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Steve has been working on his book for over a decade at least. He and his family's health, has taken turns over the years and he is currently off-line attending important family matters. Well over, 14 years ago, I became aware of Steves findings and about the history of Cooz Bay Oregon and the deep water ships that were built there. I have been coroborating with him for some time now and most of his information and data will not be released until his book is published. Steve has completed 4 models of the Western Shore himself...the one I posted was his largest scale to date and it now resides (I believe) at the North Bend visitors center. Steve is not unlike Michael Mjelde.....in that he has spent a great portion of his active modeling years researching the Cooz Bay phenomena and the activities at the Simpson Shipyard. He and I have been communicating since around 2008. Steve's been on TV ,featured in magazine articles, given interviews concerning his finds...I'm sure he would be thrilled to know we have shown such interest. Unfortunately...I don't know the time frame for his book publication. Rob
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I talked to Arina and she’ll talk to Mike too. Funny ……we’re on the same page…..again. I’m setting up a date for Mike to come by and view the model. Rob
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February………. That is still good news. It will then be published! Yeah……… Congrats. Rob
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Thanks Pat. I'm taking a great deal of my leanings from Mike Preske. He did the initial research on her and I want to glean heavely from his input. What I find most intrigueing about Western Shore, is that Mr Simpson NEVER insured his vessels. He owned them flat out and took full responsibility of them. His ships were built for his own particular use...so there was no *contractor* as was expected with most East coast clippers. Donald McKay acted in similar fasion on several occasions with several of his own clippers...where he flipped the construction bill...owned it flat out..with full intention of selling later...so insurance was a necessity for him. I'm, impresses with Mr Simpsons ability to reverse engineer his ships. A practice I tend to use myself. Going aboard vessels in port and adopting systems and structures he liked...taking measurments and then adopting them to his own vessels. That is a man who knows what he wants and skips the *middleman* to get the desired goal he seeks. The open helm design he selected is a very simple but efficient design. One thing I noticed about this design, is that the rudder post is much further forward then on the typical East coast clipper designs...suggesting that there was a greater fantail length to her stern then on those East Coast clippers...permitting her tiller or yoke to extend aft where the control lines can engage it via the control line drum. Your Victoria must have the hardware mounted under deck. The image of your helm is quite different. It looks more like the helm on the Charles W Morgan but without it being mounted on the tiller itself. Rob
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Several pics show the opening for the fairlead. Look at this image up close the open fair lead on the splash rail is evident. Next to the curved board used for the starboard running light. It’s very noticeable on the second image too. If you also notice the spill gate in front of the channel…….. the splash rail terminates just in front of it. See the aft fairlead right in front of the starboard running light board? That added feature is mounted on the leading edge of the forecastle deck. compare images and you’ll see
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Hi Rick. Every house was painted off model. I simply used acrylics. Fast drying, water soluble , easy cleanup. The furled sails are made from a dental bordering compound. Very pliable when working and hard when cured. Not available to everyone. However, a good quality hardening wax may suffice, after painted. Thanks for the very fine compliment. Rob
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What a whirlwind of building adventure since I began this log for the Western Shore. The Great Republic is finished.....I abandoned the old Glory of the Seas and built an entirely new one from scratch. Waiting for confermation from the museum I've contacted about her display.....and now....... Speaking to Steve Priske concerning his own builds of the Western Shore......I'm getting excited. there is still much more research to be done and supplies to be acquired but she is in the *Que*. Another painting of her.
