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  1. Mirabell61
    thank you John, I have meantime found evidence for the expence of coppering, specially on early Pilot Schooners ( Author H. Karting, about the history of early Pilot Schooners ) Nils
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    Am pleased you like the Pilot Schooner in progress Ian, and many thanks for your words.... Nils
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    thanks for your input Eberhard, I`m also not sure if she had a coppered bottom at time of early duty, but I like the appeal of sheeted underwater skin for the model and it corresponds with to days overhauled vessel. Nils
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    Hi Keith, as I mentioned earlier this is the first time I tried to use copper sheeting. the sheet thickness 0,1 mm was ideal for poncing and flattening but unfortunetly there is no self- adhesive copper material available in that thickness. So it was a dive into cold water when applying the sheeting by means of contact glue. I`m pleased to see that it works, allthough its quite a procedure to get the sheeting done clean enough avoiding a messy look. Nils
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    Update 0,1 mm thick Copper Plating / sheeting is now well under way..... Nils
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    You may be right Eberhard, its the first time I`m using contact glue, so learn by doing.... Before that I was always using self adhesiv Aluminium tape Nils
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    Update today I start the preparation for the copper sheeting below the waterline. I`m using 0,1 mm thick copper sheet, but have to glue these tiles to the hull by means of contact glue. (apply on both surfaces) I have a copper sheet sample which allows about half the job quantity to be done. If it works out right, I`ll buy some more copper. With the contact glue there is no adjustment possible in moving the tiles any more. Thats why I brought the white tape lines as a guide to the hull. The sheeting strips will be cut from the ponced length of 5 to single tiles, each overlapping edges on two sides. It will be easier to apply the glue to the longer strips Nils the ponced stips are flattened in order to simulate the sink in dents from the nails two sorts for port and starboard side sheeting first the hull gets a wood-surface bounding primer for better glueing contact the guide lines with masking tape. This also helps to limit the appropriate glue application to the hull this is a 350 ml this is a 350 ml can of contact glue for Wood / metal connection
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    Update the bowpost was cladded and brought to a final thickness of 3 mm (would be in actual 157 mm). The wale / bumper rails have been fitted. Tricky rails at the aft rounding were made from 1/2 round brass profile Also the hole for the ruddershaft sleeve was drilled and the sleeve was glued in for taking up the ruddershaft later on..... Nils fitting the brass profiles was quite tricky and for wood/brass conection I used higher thixotrope super glue sleeve to take up the ruddershaft I was pleased to have drilled the sleeve boring exactly were it should come out, close to the stern post. The rudder will have a 2 mm shaft in the 3mm OD tube
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    Thank you John, I`m glad that you like it..... in the moment I`m doing trials with plating tiles cut from copper sheet to simulate the sheeting, and looking for a suitable contact-glue ( for safe wood/copper) connection Nils
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    Thank you Michael, I also like these old sailing vessels, the pilot schooner Elbe 5 had and still has a traditional maritime relation to Hamburg. The Americans know her as "Wander Bird". Enjoy watching the build Nils
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    Rob, thanks for looking in. Yes you`re right, except for the tremendous length difference of the original ships and the model scales 1:144 vs 1:51 now, the building of the schooner model is being built in the same way. You may note that here also I only put on a single layer of planking in 1,5 mm plank thickness. This causes me to be careful not to take away too much of the material thickness when sanding. I`m very pleased with the scraping results of the first side, only a minimum needed to be scraped off with 0,9mm thick hardened steel blades Nils The tools this is only by scraping, no sanding yet.... the bottom planks at the keel are also sidewise covering the slots in which the pedestal spindles will go through later on
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    Keith, many thanks for looking in, am pleased you like the schooner`s progress... Nils
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    Update the bulwarks and the aft rounding have been planked with pine, next will be to scrape the entire planking with a scraping blade prior to sanding it all over Nils the aft bulwark rounding is planked verticaly, the lower portion of it will be trimed flush with the below planking put 20 planks on each side. The sternpost will be adjusted and trimed
