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That may be true but fire and alcohol don’t mix well. If I have to toss a jar out every once in a while, so be it.

I purchased this kit a while ago because it was on clearance knowing nothing about it. It turns out the kit had been discontinued. The only reference to it on the Occre website are the instructions that are available to download. I am excited about this build because this will be my first ship (my previous models have been smaller boats and a cross section) and also because it will be a model of a specific vessel. Upon doing some research into the vessel I discovered that there is no Cala Esmeralda. I did find however, that the kit was very heavily inspired by the ship currently named Santa Eulalia, which is a working vessel at the Barcelona Maritime Museum. I am not sure why the kit has been slightly changed and renamed. Maybe royalties or copyright? In any event, the Barcelona Maritime museum has a very nice 245 page booklet available for Download on this page. The history of the vessel is quite interesting, having undergone numerous name changes and configurations since its launch in 1919 as the Carmen Flores. Originally launched as a three mast schooner, primarily to carry cargo, in the 1920's it was converted to a two mast schooner and an engine was added. It was later converted into an underwater construction vessel with no sails and renamed the Sayremar Uno. It was almost unrecognizable as the same vessel. In 1997 the vessel was purchased by the Barcelona Maritime Museum with the intention of restoring it to its original from at launch with the exception of modern safety and practicality features necessary for an active ship. 5 years later the ship was restored, renamed and had its maiden voyage as the Santa Eulalia. More information about the history can be found in the link above. All photos (except for my photo of the Occre box) are credited to the Barcelona Maritime Museum booklet available for free to download also from the link above. As far as the build goes, there are definitely some differences between the model and the actual ship. One of the most notable (though not readily visible from the box) is that the Occre kit is shown with two square topsails on the forward mast. There is no indication that I can see that the actual vessel ever had square sails. The kit has gaff topsails on each mast, but no staysails. The line line drawings for the Santa Eulalia show both gaff topsails and staysails, however I cannot find an image of her with anything but the main sails being flown. I suspect this is to simplify the operation of a ship crewed by museum staff and volunteers. Obviously I will not add the square sales, but I will have to decide how I want to go about with the other topsails. One other thing of note that I found is that the scale isn't quite right. The kit says that it is a 1:58 scale. I have found that it is closer to a 1:50 scale with the actual vessel. Other difference will be noted at the time of the build, but I can already tell that the chains and deadeyes will be slightly different and the painting of the ship is clearly different. My next step will be to do an inventory of the kit.

I recently bought the sander with the repeater. I haven't used the repeater yet, but the sander works great. Very heavy duty steel. I don't have a good place to have a permanent shipyard at the moment so the fewer power tools the better for me. It was pricey, but I am pretty happy with the purchase.

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If I am understanding what you are asking correctly, I think that the simplest solution would be to take a separate clean empty jar and keep the pad in there with just a tiny bit of denatured alcohol. I used to keep a paint brush in my jar of shellac and it was fine, but a pad would be a bit more tricky to remove without making a mess when you are ready to use it. Be careful with the jar that you are keeping the shellac in. I had to throw that brush and the jar away when I allowed too much shellac to accumulate on the threads of the jar/lid. I was unable to open it no matter how hard I tried. Now before I close the jar I wipe the lid and the top of the jar with a small bit of alcohol on a paper towel and make sure that is dry before putting the lid back on.

My experience with shellac is that it can be a stand alone varnish applied after any staining and painting. It will add a bit of a sheen and can be polished with ultra fine steel wool (though small pieces of the steel wool will eventually rust in the shellac) or with very fine sand paper. It does make a very hard and smooth coating over whatever it is applied to. Being alcohol based and natural, I appreciate that I can use it in my house without having to worry about fumes.

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I think you thanked the wrong person. I just liked the posts because it was good info for me as well.

It will take a little bit of time, but wood filler and sanding can cover up a lot of mistakes. At the end of the day, You have one more layer of planking that will cover everything. That second layer is a bit more forgiving since you will have a solid base to work on.

Nice work! You have accomplished quite a bit in a year. Looking forward to seeing your future logs.

