Patrick B

Hi, I haven't posted in some time.

 

This is due to me procrastinating when I should take photos. In the last weeks, I worked on many different small thing on the deck. They didn't seem like worthwhile to make à post about. But when you add them up together, it makes a good chunk to show and talk about.

 

First, I made the rails with eyebolts and rope. It was quite tricky to get the knot at the right place for it to be tight. I also glued the back catheads after removing the char and making pulley holes in them. 

 

 

 

Then, I secured the launch to to deck, and I'm pretty happy about how that turned out. I was unsure about the rope placement after its knot to the eyebolt. I could have done concentric rings of leftover rope, but it looked weird. I chose to leave it clean after the knot.

 

 

 

 As you might already have seen through the earlier photos, I made all the ladders, but I opted to leave them unpainted. I find it too Tricky to paint in all those tiny areas between the steps and I felt like this brass color fits the overall deck ensemble pretty well.

 

After that, I focused on the water pumps. I wanted to give an iron look but I failed and it looks too shiny and plastic. Still, it doesn't look too bad.

 

 

 

To finish off, I nailed the chain plates along the sides. To do that I placed temporarly the masts to get their angle right.

 

 

 

I almost forgot, I also installed the chains at the stern, which drove me crazy. They were so fiddly and kept jumping off from my twizzers.  I lost 3 links and for a good 20 minutes I thought the carpet monster had stolen them but after a while, I found them at the complete opposite side of the room where I thought they were.  Those efforts were rewarded because in the end,  they look great.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for following along guys. The next update will be about the storage compartments on the deck and maybe something else.

 

Patrick

Hi guys, I have a question before gluing a piece in place. Do you know what was the purpose of the beam with a hole in it? I know it has two metal loops to attach some chain, but the hole seem a good place to put a flag pole. The instructions don't show you its purpose and I can't find anything on the internet. I'm sure someone here knows what it is, the time period associated with it, the history of it's name and the specific hole dimensions haha.

 

 

 

Thanks, Patrick B

On 1/12/2024 at 10:27 AM, JFMJr said:

Hello Patrick... My first build..Just starting the HMS Beagle...very helpful following build logs like yours. Looks great

 

Hi JFMJr, I'm happy to hear that my build log will be helpfull. Feel free to ask me questions, but keep in mind that this is my first ship, so I'm in no way an expert. Your planking looks neat, are you planning on making a build log? It still not too late. 

Hi, I missed your start a little, but I will join from now on your build. 

 

I noticed that occre did some changes lately. It seems that your keel is made of presswood instead of the plywood I received in the kit I purchased a year ago. Quick question:

Are your blocks made of boxwood or are they plastic? Also, do you still have a sheet of walnut pieces?

 

Good luck with the rest,

Patrick B

Hi Capella, unlike Chimp, I sanded my first planking flush to the keel, and it looked great!  The only thing is that there is a small gap underneath the bow's decoration but nearly unoticeable.

 

 

The decision is yours.

Cheers, Patrick B

Small update here is a beam that will next be glued on the poop deck. The bend on the CNC machined plywood part was not fitting with my version of the ship. I tried straightening it But it broke in 2 different places. So I replaced it with some leftover wood.  Even after putting it in hot water it wouldn't bend. I decided to cut some slots to facilitate the process and mitigate the risk of breakage.

 

 

In the end, I glued a small veneer strip from leftover wood to cover the holes.

 

 

A bonus of that is that when I will dye it, it will come out the same color as the strips on the side, as it is the same wood as opposed to the plywood part.

 

I hope you guys had a merry holiday filled with time in the shipyard !

Hi Capella, you asked for tips, so here are the most important things I learned while planking, especially true for second planking.

 

Start at the bottom and make your way to the top.

 

 Make sure that any previous plank are exactly the curve you want them to be.  Don't be afraid to take some more time to send the edges or else the small errors will end up being harder to correct afterwards. Think of it as a butterfly effect.  Here is an analogy to better explain. If you place a small pea on a table and lay several sheets of paper on it after a while the elevated area will cover more space than did the pea initially, causing some more trouble along the way.

 

Count the number of strips needed to cover the belly (the largest part) then measured the front bow section and divide it by the number of strips, to get the width of each strip. Start this process over after every 2 or 3 trips glued, make sure that the width is correct and that you won't end up with too much to lose at the top.

 

 If needed, use stealers although if you did the other steps correctly you shouldn't have to use them too much for example, I didn't have to, but sacrificed a lot of time because I edge sanded every strip to make them fit the previous one.

