realworkingsailor

Well received, thank you so much! 
 
Andy

I don’t know how people ever brush painted these things. 

Very close to the finish now, I need to do some airbrush touch ups and rigging, then the windscreen and guns 

Glue dried sufficiently to attach the tail cone/vertical stabilizer assembly to the fuselage as well as the forward fuselage/cockpit assembly to the fuselage.
Once the joins are sanded a bit to smooth them out and an application of Mr. Surfacer with a little more sanding to blend it all in and the join areas should disappear. There is one area just forward of the vertical stabilizer where I will glue in a piece of stretched sprue to fill a small gap.
Next comes flaps, horizontal stabilizers, intakes, jet nozzles, and various protrusions from the fuselage and wings. I may go ahead and prep the areas that need it with Mr Surfacer and a little sanding before adding the nozzles and intakes. They may get in the way of that later if I wait.

There are references my friend...
 
See if you can find a copy of...
Thomas, Chris and Christopher Shores. The Typhoon and Tempest Story. London: Arms and Armour Press, 1988. ISBN 0-85368-878-8.
Thomas, Chris. Hawker Typhoon (Warpaint Series No. 5). Husborne Crawley, Bedfordshire, UK: Hall Park Books Ltd., 2000.
Shores, Christopher and Chris Thomas. Second Tactical Air Force Volume Four. Squadrons, Camouflage and Markings, Weapons and Tactics. Hersham, Surrey, UK: Ian Allan Publishing Ltd., 2008. ISBN 1-906537-01-1
 
Chris Thomas is the guru of everything Typhoon and Tempest, there is no better source.... I'm currently looking thru my library brother to see if I have a copy of Warpaint #5....
 
If I do I'll let you know...
 

I’ve been doing as much digging on my own as I can, the only real reference that I can find is from a decal company called aviaeology. In their aircraft stencil set for the Typhoon, they are ambivalent on the status of that particular stencil. From what they say, definitely present in rocket Typhoons, maybe/maybe not for bombphoons…
 

 
In all honesty it’s enough ambiguity for me to leave things as they are, but my curiosity is still piqued…
 
Andy

Yes and no.
 
Designed at the outset as a pure fighter (the prototype Typhoon was equipped with 12 .303 brownings), there were performance issues that ultimately made it lacklustre in that role. 
 
In the fighter-bomber role, while the Typhoon could carry either bombs or rockets (and were initially designed to be interchangeable), the skills needed to effectively deliver each type of munition were different. The British found it was more efficient and effective for each squadron or wing to specialize in one or the other. All of 143 wing (RCAF) airplanes were bomb carriers from the outset of their transfer to Britain.
 
So I think my question still stands, would that stencil have still been applied to an airplane that, while capable, would not, foreseeably, have been equipped with rockets?
 
I doubt the factories would have applied anything. I think any fitting out would have been done at the various maintenance units, in preparation for whatever frontline unit the aircraft was destined for.
 
Andy
 

Thanks again everyone!
 
The lettering is tentatively finished. 
 

 

 
As I did with my Hurricane, I laser printed the registration number on blank decal paper. As long as I keep choosing to model airplanes with black painted numbers, I can do this as many times as I like. The font is about as close as I could get and the "1" in 518 is actually a lower case "L", but overall I'm happy.
 

 
The only spot where I have questions is the stencil located inboard of the underside roundels. It reads "Check Firing Contacts Before Connecting Leads". After I had applied them and figured out what they said, it got me wondering if these stencils are specific to rocket firing Typhoons or were they applied to all Typhoons, regardless. If anyone has information, please let me know. I haven't sealed the decals yet, so removal is still easy.
 
