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EdT reacted to DORIS in ROYAL CAROLINE 1749 by Doris - 1:40 - CARD
And here are some actual pics - today I have finished channels and deadeyes on the starboard.
These two in a better resolution:
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EdT reacted to DORIS in ROYAL CAROLINE 1749 by Doris - 1:40 - CARD
Hello dear friends,
I am really very honored reading your posts and your support helps me a lot. Thank you all very much and appreciate your "likes".
Paper and clay (sculpey) are my favourite materials, there are not needed any special tools to work with it. In fact I have only basic tools. So I try to search suitable techniques, how to create the model using available things for me.
You are right, dear Nils.
Doing something without love would be only a half. I like sea and ships and building sailing ships as models is really a great pleasure for me. And I am also very pleased I can share this with other people.
I took some closer pics of sculptures at the name plate for you, so you can enjoy them:
Here are other pics from process, when I modelled them:
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/854-royal-caroline-by-doris-card-1749-140/?p=28164
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/854-royal-caroline-by-doris-card-1749-140/?p=28161
Soon I will create other crew members near the cannons. I really like this work....
Oh yes, I am going to make masts, full rigging and sails. The model could be also used for a diorama (maybe in future, if I find suitable and large enough space at home).
Sovereign of the seas is my best current model made of card, I cooperated with two captains and experts, who helped me to create more realistic model. I spent two years to build SoS. Here is my building log at Modelforum (all is in Czech language, but there are plenty of pics, so that is quite understandable):
http://modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=43575
I suppose, that Royal Caroline will be after finishing even better.
Best regards
Doris
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EdT reacted to DORIS in ROYAL CAROLINE 1749 by Doris - 1:40 - CARD
Thanks for stopping by, dear Sjors.
Today I took some better pics at daylight and now I am continuing with deadeyes on starboard.
Enjoy the pics, soon I will add new ones.
Best regards
Doris
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EdT reacted to DORIS in ROYAL CAROLINE 1749 by Doris - 1:40 - CARD
Hello dear friends and warmly thank you for all your comments and praise. Your words mean a lot for me and I am pleased very much.
Well, the crew is interested mainly in the bottles with delicious drinks inside the cabins. I have to watch them not to be drunk. Maybe during the nights, when I sleep, they have a party on board..... because sometimes some of them fall over during the model construction.
Best regards
Doris
The port is finished, all deadeyes are placed at the channels according to plans.
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Part 49 – Hull cleanup, Port side ceiling
Before moving to the interior of the port side, I wanted to remove the protruding bilge ceiling bolts on the starboard side of the hull. There will be many more of these to be added but the installed wires are a hazard. The first picture shows the epoxied through-bolts being clipped off.
The remaining bolt stubs and epoxy were then filed off as shown below. A fine cut file works best for this because it doesn’t “grab” on the wire.
The next picture shows the lower hull sanded after removal of the bolt heads.
The next picture is a close up showing how the iron strapping will appear between the frames. Most of the strapping on the inside will be covered with planking.
The copper wire bolts are bright in this picture and will be blackened later, just before applying finish to the hull.
The next picture shows the start of work on the port side with the installation of the first strip of bilge ceiling near midship.
This first strip is installed just below the heads of the first futtocks. This sets the line of the bilge ceiling that the other strakes will follow. There are four more thick strakes below this. Above it, thick members extend up to the lower deck clamp as on the starboard side. It may seem odd to install this before the strapping, but I did it for two reasons. First, I wanted a very secure joint with the frames, especially on this side where a number of frames will be removed above this joint and below the middle deck clamp – to provide view ports into the hull. Secondly, the pins shown in this picture were used to correct any irregular spacing between the frames. This had to be done before strapping. After gluing and before removing the clamps, most of these pins were replaced by copper bolts.
The next picture shows the first section of lower deck clamp being installed.
In this picture and the one that follows, the frames marked “X” will be cut out between the lower futtock heads and the middle deck clamp to provide the view ports.
The next picture shows the strapping covering all but the forward view port area. There will be three of these view ports, one at each mast.
Sections of the deck clamps have also been added. The lower deck clamp is not glued or bolted to the “X” frames, but the frames are securely bolted to the clamps above. Note from the “X’s” that there are three groups of three frames to be cut out. This will be done much later when the structure has been well reinforced by additional members.
The last picture shows the strake of bilge ceiling extended forward along the lower futtock heads to intersect with the lower deck clamp.
All of these members are being epoxy bolted through the frames as they are installed to provide the primary strength to the joints with the frames. Glue alone is not enough, especially where there is strapping.
Ed
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Part 49 – Hull cleanup, Port side ceiling
Before moving to the interior of the port side, I wanted to remove the protruding bilge ceiling bolts on the starboard side of the hull. There will be many more of these to be added but the installed wires are a hazard. The first picture shows the epoxied through-bolts being clipped off.
