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Thunder got a reaction from Scottish Guy in Cutty Sark by rkre88 - Academy - 1:150 - PLASTIC
looks like you were making a great job and looks saveable to me.
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Thunder got a reaction from ccoyle in HMS Cruiser by Thunder - FINISHED - Caldercraft - 1:64 Scale
Final photographs. Just a few minor tidy ups to do so as far as here is concerned this build is complete. Base board for stand made out of an offcut from when i did my skirting boards. Brass plaque was from Engraving World
https://engravingworld.co.uk/brass.html?p=2
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Thunder got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in What are the best detailed plastic models?
My advice would be to pick up the airfix Victory, Mayflower or Cutty sark and have a search for the guide books written by Noel C L Hackney that went with them. You then get a thorough guide to building with suggested modifications to improve. You also get full rigging plans and a method of completing the rigging for any ship going forward. If you get all three books then you get a guide for the three main era's of sail history. I still use these methods even with my wooden models.
My favourite model was Airfix's Bounty. Not because of itss accuracy but it provided the best basics for a real good kit bash.
I will try and get some photos on when I get home.
Thunder.
Here are the Photographs, The victory is a kit I built 20 years ago using the book below:
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Thunder got a reaction from shipman in What are the best detailed plastic models?
My advice would be to pick up the airfix Victory, Mayflower or Cutty sark and have a search for the guide books written by Noel C L Hackney that went with them. You then get a thorough guide to building with suggested modifications to improve. You also get full rigging plans and a method of completing the rigging for any ship going forward. If you get all three books then you get a guide for the three main era's of sail history. I still use these methods even with my wooden models.
My favourite model was Airfix's Bounty. Not because of itss accuracy but it provided the best basics for a real good kit bash.
I will try and get some photos on when I get home.
Thunder.
Here are the Photographs, The victory is a kit I built 20 years ago using the book below:
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Thunder got a reaction from mtaylor in HM Cutter Speedy 1828 by oakheart - from plans drawn by Bill Shoulders in 1972
Hi Tim,
Mine had the leading edge angled for a third then the centre portion rounded if that makes sense. Rudder slightly tapers aft but only the lower, wider section. The top section is the same thickness through out. As shown, the rudder does not reach all the way down to the bottom of the keel, believe to try to prevent being unhinged if the ship touched the ground.
sorry for slow reply.
Adrian
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Thunder got a reaction from mtaylor in OcCre HMS Victory Limited edition
Always concerns me, with regards to attention to detail, when the kit company does not realise what way the flags would be pointing when under sail!
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Thunder got a reaction from mtaylor in OcCre HMS Victory Limited edition
If you are going to do frames at least make it look something like. Those frame spacings would probably be ok for a merchant man but no ship of war had spacing like that.
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Thunder got a reaction from allanyed in OcCre HMS Victory Limited edition
If you are going to do frames at least make it look something like. Those frame spacings would probably be ok for a merchant man but no ship of war had spacing like that.
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Thunder got a reaction from allanyed in OcCre HMS Victory Limited edition
Always concerns me, with regards to attention to detail, when the kit company does not realise what way the flags would be pointing when under sail!
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Thunder got a reaction from Canute in OcCre HMS Victory Limited edition
Always concerns me, with regards to attention to detail, when the kit company does not realise what way the flags would be pointing when under sail!
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Thunder got a reaction from Canute in OcCre HMS Victory Limited edition
If you are going to do frames at least make it look something like. Those frame spacings would probably be ok for a merchant man but no ship of war had spacing like that.
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Thunder got a reaction from oakheart in HM Cutter Speedy 1828 by oakheart - from plans drawn by Bill Shoulders in 1972
Hi Tim,
Mine had the leading edge angled for a third then the centre portion rounded if that makes sense. Rudder slightly tapers aft but only the lower, wider section. The top section is the same thickness through out. As shown, the rudder does not reach all the way down to the bottom of the keel, believe to try to prevent being unhinged if the ship touched the ground.
sorry for slow reply.
Adrian
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Thunder got a reaction from oakheart in Chris Watton and Vanguard Models news and updates Volume 2
I have kept this class of vessel in mind since 2003 when model boats magazine issued free plans of 'Blazer' drawn by Peter Danks.
Looks like a great kit
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Thunder got a reaction from Canute in Chris Watton and Vanguard Models news and updates Volume 2
I have kept this class of vessel in mind since 2003 when model boats magazine issued free plans of 'Blazer' drawn by Peter Danks.