Very nice work!

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Thanks, that is definitely my thought as well. My main concern was more about build complexity.

Thank you Chris. That has been part of the struggle. My plan was always to do the Santa Eulalia next, but after looking at and analyzing my small stash I started to question that. Baring someone else chiming in with a good point about either build, I will likely stick to my plan. I’m definitely interested in both and which ever I do, I will do the other next (I have both kits already). That is very cool that the Santa Eulalia is what got you into ship modeling. I haven’t seen in person, but I hope to sometime in the near future. I believe that I have most of the info available online from the Barcelona Maritime Museum. Most likely I will do the Santa Eulalia first, sans a compelling suggestion to do the other. I’ll try my best to do it justice!

For those that have experience with both manufacturers, which kit would be easier or more straight forward to build? For the Model Shipways Mayflower, I would build it as is out of the box. For the Esmeralda, my plan is to bash it to model the Santa Eulalia (which the kit is based off of). It looks like the bashing shouldn't be too involved, but it would be my first real experience with any level of bashing. The Mayflower seems like it may be a bit more complicated, but it has very thorough instructions. The Occre kit appears to be a standard Occre build, but again, with the addition of some kit bashing. I think the main thing I might be hung up on is rigging, a three mast square rig vs a three mast schooner (The Santa Eulalia doesn't have top sails which simplifies the rigging). You can see what kits I have completed in my signature. Thank you for any insights. https://modelexpo-online.com/Model-Shipways-MAYFLOWER-1620-SCALE-176_p_1019.html https://www.victoryshipmodels.com/ship-model-cala-esmeralda-wooden-static-kit-occre-topsail-schooner.html

I believe that I can answer your question now. After using it to make about a dozen or so lengths of rope, I have to say that I would not recommend it. To be totally fair, I am not using it the way it was designed. Rather than using the hand crank, I used a drill, by using the chuck to grab the shaft of the rope walk. The shaft is a bit too short and the drill would slide off more than occasionally. After a dozen or so uses, keeping everything from falling apart has become difficult. I suspect that this wouldn't be a problem and the quality would be fine had I been using the hand crank. However, making a dozen lengths of 15-20 foot rope using the a hand crank seems like a task that would try my patience. Since I already have it, I am going to try to improve the design with some hardware, but otherwise I would go with another rope walk.

This build is now finished, just about 2 years after I built my first wooden model, the Dory. The lines have slacked slightly. I am not sure if I stretched them or if the shellac caused it. It isn't too bad though. The fleet so far (sans cross section that wouldn't fit in the photo). This was a mostly an enjoyable build. The instructions were difficult to follow at time due to the low resolution on the photographs. The best reference photo was the cover photo on the box. I should have done a better job on the sails and been a little more careful with the glue on the lines, but overall I am happy with it. I feel that it was a small improvement on my previous builds, which is all I can ask for. I would suggest to someone doing this kit in the future to place the cleats before placing any of the furniture on the deck and to ensure that everything will be clear of any rigging. The canopy framing on the stern should also be put on later in the build. Definitely read through the instructions before starting and determine the order that you think would be best for you. Thank you again to @Javelin for supplying me with good reference photos, @wefalck and @Nirvana for resources and info on dhow construction and @Rick01 for his build log and sharing his insights on this kit.

Just about done. A bit more rigging and that is about it. At this point the building is complete. The only thing left that I plan on doing is adding some shellac to the lines to help harden them a bit. Most of the rest of the solid structure has had been varnished as I went. I did end up with quite a bit of extra material. I tried to be very efficient with my usage as I was worried about not having enough to correct mistakes. Apparently that wasn't necessary, but hey, spare wood for future projects.

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Very nice work! I love the outdoor photos. A couple of them could easily be mistaken for photos of a real ship.

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A bit more rigging done. The instructions would have these lines start at the same cleats that they are tied off on. I didn't really like that so I tied them to the rail along the bow. I filed a small notch in the bottom half bowsprit to give the rigging something to grab onto. Just a photo of the bow.