Ferrus Manus
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This is a pilot cutter with turnbuckles used on the shrouds. Note the main wale and the pseudo-channels that hold the shrouds away from the hull. This will likely be what I use on this boat. I might use painted styrene for the straps, but I have not decided yet. -
At this point in history, at least on large ships, turnbuckles would have been used for the shrouds. Would they also have been used for the bowsprit gear? Would deadeyes still have been used on small boats in 1899?
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Another area of note: the hull was not designed in the late-1800's style, with the straight-vertical bow and the sloping stern. The design for the hull was based largely off ship's boats from the late 18th/early 19th centuries, and pilot cutters of the era used that same hull shape. However, as a later pilot cutter, this design will include more iron strapping and a deck plan more suited to late-19th century cutters.
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This is the oyster smack Lizzie Annie, a boat of a similar size to the Devin Collins. This showcases an alternative rig for the vessel, as well as some of the core rigging principles that will be employed. Note the fact that the bowsprit makes up about a third of the total length of the ship, as well as the lack of a topsail. The Devin Collins, as a pilot cutter, will need the topsail as well as the flying jib. Pilot cutters raced for the privilege of offering their services to large ships in the Bristol Channel, necessitating the obscenely large sail area.
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This would have been a pilot cutter, a ship that would have needed a large sail area for the displacement, and would have been relatively small and compact. However, this vessel is not based on any particular design of ship, the reasoning of which we will get into later. Yes. I have designed another wood model, but I soon realized I would need experience. This boat has a relatively simple shape and deck plan, as well as simple masting. Most importantly, however, there are ample references.
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@Louie da fly @Wawona59 @Knocklouder @Isaiah I saved you guys seats, popcorn and drinks are free.
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Welcome to this build log. If you're wondering what happened to the Queen Elizabeth galleon, I have postponed that build in order to do this. This will be a scratchbuild made mostly of wood, and I already have some comprehensive full-scale plans made. Remember Don, the man referenced in my Senora Fielden research log? Well, this is for him and his wife. Both are good friends of mine, and Don has seen the designs. My main goal in posting this log considerably before I plan on making sawdust is that I want to iron out some of the questions in procedure and perhaps design. This is the original prototype of the cutter build. While the arrangement of the deck will be considerably different, the hull shape and rig are functionally the same. The final length of the ship (bowsprit to spanker) will be around 3 feet, while the height is somewhere around 4 feet. The rig is subject to change. These are the plans as they are:
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Just wait til you see the Vasa he finished! His builds are definitely some of the best on the forum, and that's before you realize the insanely tiny scale.
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Remember, this is a 1/600 scale model. Most modelers wouldn't even attempt the lines, which already puts your model far above most others.
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Now, onto the next issue: the rudder preventer configuration. I used a complex chain configuration on the Spanish Galleon, but none on the Golden Hinde. The truth is, almost none of the period artworks depict rudder preventers on any of the ships. So, your guess is as good as any other. However, I have an idea. I might be able to put an eyebolt into the bottom of one of the knees holding up the stern gallery. See my original Golden Hinde build for a look at what I'm talking about. This eyebolt could be the end point for the rudder preventer.
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Thank you both for the ideas. I will likely attempt to print the design on the silkspan.
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Anyway, does anyone know a technique to put decals on silkspan? Remember, silkspan is a flexible material upon which decals might crack. I plan to put "E R" regalia on the mainsail, perhaps along with a Tudor Rose.
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The idea is, eventually, to have a Fleet Admiral in charge of the shipyard. This build might, potentially, be a step in getting one of my own.
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Is this a fluyt or a separate type of ship?
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I think your Canberra looks about as good as it possibly could, given the fact that plastic putty is notoriously hard to work with.
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I am aware that fluyts, jachts, pinnaces and other Dutch ships are regularly depicted in his paintings, however, many of the large galleons Vroom paints under the Dutch flag look similar to the Spanish ships.
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I will admit that the Spanish ship looks slightly blockier and less streamlined than the Dutch ships. However, I think my point stands.
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I know that, but to me (and probably most other members of MSW) you might as well be Matthew Baker himself.
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This is a smaller Dutch galleon that would have been around the size of the Queen Elizabeth: Note that small ships still engaged in close-up duels at this time period, necessitating the use of anti-boarding and anti-small arms measures:
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This is an English two-decker that would reasonably have been able to use broadside-and-board tactics. Notice the close-up sparring match between the English and Spanish ship, that will probably result in one or both parties trying to board the other.
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I also don't know how useful Vroom's paintings would be in this situation. He tended to paint the massive Dutch and Spanish two- and three-deckers in his paintings. However, almost all of the Dutch ships seem to be built in the Spanish design, being huge galleons designed to pound the enemy into submission before boarding and destroying whatever was left. This was not how the English built ships. The English vessels were designed to sit just outside the range of Spanish guns and fire volley after volley until the enemy gave up. This doctrine of naval engagement leads me to believe a race-built ship would not have needed waistcloth.
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This is Matthew Baker's design for a race-built galleon. Notice the fact that this ship is much larger than the Queen Elizabeth would be. The communication port near the waterline is possible owing to the ship's size, and such a feature would be far too close to the waterline to exist on my ship. Also, would a smaller ship participating in the Battle of Gravelines (or similar engagement) have used waistcloth?
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Part 2: Digging In This is a photo of my completed Golden Hinde. You should remember this if you've been a long-time viewer of my build logs. As I was building this model, I ended up noticing multiple historical inaccuracies. For one thing, the Golden Hinde might not have even looked like this. In Wikipedia's records, it was armed with 22 guns of different types. This ship is armed with 12 guns. In fact, the Golden Hinde was probably not even a race-built ship as is depicted here. For a 1965 kit, it holds up to scrutiny however. That being said, calling it the Golden Hinde might be a fallacy. There is also the issue of the belaying pins. Baker told me as I was well underway with the running rigging that English ships didn't start incorporating belaying pins until over a century after the Golden Hinde sailed. Plus, let's face it- with the skill and knowledge I have today, I could do a lot better on this kit. For one thing, the entirety of the shroud assemblies could be scratch-built. Secondly, the majority of the rigging and sails do not hold up to my current skillset, and the anchors and flags are the same way. I would like to significantly improve the paintwork as well. While the paint job is relatively good looking even now, I have better paints and brushes than I had then. I also have better tools and fittings. That leads me to my plan, and this build log. I will not touch the original Golden Hinde. However, I will order the Heller version of this kit and do that. I am planning on doing all my normal work on the ship, while paying special attention to the paint, sails, and rigging. I plan on making silkspan sails, putting decals on the sails, staining the rigging (something Kirill told me I should do) as well as making general improvements. This is still just a plan, and I haven't even ordered the kit yet. However, it would be nice to have some company while I work on what is hopefully going to be my best model yet. I plan on portraying this ship as a small galleon of the English fleet that went up against the Spanish Armada in 1588, and yes it is named after someone I know, but for official records, the name Queen Elizabeth comes from the English tradition of naming ships after the reigning monarch at the time. There were two ships in the Elizabethan Navy bearing her name (The Elizabeth Jonas and the Elizabeth Bonaventure) so this name is historically plausible. For now, this is a research log.
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