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Great post. Thanks. You hit it. I did attempt as you describe previous to my post. Fear kept me from shaving off to much. Planks are plentiful and cheap if I run out so I will add you suggestion to my procedure -
We may very well have. I don't remember which is part of my issue. I don't retain things as well as I would like. Nothing for it at this point. I took your advice this time and bought two clamps like in your photo. I should have bought three. I didn't think I had to worry about bending the second strake. I see that I do. I learned. My next chore and don't laugh to hard was figuring which way to bend it. Also, what point on the strake I begin the bend and how much bend to put in it. Through trial and error, error and error I bent it the right way and what now appears the correct amount. Thank You so much for your advice and patience.
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One of the best comments ever. Thanks
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The garboard is installed on both sides. I am fitting the next plank up. In the series of pictures my problem is evident. I cut the front of the strake from the plans using my logic, LOL. It fits rather nice but the strake will not butt against the garboard without it being raised (it's raised more than the picture shows) as seen in picture four. That is either because I need to fair the bulkhead more (I do) but that doesn't mean it's my sole issue. If I don't fit the front of strake two into the rabbet it will lie flat and butt against the garboard nicely. I have done a lot of sanding, filing, scraping and bending in many directions. The problem has been decreased but not eliminated. At this point I don't know which I should be concentrating on. The problem may very well have arisen from my previous shoddy work and not some cut I just made. If more bending is called for fine if more fairing is called for fine. I just don't know which. What would you recommend I do at this point? Besides get out the matches :-) Thanks Pictures 1 and 2 go together as do 3 and 4
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Two strakes of planking. I have been dry fitting two stakes on top each side and one at the garboard both sides and the one above the garboard strake. I move back and forth which may not be good practice. I do it because I don't want to overdue anyone piece which I have found is a shortcoming of mine. If I leave something for a day and come back to it I can see it in a different light and realize something like...no more off here, it needs to come off here. I have found that a problem may not be originating from where I think it is. For example: the plank doesn't need to be any thinner that groove it is going into needs to be deeper. I can also be really unclear when asking questions even with a proofread. I have been keeping bottom strakes as straight as I can so they don't ride up the stem. I hope I answered your question. And thanks for asking
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If I was sitting at a long table crafting this model with others I would want you sitting next to me. This is the kind of advice I need. Symmetry...It seems so logical now that I know. Thanks Man.
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I have the bottom two starboard garboard planks fit as good as I can do. It's not bad and I don't want to over correct. So, my question...should I attach them permanent OR should I get the two port garboard planks ready to go first. Either way I don't see that it matters....What do you do?
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Looks Great Man
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The bulkheads on the pinnace are very thin. I used tape to get the length of my paper strip as exact as I could. I did not attempt tape to hold the tick strip because I thought the bulkhead to thin for my dexterity level. I will look into doing just that though. Thank You
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It makes sense to me. Learning a skill is not the same as putting it into practice. With your help I am moving on and Thank You.
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I know how to use the planking fan and create the tick marks. What I find real hard is transferring the tick marks from the paper to the bulkhead cause they are so thin and I find holding everything still a problem. Has anyone else had this issue and what did you do ? Thanks
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Thanks for the in situ heat and water tip. When I thought of it, since it was my idea, I thought it goofy. Now that I see you doing it I tried it and it helps.
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GREAT!! This is the kind of guidance and pictures I need. Thanks Professor!!
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My problem at this time is making the clips we all see in the posts. They are easy to put together the problem is making them so they work for me on this model. Mine are too loose. I have thought all along and still believe I can final attach the planks with CA and holding but I would rather not. The clips would also serve for dry fitting each plank as accurately as possible . I could see where additions and subtractions to the bulkhead will be needed. If any of you Mavens can send some clues my way regarding clip production and usage that would speed me along. Thanks. More Info: I have not achieved a tight fit using two different brands of clips. I am using the smallest I can find I also have larger ones and my one attempt (with what I would call a midsize) was not satisfactory.
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I was looking at the parts list. There are six 1/32 x 3/16 x14 " planks and thirty four of the 1/32 x 3/16 x 12". Did you use the 14" for your first strake? Also, in some of your pics I see some CA glue. Which of those did you use to attach the planks. Are you glad you used that one or would another have been preferable now that your done. Thanks
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Forming a garboard
rudybob replied to rudybob's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
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I am building the Model Shipways Pinnace. There is a log at this site but I wanted to ask the question here. The garboard (along with most else) has been vexing me. Today while looking at the plan sheet I thought maybe this would work to give me as good a garboard as possible. I laid a strake on the plan and traced (2D I know) how it would lie on the model. I then xatco cut the line where it would attach and slipped the strake through the back. I have an instant and pretty exact angle which makes my life easier. I realize there will be some twist in the garboard but can't see any reason this isn't a good idea. OF COURSE, I have had plenty a good ideas. LOL. So I wished to ask the group where I am going wrong. Thanks
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On this model I promised myself I would work on it daily if at all possible. One day off can turn into a week far to easy then I forget what I had been thinking and planning. A few days back I was looking at the included directions and I saw one of the strakes bent around a bottle cap. I grabbed a Vernor's bottle cap and it matched the bow curve pretty well. I held that cap up to the plans and marked that cap in a matching arc. It fits pretty well. Good tip there. At least for the top strake the length and bend can be taken directly from the plans. I scanned the sheet and now have something I can cut and from the cut picture I can make a jig to get my top strake bends as accurate as I can. Everything flows from the initial build and since I have done such a poor job to this point I want my top strakes as accurate as possible. I will spend the time to see if my scheme bears results. I don't like wasting time and this may end up as wasted time but I won't know that until I try. Time to watch hockey and eat brownies
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Great Tips! I will see what I can do with rubber bands. I have had no luck with the clips. Thanks
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Hello. Doing a build log requires time which I have. I don't know about my skill level at writing or building except to write it isn't there yet, if ever. I do enjoy both and and want to advance my abilities with each project, whatever media. I did a build log on an airplane once and I found it wanting at the end. I will do better here.
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Looks like an informative place. Great Just Great
rudybob replied to rudybob's topic in New member Introductions
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Gotta tell ya Man. Your build is great but what I really appreciate is your presentation. You are clear and concise. I am working on the same kit and you have answered the questions I had that I was having difficulty finding. I am getting ready to plank. I took your advice and am glueing in extra wood between the frames to stop flexing. Did you ever apply CA to damp wood during your build?
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