Andy

I’ve been doing as much digging on my own as I can, the only real reference that I can find is from a decal company called aviaeology. In their aircraft stencil set for the Typhoon, they are ambivalent on the status of that particular stencil. From what they say, definitely present in rocket Typhoons, maybe/maybe not for bombphoons…
 

 
In all honesty it’s enough ambiguity for me to leave things as they are, but my curiosity is still piqued…
 
Andy

I’ve been doing as much digging on my own as I can, the only real reference that I can find is from a decal company called aviaeology. In their aircraft stencil set for the Typhoon, they are ambivalent on the status of that particular stencil. From what they say, definitely present in rocket Typhoons, maybe/maybe not for bombphoons…
 

 
In all honesty it’s enough ambiguity for me to leave things as they are, but my curiosity is still piqued…
 
Andy

I’ve been doing as much digging on my own as I can, the only real reference that I can find is from a decal company called aviaeology. In their aircraft stencil set for the Typhoon, they are ambivalent on the status of that particular stencil. From what they say, definitely present in rocket Typhoons, maybe/maybe not for bombphoons…
 

 
In all honesty it’s enough ambiguity for me to leave things as they are, but my curiosity is still piqued…
 
Andy

Yes and no.
 
Designed at the outset as a pure fighter (the prototype Typhoon was equipped with 12 .303 brownings), there were performance issues that ultimately made it lacklustre in that role. 
 
In the fighter-bomber role, while the Typhoon could carry either bombs or rockets (and were initially designed to be interchangeable), the skills needed to effectively deliver each type of munition were different. The British found it was more efficient and effective for each squadron or wing to specialize in one or the other. All of 143 wing (RCAF) airplanes were bomb carriers from the outset of their transfer to Britain.
 
So I think my question still stands, would that stencil have still been applied to an airplane that, while capable, would not, foreseeably, have been equipped with rockets?
 
I doubt the factories would have applied anything. I think any fitting out would have been done at the various maintenance units, in preparation for whatever frontline unit the aircraft was destined for.
 
Andy
 

Thanks again everyone!
 
The lettering is tentatively finished. 
 

 

 
As I did with my Hurricane, I laser printed the registration number on blank decal paper. As long as I keep choosing to model airplanes with black painted numbers, I can do this as many times as I like. The font is about as close as I could get and the "1" in 518 is actually a lower case "L", but overall I'm happy.
 

 
The only spot where I have questions is the stencil located inboard of the underside roundels. It reads "Check Firing Contacts Before Connecting Leads". After I had applied them and figured out what they said, it got me wondering if these stencils are specific to rocket firing Typhoons or were they applied to all Typhoons, regardless. If anyone has information, please let me know. I haven't sealed the decals yet, so removal is still easy.
 
Andy

I’ve been doing as much digging on my own as I can, the only real reference that I can find is from a decal company called aviaeology. In their aircraft stencil set for the Typhoon, they are ambivalent on the status of that particular stencil. From what they say, definitely present in rocket Typhoons, maybe/maybe not for bombphoons…
 

 
In all honesty it’s enough ambiguity for me to leave things as they are, but my curiosity is still piqued…
 
Andy

I’ve been doing as much digging on my own as I can, the only real reference that I can find is from a decal company called aviaeology. In their aircraft stencil set for the Typhoon, they are ambivalent on the status of that particular stencil. From what they say, definitely present in rocket Typhoons, maybe/maybe not for bombphoons…
 

 
In all honesty it’s enough ambiguity for me to leave things as they are, but my curiosity is still piqued…
 
Andy

Yes and no.
 
Designed at the outset as a pure fighter (the prototype Typhoon was equipped with 12 .303 brownings), there were performance issues that ultimately made it lacklustre in that role. 
 
In the fighter-bomber role, while the Typhoon could carry either bombs or rockets (and were initially designed to be interchangeable), the skills needed to effectively deliver each type of munition were different. The British found it was more efficient and effective for each squadron or wing to specialize in one or the other. All of 143 wing (RCAF) airplanes were bomb carriers from the outset of their transfer to Britain.
 
So I think my question still stands, would that stencil have still been applied to an airplane that, while capable, would not, foreseeably, have been equipped with rockets?
 
I doubt the factories would have applied anything. I think any fitting out would have been done at the various maintenance units, in preparation for whatever frontline unit the aircraft was destined for.
 
