NenadM

In mean time, until some valuable progress will be made to show, I found some very interesting to see, and I want to share it. On Serbian forum http://www.krilapetrovgrada.org.rs/forum/index.php?topic=1559.0 there are lot of pictures from Kubok LenExpo, Sankt Peterburg 2012 Very impressive (especcialy work of Ivan Trtanj) and more than a little bit frustrating. What a f...g amateur am I. But, there is no reason not to go on with my Citty. She obviosly will not be designated to exhibitions or museums, but I am sure that she will be very nice and impressive in my room or in my office. And there is much satisfaction and enjoy in making her majesty. And I think she likes it, too Real inspiration for us, mortals

exelent work

21:00 And first hand of first phase of first side of hull planking is finally over. Why it is impossible to attach files from android with Opera app. ? With froyo 2.1. fabric inteerenet app it is slow slow slow Sorry, pictures will be shown later when family battle for laptop finish. What do you think: who will be a winner of that battle? And most important question : when ? And another question : how much computers are enough for four members family? Ahh ... never ending story of our life. 23:00 Laptop is fortunately captured, pictures successfully transferred from FB and here is today progress vrom different angle view. Obviously. there is much work left to do with sanding and filling to get proper shape, especially in transition area between hull and the plank. But first, to finish another side of ship at same way. I think this is important to achieve symmetry as much is possible But she began to look powerfull ( or dreaming ?) side wiew front wiew from down and the nicest view - from up

Personally, I like rigging, other works are just (!) preparing for rigging ... and I can not wait rigging ... and first you see on sail ship is - sails and ropes. and again sails and ropes, and more sails and ropes. Only modeler or hard lover see something else like details of on deck (for instance decking flooring), lines of hull, proud stern or elegant bow, or ... Of course, tastes are different, someone like galleys, someone like sailing ships, and someone like a most beautiful among them - clippers. Personally, galleys are nice, and surelly can be very interesting and provocative for building, but, cannons cannons cannons and more cannons, and only few sails .... and very hard planking.... That was and that is my thinking, same as long ago when I had to choose between Bounty kit or Cutty-Sark kit

Yes, Brian, "almost done". Good joke. I like it. The essence of enjoyment is in the process of work and creativity in solving technical and aesthetic issues and concerns. This is the reason why always after, we are going to the next, and the next, and the next model. It's also nice to spent time - when not working on the model - but think about the details - how to solve them, or while digging around the Internet, and the time to chat with fans of the same hobby. Many good ideas appear just in that time, and exactly that situation hardly pulls you back to the workshop to try it and to apply. And that all is great pleasure So. let it be.

Yesterday I wrote: I hope ... It is said: HOPE LAST DIE. And it is sad: Working whole day, and it is to late for my Cutty Good night

Thx for support. I hope tomorrow evening to finish right side planking

Nice work. I hope you enjoy in resolving unclear points of building. That is creative part, with pleasure in the end if it finished on satisfied way. Keeo going, I`ll follow NenadM

Pressure of work continues ...and continues ... seems not to be the regular weekend. Generaly, to be honest, this situation is not bad because at the end of June start two month period when courts do not work in Serbia, and I shall be full of work all the summer long, but .... I am also a living man with another needs and wishes except working I am shamed. I stoled some time from myself ... and my Cutty start showing her elegant bow and powerfull side And I am happy (even today) and can go to sleep

The draft is unclear. Do you think that I understand it correctly?

What a brilliant idea - special tools. As you said in introduction: really model for begginers ...

Today progress. Next time, evidently, I`ll have some kind of provocation with narrow bow and its sharp lines. I like challenge

And it seems to be OK... one day. Proud stern line

Little joke: "Almost" Cutty Sark in her "dry dock" in Belgrade .... Finally, I resolved problem how not to damage sensitive small parts during planking. Styrofoam packaging for electric cooker has found a new use.

