NenadM

Hmm 70-80 days lasting journey with no more than 30 members of crew, let us say, 20-30 paper pieces per man ... Not a significant volume. I think that paperrolls, when appear at free market at the end of XIX century were expensive, and it is more possible that they were using regular paper. Cheaper, need less space, and probably can be find in every harbour.

I echo this !!!!!!! More than a several times

Thank you, Nils. Your post interested me to make a quick research - did paperrools exist in XIX century. Quote for Wikipedia: " Modern commercial toilet paper originated in the 19th century, with a patent for roll-based dispensers being made in 1883" Very interesting article to read !!! we usually do not think about history of everyday trivially stuff Last time when I was thinking about was when, as youth, I have read book "The Life of Gargantua and of Pantagruel" written in XVI century by François Rabelais,l which I have in my library in edition "world classics". Tractate (treatrise) about ... So, it means that probably, paperrols appear eventualy on CS in late XIX century or in XX century. Who knows, I do not believe that such a fact is written anywhere, because of it`s minor meaning

Thanks my friend. It is really nothing compare to your miniature works

@Mark, maybe after my diet I could be able to use it @Jud, I am just playing, and have to think about for a while. Idea came from Sudomek's Ariel. Fact is that his Ariel is made almost at doubled scale with nice metal details inside cabin. I am not sure for now, will doors be opened. Having in mind that right in front of door will be ladders, and that ladders have nice and fine protective net on side, it seems pretty crowded on a very narrow space there for opening door enough to see inside. Position of hole was correct at first moment (leg room) but I had to shorten cabine a while after making to fit it on place and to line it's front to right point on fore deck, and room for legs dissapeared. Same thing with nice little pink piggy I moved in pen near, also playing with idea, which is now visible only when you put your nose near at 10 cm distance, and now, it will be visually almost covered with cabin and ladder. You can see Mrs. Piggy on picture in a previous post Long ago I have seen half opened model of U-boat with cabins and furniture (Roland Vlahovic CDO), even with picture on wall and Remembering this, I had idea to put miniature nail with paper on wall inside WC cabin ... but ... somewhere you just have to set frontire if there is no point @ Piet, thanks for nice words. Your work is inspiration to try things which at first look seems impossible to me

Step forward to WC cabins (please, do not understand in wrong way!) First - making, volume setting and position fitting Second - decoration and door. More fine sanding will be applied before painting Door has to be remade, a bit larger Inside look Painting will follow when I make second cabin Roof will coome at the end when I make another WC. Maybe horizontal nivelation to fore deck will be neccessary when second will be done

After couple of very very loaded days, tonight was a time to meet my fears ... As I expected height of rails at fore-deck points is different !!! It means that closets also will have different height!!! Difference is 2mm, so at right, 22 mm, and at the left, 20mm. :'( Considering that white roofs have to be at the same height toward main rail and to fore deck, it also means that door panels will be looking different, one narrower than another So, visualy "divideing" and visualy masking mistakes task - again First I run simple test making closets from cards, with 10mm width as on C-pland, just to see their volume how it looks at measured height Not good. Too narrow So, solution is to "wide them, and I make another test with 12 mm width in base 2mm more is not big deal having in mind that there is no other content beside closets toward stern. Also I think that this 12 mm at front (door panels) will allow me to distribute bad look adding open doors to closets and inner content ... Of course, there will be a famous hole we discus above I think that fine details as ornaments on side walls of closet and on the doors, open doors with hole and ... and pump and the bars will cover my mistake at all

Looks promising !

You are right, Marc. Just yesterday, my family friends in visit, wanted to see my model, and after 10 minutes of UH OH AH WOW OMG etc, I pointed to my mistakes, and realised they did not see them at all, even they are very exposed in actual stage of build. For some kind of mistakes, you have to know every detail of original and to compare to be able to notice eventualy mistake (my corps, e.g.). I think this will be extreme rare situation, except you show your model on some competition when real experts will value your work

"... So what went wrong??? I'll tell you what went wrong.. the (expletives go here) stupid model kit with which I started this build is off in the framing and height of the bulwark in this area!!!!!!!!!!!! ..." Keel hauling of kit author may help to further builders I strongly suggest longitudinal hauling Impresive work, Marc. A lot to learn. Another point where we can understand how complex are all ship lines, and where are "holes" we can bump in if do not think about on time Keep on my friend. You will find adequate solution

No doubt that it will be superb Go on!

it serves you right, Nenad! When you blow up cholesterol, graze grass and eat carrot !!!

How, to hell, you get so perfect surfaces?

Hey Carl ... I do not intend to test closets and their usability before or after making and mounting them !!! Seats will be there, which means that I have to make doors open. If I eventually forgot seats, and my little people fall through, that is what is salt water pump for, isn`t it ? Ok, let`s even try to be serious, even for a while ... sudden and unexpected pressure of work do not allow me to step down to workbench. Maybe tomorrow. I hope

Preassure ... hmmm ... fortunately, pump is near whatever happened ... I have seen small pump(s) on some photos, and I am considering possibility to put them ( they will look as something 2x2x4mm) - is there point to do this Thanks Piet for nice words. Just collecting photos and detective ( Sherlock Holmes with magnifier) work. Digital, off course And final preparation for WC - working drawing is done, and I am ready for first tests

New build? O yeah! Hardly wait for first moves

Go on!