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Wow..Vlad...you are really redoing a bit of structures. Remember..when you *cant* the poop stanchions...they return to vertical once past the backstay lanyards and round the stern in a vertical fashion...if not a slight outward slant(I wouldn't worry about that part) One BIG reason why I prefer 1.96 is that it permits me to forego lots of tiny details that would otherwise be missed do to thier small size. Your larger scale doesn't afford such benefits....if you want to be as accurate as possible. I admit, I am glad to see you making the changes..especially the stanchions. While, we are on the subject....I do not wish to contribute to any more remakes....but to keep things as accurate as possible...you might want to review several other items I'v noticed that are issues. One is the location of your aft fairleads on the splash rail. Photograph evidence shows them just forward of the termination of the forecastle edge and close by the wood billets. Yours are too far aft and are actually in a useless location. Review the image Mike Mjelde gave us of Glory from an overhead view...prior to her burning. It clearly shows the starboard splashrails leading edge and you can clearly see the gap for the fairlead...just in front of that large staging board that was placed there during her canary refit. Secondly(Unfortunately) is the design of your main mast fife rail. You modeled it to extend quite far past the pump and wheels...but if you review the photographs....namely the one of her men working fish on her decks in Alaska....you will clearly see her rail ends at or slightly before the flywheels edge. Please believe me...I do not mention these to throw a wrench into your fine work or any such thing.....I, just as Rich...only desire that you have all the info to make the most accurate model of Glory during the time period you are modeling her. You've made so many self corrections up to this point......clearly demonstrating your desire to make the most accurate model you can. Good luck...and as always...you're doing a wonderful smart job. Rob
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The representation is designed to depict another vessel far off in the distance. It will appear small and somewhat submerged That detail can go in perfected, my model is the detail in question. Rob
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Thanks Nic....I truly appreciate your compliment. My attention might shift to researching and scratch building the only clipper ever to be built on the West coast....in Cooz Bay Oregon...the *Western Shore*. She was unquestionably an extremely fast clipper, however she was short lived..built on October 10, 1874 and wrecked on July 9, 1878. One notible race was between the *Three Brothers*, *British King*and the *Western Shore*..sailing from San Fran to Liverpool. Both the Three Brothers and British King consumed more then 150 days to make the passage, while the Western Shore completed the same track in 104 days. This future build excites me for several reasons. The only 3 masted full rigged ship built on the West Coast of the US and the nature of her design and material used in her construction. She was built entirely of Douglas-fir and Port Orford cedar......with some exotic woods used in her cabins and gallary. She sported 6 yards per mast. I'm generally a McKay clipper enthusiest, but this particular clipper stands out as quite significant. Worthy of reproduction. I've already started a build log for her...just haven't contributed to it as of late....I suspect that will change. Rob
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Oh...I'll find something to fill the hole....its finding the right thing that fits the hole. Thanks for the fine comments. Rob
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Thank very much Bob. Your praise means a lot to me. From the helm house these was a convenient stairway leading down to the large cabin and quickly to the captains cabin. Rob
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I know……when I reviewed the image I just about fainted. I couldn’t stop laughing at hour nearly exact the image took. Even the background clipper was positioned correctly. I agree….this image vindicates our years of work and study. Glory is alive! Rob
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Folks have been asking for a comparison shot of Glory in SanFran in 1877. The image I used as a model. Will this do? You’d think I colorized the image.
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Thanks everyone, for the fine comments and compliments. It's a surreal moment actually. I moved along at a neck breaking speed and now it's all over....stopped. My focus now will be to contact the local museum and see if they are willing to display her. The novel notion is that she lived her last years here in the Tacoma/Seattle area and was probably a regular sight for those who traveled the docks. I will include all my artifacts and any other related subjects...to include(with permission) a signed copy of Michael Mjelde's books on Glory of the Seas. We'll see what comes of it. I will surely keep everyone abreast of any news. Now I will perform a good field day in the shop and do some rearanging....then I'll put Glory back on the bench and cover her in protective plastic to keep the cobb webs away. While it's determined what will be her fate. Again...thank you to everyone who contributed and encouraged me along...and to those who simply watched and enjoyed Glory of the Seas coming alive and regaining her rightful place as Donald McKay's last and probably his paramount clipper creation. Rob
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She isn’t staying there ……just a pose I’m afraid. Thanks for the compliments. Trob
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