Andy
 

Thanks again everyone!
 
The lettering is tentatively finished. 
 

 

 
As I did with my Hurricane, I laser printed the registration number on blank decal paper. As long as I keep choosing to model airplanes with black painted numbers, I can do this as many times as I like. The font is about as close as I could get and the "1" in 518 is actually a lower case "L", but overall I'm happy.
 

 
The only spot where I have questions is the stencil located inboard of the underside roundels. It reads "Check Firing Contacts Before Connecting Leads". After I had applied them and figured out what they said, it got me wondering if these stencils are specific to rocket firing Typhoons or were they applied to all Typhoons, regardless. If anyone has information, please let me know. I haven't sealed the decals yet, so removal is still easy.
 
Andy

Well your correct, it was designed as a 400kt+ interceptor to counter the FW-190 which was kicking Spitfire tail when it was introduced... and once the aircraft was proved, the air ministry pre-ordered 1,000 craft... but that order was never completed they were the Typhoon Mk 1A's... It's issue were engine and structural related which made it's fighter role problematic... The aircraft was redesigned with improved engines and cannons rather than machine guns and structural improvements which weren't completely successful...  (the Typhoon Mk 1B) The typhoon had a bad reputation for shedding its tail in flight... Although they got that issue down to acceptable levels, it never completely went away... During '42, the Germans developed a new tactic using the FW 190 as fighter bombers launching low level harassing raids on the southern english coast... the Typhoon achieved it first small run of success during this period where it managed to intercept and shoot down many of the fw-190's, but I believe this was because of the 190's overloaded condition....
 
After that partial success, it was decided because of it's low level flying characteristics, fast and heavy armament load... They decided to try it out as a fighter bomber.. so mounts were installed in the wings to accept bombs or rockets, the rocket launchers and bomb racks used the same mount and firing circuitry... the intention was to field mixed units of rocket and bomb armed aircraft to do low level sweeps over enemy territory...
 
In practice though, this idea was found to be impractical, as both dropping bombs and firing rockets on target took completely different skillsets, so they broke the bomb and rocket aircraft into separate squadrons flying form the same airbases... In this role the Typhoon Mk1B was a huge success... (although is still had the structural issues that were never fully resolved, and an engine that was underpowered and not completely reliable which was also never fully resolved)
 
But yes all typhoons (except for a few early Mk1A's remaining) were bomb and rocket capable, and both types, bombs/rockets, used the same electrical firing circuits, so yes they all would have the stencil... (even the Mk1A's that were brought up to Mk1B standards) it didn't matter if they were a rocket or bomb equipped typhoon... (By D-Day, the RAF's 2nd TAF fielded 11 RP ("Rockphoon") squadrons and seven "Bombphoon" squadrons.
 
I can keep digging up more, but British aircraft are not my strong suit.... You are correct brother, it was not designed as a fighter-bomber, I though it was... But it became very clear that ground attack was it's very best role...  
 
(and it became the basis of the Hawker Tempest, which was the best Fighter Bomber of the war bar none... (with all due respect to the IL-2 and P-47 crowd {chuckle})

Yes and no.
 
Designed at the outset as a pure fighter (the prototype Typhoon was equipped with 12 .303 brownings), there were performance issues that ultimately made it lacklustre in that role. 
 
In the fighter-bomber role, while the Typhoon could carry either bombs or rockets (and were initially designed to be interchangeable), the skills needed to effectively deliver each type of munition were different. The British found it was more efficient and effective for each squadron or wing to specialize in one or the other. All of 143 wing (RCAF) airplanes were bomb carriers from the outset of their transfer to Britain.
 
So I think my question still stands, would that stencil have still been applied to an airplane that, while capable, would not, foreseeably, have been equipped with rockets?
 
I doubt the factories would have applied anything. I think any fitting out would have been done at the various maintenance units, in preparation for whatever frontline unit the aircraft was destined for.
 