Yes Brian, that is the plan exactly. Narrow veneer upside, copper brass or zinc foil downside. Just as on the Cutty sark in Greenwich. But there is so much to do until I rich that phase. Thx for your interest

Finally I go on. Not bad. Evidently it will be some corrections Edit on October 04. 2013 : "some" corrections ???? Rather - some months for corrections

How to make dead-eye by your own, step-by-step. Use only hard wood (oak, ash, beech) , for instance - rest of parquet, and patience patience patience, and steady hand Edit on October 04. 2013: Now, when I have mounted bulwarks, I am not sure if it was good idea, they seems little bit larger than it could be. Pretty crowded around them, and they are not in line

Dont give up. There are usualy surprising results if you apply some tips and tricks

With a tools I have, I do not see another way to distort and warp a long strips exactly on right place and on the way I want, Beside of that, in same start of working, I made first important decision - do I make a museum quality model, or do I make a model to enjoy making it to be a beautiful as much as it can be. I do not have skill level for museum model, and that is so

Next step

And here is what I mean and why

I must add some extra ribs to ensure right and smoth line of curvature.

Tanks for nice wishes. Ill try to get the best from me. I dont know scale, because kit I bought 1983 was made 1973 and had ONLY nine sheets, some peaces of wood and some peaces made of plastic or metal. Dont forget that 1973 Yugoslavia was socialistic poor country. No instructions except for painting !!! But measuring on sheets are 1:1 with dimensions of ship approximately : 110 cm x 75 x 25. Tomorrow I shall get exact dimensions.Sorry for my bad English. Here is today progress, two hours of work I have exact dinensions : 92 cm (including bowsprit x 55 cm x 24 cm , and it seems to be 1/96 scale (?). Quotation from Wikipedia: General characteristics Class & type: Clipper Tonnage: 975 GRT[1] Displacement: 2,100 tons (2,133.7 tonnes) at 20 ft (6.1 m) draught Length: Hull: 212 ft 5 in (64.74 m) LOA: 280 ft (85.34 m) - with notice in link LOA - For sailing ships this may exclude the bowsprit and other fittings added to the hull. and it means, as Hull + bowsprit = 85,34m, and on model = 92 cm - then scale is 1/92 ??? Who knows EDIT at December 14th 2015 - important notice As a payment for inexperience, almost three years after this stage, I discovered my old ( new) mistake about this method of planking. Even it enabled me to get nice surface easy to shape, when time comes to think about Her standing and way to fix standing on hull, problems appeared, caused with another mistakes (to much dedicated sanding thinned keel to 3mm) and softness of balsa. See post #2737

