. I've noticed several other interesting things in images. One, is....I want to know for sure what is the configuration of the Fore mast stay. In images of her being converted, the stay is actually two..coming down to their eye bolts. Next, in the image of her at San Fran in 1877, she is sporting only a single stay....MMMMMM. I know that the main(and top ) mast stay is a double....since it secured to the fore fife rail and is then paired just aft of the fore mast. What about the fore? In reviewing the image of the boy on the cabin....looking forward it became clear. The stay is *also* doubled..after it leaves its two eye bolts. Just like the main stay. In the later images of her canary refit,.....the stay was probably split to relieve tension on the mast. One reason, one must evaluate closely any rigging on her during this period of refit. Another revelation came some time ago when I was researching for other rigging anomalies. The Image of her in San Pedro....is quite historical in many aspects, but in this particular aspect...this is when she had her wood catwalk removed from atop the boys cabin. It is clearly visible, that the catwalk is removed and that one halve of its rail is being hoisted away by tackle rigged from her stays and that a space is evident n her carriage roof rail. I've found it quite important to evaluate these magnificent images....FULLY. For any and all construction and modification elements. Unfortunately.....sometimes we find them after the fact. Rob
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Spend some time today working on the fore lower topsail. Rob
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Interesting. I still want to see pics. Glad you got her all sent out. Can’t wait. Rob
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I sure want to see those pics of the wooden bits…… an I want one of the finer details and the $3 one too. I’ll pay a bro. Do you do Apple Pay? Rob
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Prepping and getting ready for foremast rigging. Shrouds and rat lines are up next. Rob
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Added a little aft scroll work. And rudder chain. Rob
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Man, that looks sweet. The stem angle we agreed upon is, IMV spot on. From stem to stern...Rich, she looks beautiful. Rob
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As originally built, Cutty most likely had a Fish Rig. Her anchor davits came some time later....along with many more mods. Rob
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Upon further review of this statement Banyan....I was wondering....what else is NOT Faux? Thank you for your fine compliment and continued encouragements. I would have NEVER achieved similar results with real cloth...not even with Silkspan. I had to be creative with this simulation....remembering that every aspect of this model is a simulation. The canvas on the boats(Not real canvas), the brass work(Not real iron), there is more plastics, composites, and other unorthodox materials on this model then there was ever on a real clipper. There is not one ounce of Oak, cedar, mahogany, white pine, but there is a whole lotta wood glue and CA to build a dinning room set. It's all an illusion...masterfully constructed to disguise the pirated engineering from a thousand things, both manmade and natural. I was just fortunate enough(By God's grace and blessings) to know how to combine all those elements and it turn out to be a replica of a beautiful clipper ship. We....all here, are doing the same thing....taking what, ISN'T and transforming it into what we want it to be, by skillful use of imagination(Another thing to thank God for). IMV...It's that simple. The hard part is taking all that earthly knowledge and turning it into a convincing ship model. Rob
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Good observation....If I were building a plastic model...I would be quite concerned with warpage. However with wood and strong construction...not too much. However.......Since, currently, all the stresses are pulling aft against the main mast....I need to be careful, not to over stress and *bend* the mast back beyond its established rake(Plus when I install one line, I then tend to slacken another...with no counter force). The tension I am putting on each line is minimal at best....just to get the un-natural *kink* out of the line. As of last night...I only added the braces for the main mast yards on the starboard side....probably against what I wanted to do, but no harm. I will most likely shift my attention to the foremast yards in the next few days.....after I touch up some minor details. I know it all appears unorthodox....cuz most begin rigging by stepping out the masts and then adding all the stays to begin the foundation of stability and rigidity. I'm moving....like I did with my Great Republic....in a more, *sub-system* methodology. Completing each mast with all its yards and rigging(mizzen first this time), then moving forward...culminating in the final rigging of the bowsprit/jibboom. Of course, I take deviations from this method, now and again, do to simplicity of construction and process of following the *Inside to outside* rule. One last note: Because we are not dealing with actual weight to stress ratios...like what would be encountered with real, large, heavy timbers...I can fudge the physics. And since its my habit to *fudge* things...I think the end result will not be effected. Rob
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Right. I’ll probably take her out against a neutral background some day soon. All the business in the background does take away a bit. She’s in the throw’s of construction…….really not ready for a proper photo shoot. Thanks for the great interest and support. Rob
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