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This morning the completed hull section #7 was waiting for me. I launched the print of hull section #8 and was disappointed to find that the level had shifted and the print at the front right corner was not sticking because the nozzle was too far from the bed. It took eight or nine attempts before a good looking start was achieved. Unfortunately after a couple of hours I noticed that the right side of the print was deformed and raised up from the bed. I could see light under the bowed section so it wasn't going to be rectified by a bit of putty so I stopped the print and restarted it with a slower initial speed. The support piece which was printing in the middle of the bed was perfect which confirms my thoughts that the level accuracy is more acute out at the edges of the bed. I haven't developed a theory on why the right side got deformed other than it looks like the brim was lifting from the bed and resulted in warping. The learning curve remains at quite a gradient. Alan
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Thanks Yves I will look at that. I feel like I shouldn't get leveling issues from one print to the next. There has to be some flex or freedom somewhere that can be locked down. Alan
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OC I completely agree with you. The enjoyment is seeing the model come together and feeling good about how it looks as each stage is worked on. This has been a bit overwhelming to start with just because its so big but I am enjoying taking each element and working on it and I really don't worry about when it will be completed. Its the journey and not the destination. I still get a big kick from seeing a nicely folded piece of PE installed and thinking how good it looks. As you say then it gets stuck in a display case and I'm finding it a challenge to find space for them. This build has taught me a lot about working on bigger models and I think I will be more confident with the Hood and Prince of Wales
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I think the ant died of boredom waiting for the print to finish. I missed the ant in the photos; we seem to be finding one or two a day at present. The hot and wet days I suppose. The pest guy sprayed and they are turning up dead now and hopefully will go away. Alan
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Thank you for the kind words of support OC. There have been a few moments when I have considered packing it all up and putting it in the back of the cupboard. I think I understand how to correct the bed when it is out of level but I still don't understand why it persists in going out of level. More research and trials ahead Alan
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Thank you OC. Sometimes it feels like I'm flailing around in this build without achieving much; there is just so much to this kit. Huge parts count, wooden decks, lots of PE and a real exercise in working out the build sequence. Anyway its supposed to be fun not a time and motion study. Alan
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Progress continues but at the speed of printing. Adding the supports increased the build time so we are still working away on hull section 7. As you can see it will be a day and a half marathon when completed. The support structure for the prop tunnel finishes at the dotted line about halfway up and the tunnel itself is the upper section Thanks for looking Alan
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Thanks Ron I wanted to document the holes in the road that I fell into that Yves skills and research kept him out of. Ultimately I hope it will become a proper ships build log but I wanted to address how I got there and the effort and learning that it took. Alan
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Thanks Craig; I'll keep an eye on them I think the items you mention are probably areas where there is some compromise in a hobby machine and capable of improvement. Watching the vertical rod for run out it appears to be straight but I am learning that these machines are all about small errors. Also probably why you can spent $800 on a machine instead of $200 Alan
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Thanks Egilman I'm looking forward to hitting the plateau😄. Getting the hull sections done will be a huge milestone Alan
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Today was a monster grey spray day. The hull grey was sprayed (on the hull) and the superstructure modules and components got the light grey treatment and emptied my bottle of light grey. The masks were taken off and the hull and some structure is now ready for the wooden decks and then more detail and PE as they get built up. The fine detail and PE that Flyhawk puts in their models is starting so show nicely. Thanks for looking and have a great weekend Alan
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Thank you for the kind words OC. I'm using the Vallejo black primer. I have their grey too but I like the black with thin layers of the final coat it seems to give some shading and depth to the model. I air brush it undiluted or with a few drops of their thinner. It doesn't need much thinner at all. Alan
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Thank you for the kind words OC. I'm using the Vallejo black primer. I have their grey too but I like the black with thin layers of the final coat it seems to give some shading and depth to the model. I air brush it undiluted or with a few drops of their thinner. It doesn't need much thinner at all. Alan
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The learning experience continues but there was some positive progress to help my sanity This morning I was very happy to find the print for hull section #3 had successfully completed. I sliced the file for section 7 and set the printer in motion. I initially used the Crealty slicer and set a skirt but it seems the program allows a skirt which is too large for the bed and the result is a tangle so I returned to the Cura slicer and a 6mm brim to help the part adhere to the bed. I was thrilled to find that the print looked good at the first attempt and I left it to its own devices. Driving to Aldi to buy coffee a little later it occurred to me that this was the section that has the propeller tunnel begin in mid section. This meant the printer was probably going to try to build the circular section in mid air and that was unlikely to end well. In hind sight the same problem was present with section #1 where there is a section of deck. I had been a bit disappointed to find a few layers of the deck to be loose and for some reason it didn't occur to me that the printer was extruding the filament without a surface to stick to and build from. I think I escaped lightly on this one probably because it was a straight line piece. Hopefully it will be salvageable. I couldn't see the printer coping with a mid air circular section so I reluctantly stopped the print which was looking nice. I went back to Cura and added supports and sliced again. Again (I'm almost afraid to say it) the print started well on the first attempt and is now in progress with supports in place. So I lost a few hours and a few metres of filament but at least I didn't let the whole thing print off. As I said above I'm almost scared to think about it too much but if I now have the bed reliably levelled it is going to make this project a lot more fun. Thanks for looking in Alan
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Yesterday I started primer coast. I haven't used this much primer in a single session before and there are still a few parts still to do. Looking where I am with the build I think Flyhawk provided the parts for Scharnhorst as well so I think there will be some unused parts. Today the dark grey went onto the metal decks and the gun turret tops. Some light grey on the secondary armaments and small deck fittings. I masked the wooden deck areas so the wooden deck will be sticking to the bare plastic rather than paint. I'm hoping that will improve adhesion. I don't know if that is really necessary but I didn't want to mess up the wooden decks Next up will be masking the dark grey areas and painting the hull grey and superstructure before returning to building up details. Thanks for looking Alan
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Yves She is looking spectacular as the paint and details are added. Its an inspiration for me flailing around in the trenches. Alan
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Craig She looks great. The details are so neat and clean - and there are a lot of them. I'm hoping the Geisenau will break me in for attempting the Hood when it arrives. Alan
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In spite of getting a good test result from the levelling technique mentioned earlier it took a stunning 23 attempts to get a print to establish on the bed. My new found knowledge from the leveling exercise did allow me to understand that the front right corner was not perfectly level and was resulting in the print lifting or the nozzle ploughing the print. The movement of the adjusting screw from too much gap to too little seems to be less than 1/4 turn of the screw. So each attempt was made with the front right screw being tweaked a small amount and the print started. again and the initial layers observed to see how they are laying down. I suspect that these hull prints which use the full scope of the bed are much more sensitive to leveling issues than a small print in the centre of the bed. I thought I had a good print initiated but returning after an hour I found the front right part had lifted from the bed and been moved by teh nozzle and a distorted print was resulting. At 1am I managed to get a clean looking start to the print and it is now in progress with 5 hours still to run. It will be interesting to see if I can go straight into another hull print without having to go through the levelling voodoo first. I had hoped the stronger springs would remove that need but we shall see sometime tomorrow
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Thanks Yves That's close to what I'm using although I have the bed at 65C. I haven't tried a deck piece yet. I'm trying to tough it out with the hull sections. 😄 Alan
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From my limited experience the thin even coats of paint that don't hide the details will impress you and really make your work look good. I need to learn to shade and free hand areas like the masters but even at my level of ability I get results I couldn't emulate any other way. Alan
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