Link to content is in signature Introduction This log is intend to be personal track record of first "serious" attempt to scratch building of my very old Cutty Sark kit, started long ago and forgotten somewhere in house, mixed with some personal observations and notes Edits notes and remarks will be inserted later, to show points what are dangerous place (for dummy as me) to bump in undesired situation caused by in-patience, an-experience and God¨s will I am not a master, rather novice with too much ambition, but think in MSW there is enough room for all of us to share and learn, to keep a good time together My long lasting journey in wonderful world of ship modeling started long long ago in, I think, usual way. As almost every kid I tried myself in some cheep plastic plane models, fast and furious, short life each ( they can not fly...) Then after a while in paper car models ( my own creation), made about 30 pieces, no one leave ( they can not drive). Then, in a high school I made some no-name (or forgoten name) plastic kit ships, also no one leave ( they can not stay above heater ...). Last one, "Stella" ( Heller) died and rest in peace during cleaning dust few years ago This little Heller model on some way entered me door to "yellow brick road": Heller original colors in kit, by my opinion, were on such a type that model rather looks as toy, so I experimented with colors to catch color of wood, added extra details on deck and extra ropes ... joy in playing, and obviously first sign with arrow to entrance for something that on MSW is called "dark side" And then, once upon a time ... very long ago during the study of law, I make my first step for modelling ships in wood. I got done Columbus Santa Maria (If I remember well, also TEHNODIDAKTA Pula, but I am not so sure about manufacturer from this time distance) , made it, with a lot of improvisation, and with extra added ropes which to me it belongs ... but it looked nice for me. In that time I do not know nothing about real ship modelling, made it without necessary thinking, with half of brain, and in unnecessary hurry. Santa Maria got her way with my first wife more about 30 years ago. Somewhere on that days, my twin brother made little and simple Heller`s Cutty Sark, and maybe that moment I fall in love with sail ships and their beauty Then I finished law study, went in Army for one year, Navy in Pula, Croatia, former Yugoslavia ... and that was this ... 35 years ago only "Tehnodidakta" from Pula had made wooden models in kit. ( It was impossible for us mortals to order and pay kit from other country, even to know something more about ships, models, modeling techniques, tools and so). I was delighted with that discovery, and I bought wooden kit with plans and materials for "Cutty Sark". If I remember well, only few models were there ( Santa Maria, domestic ship "Jadran", some ships from old Dubrovnik, Bounty - not sure, and some domestic smaller historical models). And as every youth, wanting to be different and to choose the greatest of offered kits, a beautiful and extremely complex model with many sails and ropes, I bought it, knowing not in what I am just entering. To say again, I did not know absolutely nothing about Cutty Sark, and having no idea what serious modelling really is To write about Cutty Sark is unnecessarily, there is so much written and published, sure on much better way I can do. Also, She is still alive in her Museum I started working on model in 1984. and it kept me up until 1985-6, when I met friend with a really nice model of Cutty done, and I realized - or should I do it right, or it does not work anyway. And she went in deepest dark in my attic to collect dust and to cry silently in her dark corner Then came usual things: got a steady job, got a wife, divorced, abandoned study for doctorate, and another wife, and two little children, start and finish building my house, become a attorney, etc etc etc... and, after "only" three very fast decades, finally the time has come to proceed, if I do not want to watch TV or read a book, or work, and there is no other homework to do. Children ( 22 and 24) are not children any more, and they need me only for money ( joke), they are adults now with their own life ( students finishing their study) ... and, suddenly, I find that appears a few hours in day exclusively concerned only for me. Amazing discovery In meantime, trying to interest my son, we (I) made some simply plastic, I think Revell Pirate ship toy Jolly Roger. Failed attempt, made in less than a week, but I enjoy making it The real trigger of my come back in wooden ship modeling was a appearance in Serbia of DeAgostini`s specialized periodical journal ( in 100 appearances) with successive parts of galleon, and I like it very much, but do not like many simplification of details which are important for me. Drawing boards on the deck with a graphite pen ? No, thanks. Waiting two weeks for single part ? No thanks. And then I remembered that I already have a plans of Cutty, the one of the nicest sail ship ever. Of course, the one with the most complicated rigging ... For difference, now, after 30 years I finally have a working corner and a mini-workshop in heat-room near the garage (and not to forget, continuous war with my daughters Persian cat and long cat hair eveeeeeerywhere). All rest wooden parts were 30 years old, and they have dried up and became largely and almost unusable. In fact, there are left only plans, some old strips and veneer, and some plastic / metal parts that I should see if I'll ever use them. So, I made up my mind, dig on mess of old things in attic of house, FIND Her, and a few months ago I started from the beginning, only with saved old blueprint sheets ( old misfit try of Cutty went in trash) with the big important