Ferrus Manus
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Your cleat knots and rope coils are the best I've seen in a while. Better than mine!! Good job, Isaiah!- 177 replies
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I am thinking I will start the design work for the frames soon. I have looked at various builds of 18th/19th century longboats, which the hull shape is most similar to. I have come up with a general pattern of frame design, based mostly on the longboats of the era. Hopefully, however, we will end up with a unique hull shape.
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At this point you're almost done with your brig, so I wouldn't have you change anything. However, for future reference, the rigging instructions for model ships are generally wrong, sometimes egregiously so. The rigging on beginner kits is sometimes simplified to the point of absurdity or complete non-functionality.
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Upon reading the rigging instructions for your Perseverance, I can definitively say that you should have thrown them away and went with what other people have been doing on the rigging of their brigs. Soon, you will develop the instinct to know what correct/incorrect rigging looks like.
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This is a pilot cutter with turnbuckles used on the shrouds. Note the main wale and the pseudo-channels that hold the shrouds away from the hull. This will likely be what I use on this boat. I might use painted styrene for the straps, but I have not decided yet.
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At this point in history, at least on large ships, turnbuckles would have been used for the shrouds. Would they also have been used for the bowsprit gear? Would deadeyes still have been used on small boats in 1899?
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Another area of note: the hull was not designed in the late-1800's style, with the straight-vertical bow and the sloping stern. The design for the hull was based largely off ship's boats from the late 18th/early 19th centuries, and pilot cutters of the era used that same hull shape. However, as a later pilot cutter, this design will include more iron strapping and a deck plan more suited to late-19th century cutters.
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This is the oyster smack Lizzie Annie, a boat of a similar size to the Devin Collins. This showcases an alternative rig for the vessel, as well as some of the core rigging principles that will be employed. Note the fact that the bowsprit makes up about a third of the total length of the ship, as well as the lack of a topsail. The Devin Collins, as a pilot cutter, will need the topsail as well as the flying jib. Pilot cutters raced for the privilege of offering their services to large ships in the Bristol Channel, necessitating the obscenely large sail area.
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This would have been a pilot cutter, a ship that would have needed a large sail area for the displacement, and would have been relatively small and compact. However, this vessel is not based on any particular design of ship, the reasoning of which we will get into later. Yes. I have designed another wood model, but I soon realized I would need experience. This boat has a relatively simple shape and deck plan, as well as simple masting. Most importantly, however, there are ample references.
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@Louie da fly @Wawona59 @Knocklouder @Isaiah I saved you guys seats, popcorn and drinks are free.
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Welcome to this build log. If you're wondering what happened to the Queen Elizabeth galleon, I have postponed that build in order to do this. This will be a scratchbuild made mostly of wood, and I already have some comprehensive full-scale plans made. Remember Don, the man referenced in my Senora Fielden research log? Well, this is for him and his wife. Both are good friends of mine, and Don has seen the designs. My main goal in posting this log considerably before I plan on making sawdust is that I want to iron out some of the questions in procedure and perhaps design. This is the original prototype of the cutter build. While the arrangement of the deck will be considerably different, the hull shape and rig are functionally the same. The final length of the ship (bowsprit to spanker) will be around 3 feet, while the height is somewhere around 4 feet. The rig is subject to change. These are the plans as they are:
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Just wait til you see the Vasa he finished! His builds are definitely some of the best on the forum, and that's before you realize the insanely tiny scale.
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Remember, this is a 1/600 scale model. Most modelers wouldn't even attempt the lines, which already puts your model far above most others.
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Now, onto the next issue: the rudder preventer configuration. I used a complex chain configuration on the Spanish Galleon, but none on the Golden Hinde. The truth is, almost none of the period artworks depict rudder preventers on any of the ships. So, your guess is as good as any other. However, I have an idea. I might be able to put an eyebolt into the bottom of one of the knees holding up the stern gallery. See my original Golden Hinde build for a look at what I'm talking about. This eyebolt could be the end point for the rudder preventer.
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Thank you both for the ideas. I will likely attempt to print the design on the silkspan.
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Anyway, does anyone know a technique to put decals on silkspan? Remember, silkspan is a flexible material upon which decals might crack. I plan to put "E R" regalia on the mainsail, perhaps along with a Tudor Rose.
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The idea is, eventually, to have a Fleet Admiral in charge of the shipyard. This build might, potentially, be a step in getting one of my own.
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Is this a fluyt or a separate type of ship?
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I think your Canberra looks about as good as it possibly could, given the fact that plastic putty is notoriously hard to work with.
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I am aware that fluyts, jachts, pinnaces and other Dutch ships are regularly depicted in his paintings, however, many of the large galleons Vroom paints under the Dutch flag look similar to the Spanish ships.
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I will admit that the Spanish ship looks slightly blockier and less streamlined than the Dutch ships. However, I think my point stands.
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I know that, but to me (and probably most other members of MSW) you might as well be Matthew Baker himself.
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This is a smaller Dutch galleon that would have been around the size of the Queen Elizabeth: Note that small ships still engaged in close-up duels at this time period, necessitating the use of anti-boarding and anti-small arms measures:
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This is an English two-decker that would reasonably have been able to use broadside-and-board tactics. Notice the close-up sparring match between the English and Spanish ship, that will probably result in one or both parties trying to board the other.
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