Looks like a great kit
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Thunder got a reaction from mtaylor in Chris Watton and Vanguard Models news and updates Volume 2
I have kept this class of vessel in mind since 2003 when model boats magazine issued free plans of 'Blazer' drawn by Peter Danks.
Looks like a great kit
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Thunder got a reaction from thibaultron in Chris Watton and Vanguard Models news and updates Volume 2
I have kept this class of vessel in mind since 2003 when model boats magazine issued free plans of 'Blazer' drawn by Peter Danks.
Looks like a great kit
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Thunder got a reaction from AJohnson in Chris Watton and Vanguard Models news and updates Volume 2
I have kept this class of vessel in mind since 2003 when model boats magazine issued free plans of 'Blazer' drawn by Peter Danks.
Looks like a great kit
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Thunder got a reaction from chris watton in Chris Watton and Vanguard Models news and updates Volume 2
I have kept this class of vessel in mind since 2003 when model boats magazine issued free plans of 'Blazer' drawn by Peter Danks.
Looks like a great kit
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Thunder got a reaction from Old Collingwood in What plastic ship kits have you done?
I can almost smell that humbrol paint just looking at them!
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Thunder got a reaction from Old Collingwood in What plastic ship kits have you done?
Airfix:
Wasa
Great western
Victory
Golden hind
St Louis
Discovery
Revenge
Bounty
Cutty Sark
Heller:
Superbe
La Sirene
Phenix
Spanish Gallion
Thonier Armor
La Tartane
Revell:
Mayflower
Constitution
Thermopylea
Golden Hind
Flying Dutchman
Hans Kogge
Batavia
Santa Maria
Pyro:
Dutch Staten Jacht
Half Moon
Bon homme Richard
Venetian Carrack
Roman Merchant
Imia:
Roman Warship
Greek Warship
Plus a Russian 60 gun ship kit 'Priedisjinctua'
To Build or part built, Airfix sovereign, Prince, Cutty Sark and mayflower, Pyro's La Reale and Alliance, Revell's Great Eastern
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Thunder got a reaction from Canute in Cutting strips with Byrnes saw.....Strips start out fine then they thin.
Thanks all, great information. I have the same issue on my Proxxon FET and assumed it was a fault of the saw. However, practice cuts with lime and oak were fine. When started to cut the boxwood, brought specially for my build, had horrible issues. I did make a blade change which helped a little but am limited with choice of blades with the Proxxon.
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Thunder got a reaction from mtaylor in HM Cutter Speedy 1828 by oakheart - from plans drawn by Bill Shoulders in 1972
I think that will look better than the regular spaced shrouds and have seen exactly like that in some sources.
I would always try to get the straps down to the wale if possible.
I would still say that this is a good representation of speedy. Items of rig would change through a ships life as captains changed things to try and get a better trim and improve sailing quality.
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Thunder got a reaction from mtaylor in HM Cutter Speedy 1828 by oakheart - from plans drawn by Bill Shoulders in 1972
Remember the shrouds do not have to be equally spaced, the first one should be in line with the mast but the others would be spaced tosuit the gunport so can make that gap larger if necessary if would interfere with the gunport lid.
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Thunder got a reaction from mtaylor in HM Cutter Speedy 1828 by oakheart - from plans drawn by Bill Shoulders in 1972
Hi,
I am thinking that could possibly get away with just moving the belaying racks and then making sure you space the shrouds / deadeyes so they do not end up in front of the gun port. Looking at mine those belaying racks look a little forward anyway.
The cutter is a nice rig to complete just worth noting that Bill Shoulder got the bowsprit rigging incorrect, i think i mentioned it in my log.
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Thunder got a reaction from mtaylor in HM Cutter Speedy 1828 by oakheart - from plans drawn by Bill Shoulders in 1972
Hi Tim,
Finally caught up with your build, and it is looking great. However, just wanted to jump in to avoid a potential issue regarding the gunport positions. Are you going to make the deck layout match the gunports? My concern is that the position of the belaying pins is arranged either side of the gunport. You will have to move these aft to match. If you have to do the same with the chain plates, external to the hull, then this will effect the shrouds. You will then have to move the mast back to match. It does then mean the bits and gratings at the base of the mast will need to move. Just wanted to make sure you considered this now rather than find it when you get to the rigging stage.
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