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@Azzoun That would be great Joshua! It would be fun to have them both moving forward together. I am hoping for no copper and a seamless repair, but we always have options, right. I feel I can get her looking ok again. That side can always face the wall, right? -
Damage now stands at three plank widths. Ugh.
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Fairing the starboard side and... Oooops! The planking ran a little wide. After cutting away everything less than about 1/2 thickness... We'll have to figure something out to make her ship-shape.
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Today is a milestone - the one year anniversary of the Prince's build log. I am super pleased with her progress to date and super thankful for all the support over the last year, from both Model Ship World folks and my local club (San Diego Ship Modelers Guild). Thanks all for your inputs and reactions. Status today is the port side of the hull is fair, the starboard is still in work and the stern is being filled out/shaped and coming along nicely. Photo of port stern filled in and shaped, starboard in work. Also have made a decision on mounting - flat board with single wooden cradle at center - gold nautical fish pedestals fore and aft. I've learned a lot in 12 months - progress continues...
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The metal ring looks alot like a piston ring for an internal combustion engine (motorcycle, lawnmower, small car). If one could find the right size the carriage build would be pretty straightforward? Really cool project and deck planking!
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Sanding has commenced. Any tips or tricks appreciated. Before: After: I also made a little 2" material sample to check my finish ideas. The first half inch is natural wood - then Watco Danish Oil in Natural. The Elmer's Mahogany Wood Filler seems to darken with the oil, which is good. Hoping to final finish with Watco wipe on poly (satin).
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@bobandlucy Indeed!
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Big night tonight - after 21 years of owning this kit - the Whiskey Plank is in!! Before installation: After installation: After reading about the old custom of celebrating the last plank with a drink of whiskey amongst the builders, I couldn't resist the tradition here. So the last plank, or "Whiskey Plank" has been installed. So the port profile: and the starboard... On to the stern. (And we'll see how she fairs with filler and sanding.)
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8/10/2023 - So close! Below is how I am doing the bulwarks to hull interface (will be just covered [1-2 mm] by the wales/rubbing strip).
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From the bottom it looks like progress.
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Who knew planking could take this long!?! I am slow. But progress none the less. 7/29/2023 (Using pushpins as the hull starts to close up.) And messy "tailfeathers" to trim. Hopefully we can do her stern justice. When to do a wedge? The wood will tell you... (It just won't bend anymore! )
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@Bob Cleek Thank you so much for the links to those articles. You have saved me many troubles. I had intended to get some lead shot for cannon balls. Nope. I was going to paint the inside of my bulwarks with water-based acrylic paint. Nope. PVA seems well regarded and stable. It was kind of Mr. Wegner to share his impressive expertise - what an interesting job!! Great links Bob!!
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I guess the better question is, has anyone seen PVA fail on its own over significant periods of time, or is it pretty well time-tested?
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@Bob Cleek - some very interesting alternatives. Never thought about fishing line!! @Roger Pellett - very reassuring!
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If it's not too late to carry on this topic... My model (plank on bulkhead) called for glue and tiny (brass?) nails, with the nail heads ultimately sanded off. To date I have been simply attaching the planks to the bulkhead and the preceding plank with PVA glue alone. I am now considering the longevity of solely using the PVA glue (in abundance). If it has taken me 20 years to build her, I would like her to last at least that long... I fully agree with the statement above, "where one requires strength, archival permanence, or both, I think that it is important to mechanically fasten model parts wherever possible". But what I want to know is, based on experience, how long/well do PVA only plankings hold up over time? R, Steve
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And Joshua - you should post your cannon prototypes in your build log - they would be cool to see!!
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Hey Joshua. Yeah, they came with the kit and I plan to use the kit guns and mounts at this point. They look nice to my eye and center in the gunports well. Not sure how they scale (kit scale says 1:58). The Constructo kit is stylized in many ways - more wood art than scale accuracy. (100+ foot long planks would have been tough to find/use in the 1800's I am told 😜 - that said, the lines look very close to Chapelle's plans - so form is very good, building techniques stylized.) I will probably try to blue the metal sleds, and if that doesn't take maybe just flat or semigloss black. Toying with the idea of Colonial Green on the inner bulwarks.
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Azzoun - I checked out your log to date and it is very inspirational work. I hope you can get back at it and enjoy it as much as I do. She takes a month to do in wood what one could do in plastic in an hour, but I suppose if it was easy it wouldn't be as rewarding. I will follow your PdN build as well and look forward to your progress!! Edit (OK - I went to follow and I have already been following your build since February! Lookin good! )
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The Journey continues with minor progress: June 2, 2023: July 20, 2023: My first attempt at a stealer (The kit's sapely wood is awfully rough and fuzzy!): And more adventures in creative clamping:
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Planking continues slowly but surely. Taking the advice given, I measured the remaining planking runs on the bulkheads in millimeters and obtained the following: The following conclusions: 1. Obviously planks will have to be thinned over the first three bulkheads. 2. The remaining bulkheads vary at this point by the width of only one plank, but will require 14-15 planks to close the hull. (Very minor material removal on each plank on "shorter" bulkheads.) 3. In retrospect, the two dark planks under the gunports would have been a good place to have corrected any planking issues, as they are ultimately covered by the ships bumpers. Unfortunately, I believe strongly in glue and I don't think they are coming off any time soon, at least not in one piece. So planking continues, and just today I had the revelation that I could work on other aspects while the planking glue dries! Creative Clamping 101... Thanks for all the advice to date.
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Is this type of sharp point not recommended because it is not traditionally found in 1:1 ships? I have seen it in several internet examples and it seems a simple solution and difficult to detect unless you are looking for it. Maybe they are generally used on first planking for expediency?
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Thank you @Gregory. I will probably be unable to get wider material as I have only been able to find some from Europe. Limited to current width, I may be able to do the two into three. But the graphics are very helpful. But I guess first I better get some measurements. I really appreciate your advice "don't let 'perfect' be your goal". It allows one to accept some compromise where necessary. We'll see what we can do here. Thanks again!
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@Pirate adam I will take your advice and measure the remaining planking run for each bulkhead and do some math ! Then I can look at some options as well. Til now I have been able to keep my plank runs pretty perpendicular to the horizon. The stern is rising but I thought it would get better after the deadwood. But measurements would make that much clearer!
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Thanks Adam. I think the run on the second bulkhead is very small and want to avoid a bunch of very thin uniform planks at the bow. I wonder if this is my solution (from the NRG half hull project - not my image)? It looks hard to do though!
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In profile I am starting to develop a "smiley face effect", where the planks are riding higher at the bow and stern than in the middle. I have been removing about 1/4 height of each plank at the bow to minimize the effect. I want to avoid a bunch of skinny planks (1/2 width or less) at the bow. Anyone have any thoughts on how to proceed elegantly here? Depending on how she sands I would like to spare myself the second planking - the current planks are 2mm thick.
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