difference that exists today „His Majesty the Internet“ and a millions of pictures of finished models and details of the models, which is of invaluable help. Not to forget , today in Serbia there are affordable many required tools like Dremel/Einhel tools, and so. A great help is the fact that "my" ship still exists reconstructed in Greenwich, and there are available many photos of her details for research Edit on september 23.2013: At the begin of this month I find Campbell plans, and from that time my work goes mainly by them, and my dedication and way of looking to my work rapidly change from day to day Beginning And so ... my first brave steps toward swamp, with more braveness than a brain presence I did not mention "swamp" accidentally. As time goes by, I decided to do some steps in building in my own way (?), not in way which is ordinary, and in sheets. (for example - making my own dead-eyes ( later - blocks ?) and, later - ropes, my way of planking, etc etc). What a confident fool ... but ... that is just me - whole life I discover hot water again and again ... Later I discovered that sheets have mistakes and insufficient instructions, my hands and experience are mainly not precise as I want, patience ... what is that ? But they are much better than 30 years ago, and my imagination and improvisation still exist, and I learn every day Really significant stage of my build is finding MSW, and here are first steps ... First decision was that I do not want to pay somebody for laser cut. What then rest for me to do ? Using paper with photo copy of plans to transfer plan to plywood. A "bit" of cutting and a "bit" of glue, and my way (?) to hold angle of 900 and to assume required stiffness skeleton for further work . Later, when time to mount deck come, I found that ship's ribs are not well drawn in plan, or I did not cut and mount them properly. Not provide proper and sufficient longitudinal and transverse slope of the deck. Yes, it will be quite a job to fit it There was a lot of my unexperience in this , very very very significant stage of building. In POB building (I discovered later) the crucial thing is right dimensions, position and angle of ribs. EVERYTHING later depends. Consequences can be, and in my build are - catastrophic. Months of lost time trying to correct mess, and all time re-examining myself - was it better to go from start. If that happen - to hell with everything, and start over without more thinking. If you do not do this - be sure that at moment you think that succed in correcting one part, another part will protrude out and jump right on your hand. And when fix this, third part will hit directly to your face. And when fix this, you discover that first corrected part is not good. Some kind of perpetuum mobil and never lasting process. You will spend months instead week or two to make keel and ribs again, this time with thinking and measuring. And as you are impatience full running to start planking on this messed bulkhead construction, as I was, be sure that you will have great enjoyment in unnecessary work And there is stern from one piece (it was corrected later in proper angles) - not just one correction, smart learns from others' mistakes, and fool ... In that stage, I have not idea how complex are curvatures of whole ship, and how much time I have to spend on it ... to lose them ... and to find them ... and to lose them again ... And, oh, what a self-confident ... Later I concluded that keel is little distorted, mainly by "my way" of assuming "right" angles, but there is no way to correct this .... Deck mounted with many previous corrections of ribs to assume slope. This was big big big MISTAKE. Right order is : first planking hull, and after that - deck mounting. See posts #240 and connected future posts. If you want to follow lines on upper side of ribs that lead to longitudinal and latitudinal curvature of deck, do not this. Deck can not be from one single piece of veneer 1mm width, as I did. You can not twist it in proper way. There is no way to do it. I tried, and result is - months of trying to correct mess and find lose lines. You can not correct it at all never again. So, better is to plank with strip by strip. For consequences, see later post http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-m-tehnodidakta-19711983-campbell-plans/page-42#entry156687 Holder for dead-eyes and wedges in one peace, not in four parts as in plan. It is much easier ( ha, ha ha !!!) way to follow the line from planes. Also mistake from same reason.I lose proper lines of hull, and this hang over my head all the time ... And holders must be redone completly Whole deck planting with veneer, also not in original plan. In original kit was wooden plate 2mm with 1mm deep and 1 mm wide grooves carved full-length of plate. I mounted that on old Cutty. What a joke ! First two pictures represent deck from kit, then part of a sheet, and at last picture is my try Edit Martch 31. 2014 : Fore and Aft deck - third time re-planked, main deck - second time re-planked Fool made dead-eyes rather than use plastic from kit ( For details - post #16). 66x designated only above deck. There will be so much more latter. Enormous work, and enormous lost time. Yes, I have to make them again in better way And twisted rope handmade instead wire. More elegant an more real, as I thought - obviously on that time I had no right idea what all this will be to the end Plastic dead-eye from kit at left, and self-made in center and right on picture Preventive cover with light sadoline, and view from the future bow - Once again mistake, I had to remove all traces of sadoline And then, when I join to MSW, was a time just start planking, planking, planking ... and to discover that ALL first moves on this chees table are just - wrong