Next step - closets. A bit trivially, but this two structures have a lot details, and it is worth to discuss them a little Diving through my bunch of photos, I realized that closets changed their design during time couple of times. Also bar`s length and design of pump Here are photos from WEB and Lou`s photos cropped to detail I decided to follow present look Issue No 2 - left and right are different with additional content Left has a little pump at side And right has eight bars for capstan at side There are, normally, ornaments similar to ornaments on cabins at the doors and sides, just to test my patience And now, the icing on the cake ... Dimensions on my scale for WC cabins are: Height 21 mm width 9,6 mm, depth 11 mm And I deadly want that pump and all eight bars !!! All wiith their brass caps Translated to real life of modeler, it means that single bar has less than 1mm dia, and that pump is about 10x5mm And a cherry on icing ... My lost lines prevent me to cut directly on scale. First I have to make and fit card templates of closet profile to the rail height, and then to make drawings by them. Now, in front of my PC I hope that left and right height of rails beneath fore deck are the same. I do not dare tonight to go down to shipyard ant to measure. Also I hope that I didn`t put some stanchions there, and that I stopped white panel`s line as it is shown on photos Who said that I like challenge ? I said

Don`t worry, some kits includes ladders WITH sails !!!!! Of course, with davits on creative places !!!!

Devil do not stand still ... I googled for a while and found THIS and this So year 2007

Maybe it will help Marc At first, "fresh" picture Obviously, there is no even trace of accommodation ladders But ... About a year ago, I discovered possibility of smart phones to make screenshot, and, translated to our hobby, also great possibility to, during looking to Youtube clips about CS, pause clip and take screenshot of some interesting detail So, researching for look of cabins, and structure of cabin ornaments, I "screen-shoted" this picture Unfortunately, I just can not remember how to find this clip again among 100000000 clips of CS. It seems that this clip was made during previous reconstruction, before fire, when all cabins were out of ship, at dry Adn, OMG - here are accommodation laders !!!!!! Or, THERE WERE LADDERS !!!! But not idea - where ! This lead me to theory that ladders were permanently removed during last reconstruction after fire

In Jock`s Willis specification, it can be found many "ladders", only one "accommodation ladders" mentioned, but on both sides Just for soap to be thicker ... Edit: I am wrong: Maybe. On C-plans, there is one for both sides Thank you Mark. Others are researching, I am only thinking about Another spice for soap On C-plans, under ladders there are small words Keep attention that Mr.Campbell use word "ladder" (singular) , "not ladders" (plural) And particulary note words "to suit either side" !!! So, it seems - one and only, at least in time when drawings were set I can only hipothesize. Marc In original plans I started with, ("TEHNODIDAKTA" from Pula, Croatia) there is no any sign about scale When I found C-plans in *.pdf, I enlarged it digitally to fit as much as possible to my original plans, to keep proportions. But, then I discovered many deviations and discrepancies when I was looking for reference points (e.g. distance axes of masts) which leads me to conclusion that TEHNODIDAKTA plans are not correct. Keep this in mind for a moment ... TEHNODIDAKTA did not sell plans and kits more that 20-25 years, and now it is in another country (Croatia), and it is mission impossible even to try to find anybody who worked there on time when plans are drawn ( 1970 year). Couple of years ago, in Serbia appears small family company who sell plans and kits, among which is "Cutty Sark" with TEHNODIDAKTA plans, and they declare they sell revised TEHNODIDAKTA plans, I do not know how. But they declared unusual scale 1:100. I do not believe that they change main TEHNODIDAKTA proportions (considering to some photos from their web site) So, if TEHNODIDAKTA plans are correct and in scale (which i doubt very much) and they transfer scale correctly, my CS can be in scale 1:100, which is very close, or very far to usual 1:96 scale ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scale_model_sizes ). Depends from point of view Add to that, that I have my "line problem", which result in reparation of decks several times, which further result with change ing of some dimensions at biw, stern, bullwarks, decks..., and now it is just impossible to declare correct scale. Mainly, I use my rescaled C-plans, and mainly everything fits in proportion pretty well

Not small !!!

Thanks dear friend. This it what MSW is for. Learning and skill curve grows during time. And then, when you during time start collecting likes and friends-folowers who like your work, real masters between them which positive thoughts about your work mean a lot to you, and you start thinking: "ok, I am not so bad", then you ... accidently ... find works and photos from e.g. world shampionship, or have FB friends who wins value rewards on World or EU comletitions, or just dare to follow works of kings of MSW, and realise you still have to travel far. But, good point is, you always ask yourself: can I make something like that? Even simillar? And next turn of learning curve starts As I follow your works, I noticed mentioned riseing of skills

Thx Denis. Next - Closets and ladders to front deck