 

 Like I just mentioned try to make each strip fit exactly the previous one and make them in the process as straight as possible. Here is a drawing I made to illustrate this.

 

Finally, use CA (cyanoacrylate is the working agent examples : krazy glue, gorilla, Bob Smith industries) glue and press firmly a while to maintain pressure on the whole strip.  Unlike the thicker ones, these strips will elevate one side, the one where the bend is made.  To counter this effect you should narrow the end. Here is an example.

Instead, your strip should be tapered, to decrease the bending needed.

 

If you are unhappy with a plank,  correct it now or else later it'll be too late. In fact if you try sanding it afterwards, you risk going trought and revealing the layer underneath.

 

These where my top tips, hope this helped.

Thanks a lot Cathead, like you I struggled to find a diagram that put the canons parralel to the sides, like showed occre. This will be helpfull I'm sure.

 

I thanks Snug Harbor Johnny too for his idea, although these many twists seem harder than the half hitch I use.

 

I would like to use the most accurate knots in rigging my ship, but I struggle a lot with holding the knot itself, the working end and the block I'm trying to seize. Inevitably, I release one of the above, having only two hands. I cross my fingers that nothing will slip out of place and, with good luck I'm sometimes able to finish the knot.

Hi guys, last post I forgot to show you the method I used to make the end loops easily for the deadeyes.

 

 

while holding the pin vise, I take to tweezers with my free hand to form the loop around an upsidedown drill bit the size wanted for the loop.

Hi everybody, some progress has been made during the holidays, and more is to come. The central trap doors are finished, as well as a crank, wich I still don't know the use. Since the pins where too far forward, I had to glue it at the back. I also covered the feet with a mahagony veneer I curved around, making them much better looking than the naked plywood.

 

 

I forgot last time to show you the bow figure, wich I painted with gold testor enamel paint.

 

 

Then came the chainplates, very fastidius to make the end loops. I invented a method to glue the beam over all at once, consisting of placing a wedge under the cutting mat to elevate the deadeyes. 

 

 

I haven't nailed them to the hull yet, I am waiting to place the mast in, to align them with it.

 

At first, I hadn't realise that the 3 deadeyes at the stern where supposed to be the small size. I realized that a bit too late. I had to open them and replace them. Now nobody could notice that this mistake was made.

 

 

I attached some blocks to eyebolts on the deck, but made a small mistake. For one of them, the hole was upside down. I managed to take it out of the loop and put it back, without loosening the loop too much I think.

 

 

 

The last part where the gun ports. I took some scrap 2 x 5 wood and oiled it to match the inner sides. I covered them with mahagony and painted them. I glued the hinges a bit off the center, to give the impression of real hinges. This is why I also added a small x-acto line to simulate a 2 part organ. You better be carefull with those, as they fly off tweezers easily and they give you only the exact amount necessary.

 

 

 

I did a 90 degrees bend, to compensate with the loss of space caused by the deadeyes placement.

 

 

To finish off, I read somewhere that the gun port at the bow was only painted, to make it seem like they had more canons than they really had. In fact, it lines up with nothing, this door leads to a wall. Maybe this isn't true, I don't know.

 

 

 

I do not remember showing some pictures of, well, those. I don't remember the name of the entrances. I know some people put staircase on the hull that lead to them but occre doesn't seem to make us put them. Anyways, I glued mahagony strips there to cover the layer of the sides.

 

 

 

 

One last thing, do you guys know how the canons on the HMS Beagle where rigged to the deck. Altough occre shows a way, it doesn't convince me that this was the way. Otherwise they would be moving back and forth on these ropes.

 

 

 

Thank you all again for following me on this journey.

Hi, its been a long time.

In the meantime I ordered 5 more brass rods, which weren't the right size. Luckily, occre agreed to send me an other package, for free.

 

 

While waiting, I drilled the holes for the nails of the keel (is that the word? ), which turned out pretty good. The hard part was to carefully bend the sides to fit the curvature of the stern.

 

 

 

Next, I made the windows from leftover wood, because the kit supplied one woudn't fit, because of how flat they where. They still servent as a good guide, to get the size right. I then bended and glued the metal decoration piece.

 

 

 

To finish of, I drilled and glued the eyebolts arount the mast hole. I think I might have placed the one at the left a bit too close to the one beside it. After that, I started the trapdoors.

 

 

 

bye guys, until next time. I will try to post more often.

