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Wood glue
Don Case replied to H March's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
I was gluing the inner and outer sternpost together using Tightbond and immediately after clamping I noticed they were slightly misaligned. I took the clamps off and I couldn't move the parts. I had to pry them apart with my knife. I'm guessing that if the wood is porous enough(Hazel in this case) it sucks the water out and makes a fast joint. I wouldn't depend on it but it did surprise me. -
Wood glue
Don Case replied to H March's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Perfect, I'll go out and buy a quart😉 -
Wood glue
Don Case replied to H March's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
If I can tack this on here. I've read that Isopropyl Alcohol will dissolve PVA. Will it also work on Tight Bond and yellow carpenters glue? -
Dead flat stations
Don Case replied to Don Case's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
OK I'll run with that and see how it works. -
Dead flat stations
Don Case replied to Don Case's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
I managed to get hold of someone at the Vancouver Maritime Museum today. Apparently their archivist left a month ago and they just hired a new one. They start in a week or two. My e-mails have been sitting in someones inbox. Once I get my hands on John Mckay's drawings I think I'll feel better. It will be nice to have figured this out by myself(with you guys help) though. -
Dead flat stations
Don Case replied to Don Case's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
OK there must be at least one station hiding under that outside line. I count 20 stations on the half breadth and 19 on the body plan. Looks like the middle three are either identical or close to it. Is the 0 (double line) station on the left or right side of the body plan? Or is it on both? I'm getting close, I can feel it🙂 -
Dead flat stations
Don Case replied to Don Case's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Ahh, so if there was no change in the shape of a station they would just leave it off the drawing. It wasn't necessary for anything. Did I get it this time? -
Dead flat stations
Don Case replied to Don Case's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
OK I'm obviously still confused about what the deadflat is and how the bracketed stations relate to it. I'll do some reading and see if I can sort myself out. I'm making a set of station shadows to just get an idea of what the hull is shaped like. I started at the stern and have done 5 stations when I glue them to a board a batten doesn't lay nice on them. The stations are close together for the aft 2-3 stations and then the spacing doubles. I'm thinking that if I have the wrong spacing in the wrong place it could explain that. I have no labeling on the body plan and they are very blurry on the profile. If I knew for sure how many stations there were I could sort it out -
Dead flat stations
Don Case replied to Don Case's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
OK I was confused, I thought what you posted was the Discovery. OK back to the bracketed stations I can be awfully thick at times. -
Dead flat stations
Don Case replied to Don Case's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
That would solve it but I thought that any stations in brackets (like (D)) were part of the dead flat. You can't really see the brackets but there is also a drawing by John McKay that shows bracketed stations and they match with the drawing you posted. Edit - I just took a better look and your drawing doesn't show any bracketed stations. Would you have a link you would share?😃 Hang on- the picture you posted is for the Dorsetshire Am I confused or what?🙂 -
Dead flat stations
Don Case replied to Don Case's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
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I'm looking at future planking of the aft deadwood to figure out how to taper the deadwood into the rabbet. Should the rabbet be very wide, like starting at the bottom of the frames and extend all the way to the keel? Can I just make the deadwood narrower than the keel so the planking lays right or should the planks be right tight against the deadwood (fayed?)? Also I was looking at Dan's Vulture build and noticed this little jog in the garboard plank. Why is it there? HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - 1:48 scale - 16 gun "Swan" class sloop from TFFM plans - Finished - Page 4 - - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800 - Model Ship World™ Post #113
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I have decided to build a steam box.
Don Case replied to Osmosis's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
One thing I learned about wooden steam boxes is don't get silly with quality, especially if you use plywood. They delaminate after a while. Close joints are a waste of time, you need a good flow of steam anyway. The first one I made I did a primo job, all glued and nailed and tight. After a few months it was all warped and peeled. -
I was getting the stern post dimensions from Steel and I couldn't find the length. It was very detailed about all other dimensions but no length. Would it be somewhere else? I can get the length from the plans I have but it just seems rather strange that I can't find it in Steel. I even measured it on the plans(it's 19') and looked for any 19' measurement in Steel and couldn't find one. I could find the wing transom height above the keel but it's down a bit from the top of the stern post.
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Joinery
Don Case replied to Maury S's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
That is amazing! Is it from a particular nationality? it would take forever to build a house. -
Thanks guys. When I was designing ang building IOM's we would put "rocker" in a boat for more maneuverability. It was much the same a sag but deliberate. I just assumed that they may do the same thing. My Oxford glossary lumps the three (deadwood, rising wood and hog) together but does have the arrows pointing to different spots🙂
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Thank you Mark. Gradually the vocabulary is coming. Deadrise sounded familiar but it wasn't until the second read that it popped into my head. I just read about chocks this afternoon. A question about something related to deadrise is what I would call "rocker". Fore and aft "deadrise". If indeed one of these ships had any rocker would they get it with deadwood(hog, rising wood) that tapered toward the center.
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Yedlinski is too expensive for me. It would be about $70Can with freight and exchange. I was looking in Steel at the "fine print", italics in mine, and I had more or less convinced myself that that must be the depth but Longridge's pictures confused me a bit. I'll keep that in mind. I'm finding that Steel's glossary and the Oxford glossary help a lot. I'll try not to be a nuisance🙂
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I was looking in the Oxford glossary and it is saying(I think) that the "moulded" dimension is the dimension that a pattern or "mould" would indicate. So if you make a pattern of a frame it can only show two dimensions, length and depth. Does that sound right? I still can't find it in the scantlings sheet.
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Proud owner of a Dremmel drill stand
Don Case replied to DaveBaxt's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
In years of arrow making I found that chucking up the arrow in a drill and using sandpaper to round it usually ended up with an oval shaft. The edge grain resists the sandpaper. A little practice with a shooting board and a block plane usually produced better results. Edit- chucking up the shaft in a drill motor and then holding it against a belt sander produces pretty good result but quite often the chuck on the drill loses grip and you fire the shaft across the shop. It's amazing how far they will go. -
There I go going off half cocked again😳 Seems the older I get the less tolerant I am of perceived hassles. I apologise for that and I'll try to control it in the future. I found Dave Steel's Elements and Practices in free E-book on Google books. It's the 1812 version(if there is others), will that work for late 1700's? Is Google books on the bad list? I now have Longridge and Steel. I think that if there is anything that I can't find in those two I'll just guess at it.
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