Andy
 

Upper and lower fuselage halves have been glued together with the wings glued in place in the extended position. Waiting for the glue to dry overnight. Forward fuselage and cockpit posed in place with no glue yet. Everything fits very well.

Yes and no.
 
Designed at the outset as a pure fighter (the prototype Typhoon was equipped with 12 .303 brownings), there were performance issues that ultimately made it lacklustre in that role. 
 
In the fighter-bomber role, while the Typhoon could carry either bombs or rockets (and were initially designed to be interchangeable), the skills needed to effectively deliver each type of munition were different. The British found it was more efficient and effective for each squadron or wing to specialize in one or the other. All of 143 wing (RCAF) airplanes were bomb carriers from the outset of their transfer to Britain.
 
So I think my question still stands, would that stencil have still been applied to an airplane that, while capable, would not, foreseeably, have been equipped with rockets?
 
I doubt the factories would have applied anything. I think any fitting out would have been done at the various maintenance units, in preparation for whatever frontline unit the aircraft was destined for.
 
Andy
 

Thanks again everyone!
 
The lettering is tentatively finished. 
 

 

 
As I did with my Hurricane, I laser printed the registration number on blank decal paper. As long as I keep choosing to model airplanes with black painted numbers, I can do this as many times as I like. The font is about as close as I could get and the "1" in 518 is actually a lower case "L", but overall I'm happy.
 

 
The only spot where I have questions is the stencil located inboard of the underside roundels. It reads "Check Firing Contacts Before Connecting Leads". After I had applied them and figured out what they said, it got me wondering if these stencils are specific to rocket firing Typhoons or were they applied to all Typhoons, regardless. If anyone has information, please let me know. I haven't sealed the decals yet, so removal is still easy.
 
Andy

Yes and no.
 
Designed at the outset as a pure fighter (the prototype Typhoon was equipped with 12 .303 brownings), there were performance issues that ultimately made it lacklustre in that role. 
 
In the fighter-bomber role, while the Typhoon could carry either bombs or rockets (and were initially designed to be interchangeable), the skills needed to effectively deliver each type of munition were different. The British found it was more efficient and effective for each squadron or wing to specialize in one or the other. All of 143 wing (RCAF) airplanes were bomb carriers from the outset of their transfer to Britain.
 
So I think my question still stands, would that stencil have still been applied to an airplane that, while capable, would not, foreseeably, have been equipped with rockets?
 
I doubt the factories would have applied anything. I think any fitting out would have been done at the various maintenance units, in preparation for whatever frontline unit the aircraft was destined for.
 
Andy
 

Thanks again everyone!
 
The lettering is tentatively finished. 
 

 

 
As I did with my Hurricane, I laser printed the registration number on blank decal paper. As long as I keep choosing to model airplanes with black painted numbers, I can do this as many times as I like. The font is about as close as I could get and the "1" in 518 is actually a lower case "L", but overall I'm happy.
 

 
The only spot where I have questions is the stencil located inboard of the underside roundels. It reads "Check Firing Contacts Before Connecting Leads". After I had applied them and figured out what they said, it got me wondering if these stencils are specific to rocket firing Typhoons or were they applied to all Typhoons, regardless. If anyone has information, please let me know. I haven't sealed the decals yet, so removal is still easy.
 
Andy

Thanks again everyone!
 
The lettering is tentatively finished. 
 

 

 
As I did with my Hurricane, I laser printed the registration number on blank decal paper. As long as I keep choosing to model airplanes with black painted numbers, I can do this as many times as I like. The font is about as close as I could get and the "1" in 518 is actually a lower case "L", but overall I'm happy.
 

 
The only spot where I have questions is the stencil located inboard of the underside roundels. It reads "Check Firing Contacts Before Connecting Leads". After I had applied them and figured out what they said, it got me wondering if these stencils are specific to rocket firing Typhoons or were they applied to all Typhoons, regardless. If anyone has information, please let me know. I haven't sealed the decals yet, so removal is still easy.
 
Andy