The bow's decorations are finished. They where hard to do, because of the curves and the end loops you had to give the brass rods.

Speaking of them, as some mentionned in their build logs before, this kit doesn't have enough of 1 mm rods. I just commander them, and by occre's police, they should be free of charges. I don't know if there are other material issues you have encountered. If yes, let me know.

 

 

 

After that, I painted the barge and the stern.

 

 

Hi Capella, just wanted to check in on you. Do you have any progress so far to show us? If not, maybe we could help you with overcoming a step you're stuck on. 

 

PS: I would glue a big chunk of wood at the fore in front of the first bulkhead, and then sand it. This could replace the need for a first layer in that difficult spot. Anyways, nobody would know what was under that second planking when done.

Hi guys, its been a while. I made the "anchor's rubbing protection" ?, as well the anchor chain holes we mentionned earlier. I glued the sleeping bags, the sides and the little design triangles.

After that, I hand painted the whole thing. I am very happy with the "water line" ?, because instead of using tape, which could potentially leak, I freehanded it. In my opinion, it couldn't have been better with tape.

To finish off, I glued on the catheads.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks RossR, my moto is:

 

Why lose your time practicing, when you can just take your time over one great project.

 

By myself, (I think)

The 6 pounder carronade is finished, and has been painted with the black paint from Apple Barrel. I did my best with the whipping to make it look more realistic. If anyone know how the other canons where rigged on the Beagle, please let me know, as occre shows them simple held by a rope on the deck through an eyebolt.

 

 

The rubbing strakes have been installed... sort of. When I glued the middle one in the first place, I made so that it went through the middle of each gunport. However, the plans show them elevated at the stern.

 

 

Something I did not take in consideration. But I don't think its that bad. I even think mine looks better.

 

 

The bad part is the bow. I made the bottom strake follow its natural curve. This made the soon to be painted white stripe taper, wich in my opinion, would look ugly. I proceeded to carefully unglue the undesirable part, to place it in a straighter position. You can see the before (left) and after (right).

 

 

 

To finish off , why is there only one hole used on that thing ?

What is the purpose of the other ?

 

 

Until next time, 

Patrick B.

The hull has been coated 2 times by tung oil. 

 

 

I have seen the folkart paint, but they seemed rather thick compared to the Apple Barrel's milk like consistency.

Hi guys, to paint the hull, I though about using those two matte paint from Apple Barrel.

 

 

Anyone has an idea about the quality of those paint ? Do they cover enough ? Not enough ?

The bowsprit, without its rigging, is completed. It hasn't been installed yet, because I will paint the hull before that. The nail is an idea of mine (I think) to hold the mast in place when it will be time.

 

 

 

I have a question. The manual asks for 2 holes on each side to make rope pass through them. I can only see one rope for each side in the rigging instructions.

 

 

Anyone who has built this ship has an idea?

I just finished the windlass and its attachments.

 

 

Followed by the two flag storage boxes.

 

 

I also glued the stern, wich wasn't and easy task. So much so that I couldn't get the ends to touch with this weird compound curve, without having the bottom halve ungluing.

 

 

I then shaped the brass rods, wich wasn't straighforward either.

It was small tweak there, a bit of straightening here, oups that was too much, back to the small tweak.

 

There it is, with a good coat of tung oil and with its keel.

 

I also made deck details with added holes for realism.

 

The second planking is finished.

 

Pretty happy with the results, considering I have used full lenght strips everywhere (no stealers), and didn't use an ounce of filler too. 

 

Next I will varnish it and place the rubbing strakes on top. After that, it will be about gluing the rudder in place and finally, painting the sides. I don't plan to copperplate this hull.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, here is the first side of the model planked, using CA glue. The other side is to come.

 

 

The little thing to hold the anchor has been made, although I can't find in the instructions how the rigging will pass through it. Even on the final picture these 4 holes seem unused.

 

I haven't cleaned it with acetone. After sanding the little that leaked through, I can't see anything. Now its fingers crossed. Regarding the manual, here is what's written. 

 

Using contact (or cobbler's) adhesive, glue the lining into place.

 

The lining being the second planking of sapelli.

Thanks for the info allanyed, good think I stuck ( without making a bad word play ), with CA glue.

 

My only concern is that I have sometimes a little bit of glue that comes out on the sides of a plank. I try to sand it until it disapeares, but I hope it won't show when I will apply the Tung oil.

 

Anyway, here is the progress of the hull. Please inform me if you see any CA leakage.