Ferrus Manus
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Your blood pressure cuff might be the most important tool in this build.- 90 replies
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By the way, we're long past the point of being able to haul it across the room in a fit of anger and have everything be mostly fine. That literal ship has figuratively sailed.
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The things i have gotten done are as follows: The rudder, the uprights for the castles, the transversal crossbeams for the sterncastle, the dry-fitting of the mast, and the installation of the proto-bowsprits. These are the beitasses, or sail stretchers, from the original kit. They were used by Vikings as a way to open a sail up for the wind. Landstrom depicts them as taking on a second use over the centuries, as a form of proto-bowsprit for receiving the bowlines.
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A lot of the castles of Landstrom's nefs seem to show the ladders leaning up against the front of the castle- no hole. Thank you for the Dhow image. The withy Woodrat got was in 1:32 scale, this is 1:50- quite a bit smaller. Stick around! Major update in less than an hour. PS I meant to say windlass!!
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Alright. I was going to make two square openings in the castles for the ladders, but that is going to be an issue, and here's why. The forecastle is two small for a hole. A hole (say, 2x2 feet) would considerably reduce the amount of standing space there is on a castle. And on the sterncastle, the hole would mean that the ladder goes right through the arc of the tiller swing.
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the first Mediterranean ship, or the first ship at all?
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I'm fumbling with card and attempting a partial scratchbuild in the next log over. Feel free to pop in if you don't mind! I would love to see and hear from you.
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I have actually never made a ladder before, but i can do it without a jig. I don't think i'll ruin it. (famous last words)
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I did this one just for you, Steven. The lovely girl in the background of the first picture is the Queen Elizabeth. (English Man O' War)
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Alrighty. This is the deck: I wanted to install a lot of the deck details before i glued the deck in. I added 22 eyebolts in 3 sizes, as well as 5 cleats. I will probably wait on the receiving block for the halyard until the deck is in. The only other significant piece of deck furniture is the capstan, which i have a plan for. What's with all those small eyebolts in the front? Glad you asked. Those are the rings used to lift up the removable planks, which, in the Middle Ages, are what you use in order to gain access to the below deck area. There are a grand total of 8 removable planks, and two eyes per plank.
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Granted, this particular model has many modern elements to it. However, the mast is about the same thickness as what we see on a contemporary artwork, shown here:
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With as shallow a draft as the boat has, the thick mast could potentially make it top-heavy. The rigging is designed to take the strain of the wind in the sail, so the mast does not have to be that thick. Take a look at another type of ship from around this time-period: This is the same type of vessel that ferried the Apostle Paul to Rome. Notice how spindly the mast is on this one. That is possible because the enormous backstay takes almost the entirety of the strain of the wind pushing on the sail. These ships appear on mosaics frequently.
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I think it needs to be a little bit thinner. However, the height is okay. I love how his name is Peter! Someone get him a fishing net.
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The rudder that they gave me in the kit looks a bit sad. Let's change that! First order of business was to drill two holes in the rudder: the smaller one at the bottom is for the uphaul, and the larger one in the middle is to replace the plastic attachment with something more accurate. Now, these rudders were not, actually, attached with regular rope. The rope would, upon getting wet, weaken and stretch. So, they used withies (a flexible piece of green wood). However, i do not have a withy. However, tarred rope would not have the issues regular hemp would upon contact with water. So, that is what i did. Also, the tiller was looking pretty half-assed. So, i drilled a hole and made a new one. Here is the finished rudder: Now, the sharp-eyed folks will notice the aft raised portion of the deck lying in the background. Notice the three holes in it. These are in lieu of an actual frame to connect the rudder rope to. Even better, i can manually adjust it using tweezers! I was disappointed in the fact that i had to install it now instead of being able to save it for the very end. However, the fact that we have now replaced all the plastic attachment points with rope, means that we can abuse the crap out of it for the rest of the build and nothing will snap. I just need to make some kind of a wedge out of card.
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Alright, guys. This is the finalized paint job for the hull. Yes, there still are a couple more details.
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I cut some more parts from card: the extended stem and stern posts, and the stanchions for one of the ladders.
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Also, in my opinion, the guy climbing up the backstay in the Winchelsea image is just bad seamanship. Why not unfurl the yard while it's resting on the deck? Also, why put unnecessary strain on the rigging by climbing it? Why, also, make the lives of the people hauling on the windlass harder by, presumably, sitting on the yard? And if you fall? Well, now your ship has one less man to operate it, and your mates have to find a new crew member.
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Okay, as much as i love the date "1197", i will change it.
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Also seriously? I thought the nefs were in use since at least the mid 12th century. If not nefs, then what? Hulks? Round-ships? Iowa-class battleships?
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I've painted the mast step already. Yes, it pains me not to be able to achieve total historical accuracy as well. This is why i said before, that this is something that needs to be a total scratchbuild.
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Already working on one! It's a nef and it's in pre-1500 kit logs.
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I also agree with your comment about the freeboard. This is a ship that really needs to be a complete scratch build, which is why i begrudgingly accepted the fact that the longship-turned-nef would not bear anything more than a passing resemblance to the real thing.
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Thank you for the suggestion. However, i don't think that would be possible for this particular iteration, as i am only scratchbuilding the castles. Like i previously mentioned, this build is not intended to be anything major. However, i would like to keep getting suggestions, because some of them might be possible even given the circumstances. We have never seen the deck of a nef. That being said, we do know where the deck would have been due to the through timbers, which i will fabricate out of card.
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I saw those on someone else's build. I didn't know ancient shipbuilding techniques existed as late as the middle of the 20th century.
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