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    good morning Matthias, many thanks for looking in, I`m pleased that you like it. I will be fitting the last 3 planks in the next days. The Zeesboot is momentarily still standing on the bench in my work room and looks at me every day. I must and will go on with that build as well Nils
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    beautiful build Matthias, nice, clean and accurate work. She isggoing to be a beauty Nils
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    Update The planking is quite time intensive due to the glue curing time, and the bending stresses, but meantime I got 11 planks to each side. I`m also thinking about copper sheeting the hull below the waterline. I have a sample copper sheet 0,1 mm thick, unfortunately that is not available with a gluefilm on the rear side. Will have to make some glueing trials. The poncing of the copper quality (sunk nail heads) is no problem though.... Nils the red-cedar planks follow the frame contours quite well the planking from the deckline downwards will be scraped afterwards, prior to sanding the aft bulwark section will be planked with vertical attached planks. Probably the bulwarks will be planked with pine, also 1,5 x 6mm, because my red-cedar planks have come to an end in opposite to a riviting immitation the ponce sheet parts will be turned around 180 degr. for faking the sunk sheeting nail haids here a sample for poncing with different toothwheel moduls this is the actual schoner in the shipyard after being in water for quite some time. My model will not be fitted with props
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    Great job Ras, a real workboat with much lovely detailwork Nils
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    Beautiful work Jim, I very much like the Pinky.... Nils
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    Hi Jond, you did a great job there, the exchangeable rudder for RC and the extra keel for lateral balance. Can imagine her on the way over the lake or pond Nils
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    Thanks for looking in and for your interest B:E. I`ll do my best to get this project through..... Nils
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    Many thanks for your kind words LEFEBVRE with interest I`ll be looking forward to you Bohuslän-build pictures Best regards Nils
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    Update the first 3 planks per side are on now. looks like there are not enough red cedar planks for the whole length, so I might need to use the cut off ends and stick / shaft them together. Nils planks are 1,5 x 6 mm this is one of the pedestal spindle counter press in nuts the frames deckside beams will need some trimming and adjusting in order to get a smooth deck lay on
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    Bob, many thanks for forwarding the vidio you found on u-tube. After that I found quite a couple of other clips relating to the ship. Frightening to see were the kids on board, having their childhood playground on a length of appr. 25 meters, and all without lifejackets nor safety harnesses in the masts and the rig. But you`re right, there are many good samples for the schoners historic fitting out. Being built and launched as a pilots work ship I`m not sure if there were an engine fitted in the beginning, probably not. The restored current vessel has been equiped with 2 props. Nils
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    Thank you Johann, and enyoy the log as it goes Nils
  25. Mirabell61
    Update. the hull is under way, the frames fit and glued to the keel, stringers are placed and now it is ready for planking.... The frames are made after glueing on the tranparent paper templates to the 2,5 mm thick 5 layers aero-plywood. per good old jig saw cutting preliminary keel and stringers are for aligning the frames in centerline corresponding to the mounting board the third last frame had to be replaced ( here cardboard template) the outcuts for the stringers are 2 x 3 mm and possibly need to be slightly adjusted to straking and fitting the stringers flush with te frame outer contour the wooden baseplate is a leftover of my Pegasus build, provided with new distance logs for the ELBE 5 frames stringers fit to the frames, they are staking quite well and leave minimal touchup trimming. The keel will be brought to shape at a later time there are two slots in the keel that take up the spindles of the pedastels later on. To allow sufficient countering of the spindles above the keel there are logs glued in between the appropriate frames I fitted 14 frames at a distance of 40 mm. Here can be seen how filigrane the contstruction is. I use watertight white glue The brass the two brass pedestals made for old candle holders (flea market) and the zinc galvanised M3 spindles The braced on short U-profiles take up the keel.

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