The remaining bolt stubs and epoxy were then filed off as shown below. A fine cut file works best for this because it doesn’t “grab” on the wire.
The next picture shows the lower hull sanded after removal of the bolt heads.
The next picture is a close up showing how the iron strapping will appear between the frames. Most of the strapping on the inside will be covered with planking.
The copper wire bolts are bright in this picture and will be blackened later, just before applying finish to the hull.
The next picture shows the start of work on the port side with the installation of the first strip of bilge ceiling near midship.
This first strip is installed just below the heads of the first futtocks. This sets the line of the bilge ceiling that the other strakes will follow. There are four more thick strakes below this. Above it, thick members extend up to the lower deck clamp as on the starboard side. It may seem odd to install this before the strapping, but I did it for two reasons. First, I wanted a very secure joint with the frames, especially on this side where a number of frames will be removed above this joint and below the middle deck clamp – to provide view ports into the hull. Secondly, the pins shown in this picture were used to correct any irregular spacing between the frames. This had to be done before strapping. After gluing and before removing the clamps, most of these pins were replaced by copper bolts.
The next picture shows the first section of lower deck clamp being installed.
In this picture and the one that follows, the frames marked “X” will be cut out between the lower futtock heads and the middle deck clamp to provide the view ports.
The next picture shows the strapping covering all but the forward view port area. There will be three of these view ports, one at each mast.
Sections of the deck clamps have also been added. The lower deck clamp is not glued or bolted to the “X” frames, but the frames are securely bolted to the clamps above. Note from the “X’s” that there are three groups of three frames to be cut out. This will be done much later when the structure has been well reinforced by additional members.
The last picture shows the strake of bilge ceiling extended forward along the lower futtock heads to intersect with the lower deck clamp.
All of these members are being epoxy bolted through the frames as they are installed to provide the primary strength to the joints with the frames. Glue alone is not enough, especially where there is strapping.
Ed
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Part 49 – Hull cleanup, Port side ceiling
Before moving to the interior of the port side, I wanted to remove the protruding bilge ceiling bolts on the starboard side of the hull. There will be many more of these to be added but the installed wires are a hazard. The first picture shows the epoxied through-bolts being clipped off.
The remaining bolt stubs and epoxy were then filed off as shown below. A fine cut file works best for this because it doesn’t “grab” on the wire.
The next picture shows the lower hull sanded after removal of the bolt heads.
The next picture is a close up showing how the iron strapping will appear between the frames. Most of the strapping on the inside will be covered with planking.
The copper wire bolts are bright in this picture and will be blackened later, just before applying finish to the hull.
The next picture shows the start of work on the port side with the installation of the first strip of bilge ceiling near midship.
This first strip is installed just below the heads of the first futtocks. This sets the line of the bilge ceiling that the other strakes will follow. There are four more thick strakes below this. Above it, thick members extend up to the lower deck clamp as on the starboard side. It may seem odd to install this before the strapping, but I did it for two reasons. First, I wanted a very secure joint with the frames, especially on this side where a number of frames will be removed above this joint and below the middle deck clamp – to provide view ports into the hull. Secondly, the pins shown in this picture were used to correct any irregular spacing between the frames. This had to be done before strapping. After gluing and before removing the clamps, most of these pins were replaced by copper bolts.
The next picture shows the first section of lower deck clamp being installed.
In this picture and the one that follows, the frames marked “X” will be cut out between the lower futtock heads and the middle deck clamp to provide the view ports.
The next picture shows the strapping covering all but the forward view port area. There will be three of these view ports, one at each mast.
Sections of the deck clamps have also been added. The lower deck clamp is not glued or bolted to the “X” frames, but the frames are securely bolted to the clamps above. Note from the “X’s” that there are three groups of three frames to be cut out. This will be done much later when the structure has been well reinforced by additional members.
The last picture shows the strake of bilge ceiling extended forward along the lower futtock heads to intersect with the lower deck clamp.
All of these members are being epoxy bolted through the frames as they are installed to provide the primary strength to the joints with the frames. Glue alone is not enough, especially where there is strapping.
Ed
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Part 49 – Hull cleanup, Port side ceiling
Before moving to the interior of the port side, I wanted to remove the protruding bilge ceiling bolts on the starboard side of the hull. There will be many more of these to be added but the installed wires are a hazard. The first picture shows the epoxied through-bolts being clipped off.
The remaining bolt stubs and epoxy were then filed off as shown below. A fine cut file works best for this because it doesn’t “grab” on the wire.
The next picture shows the lower hull sanded after removal of the bolt heads.
The next picture is a close up showing how the iron strapping will appear between the frames. Most of the strapping on the inside will be covered with planking.
The copper wire bolts are bright in this picture and will be blackened later, just before applying finish to the hull.
The next picture shows the start of work on the port side with the installation of the first strip of bilge ceiling near midship.
This first strip is installed just below the heads of the first futtocks. This sets the line of the bilge ceiling that the other strakes will follow. There are four more thick strakes below this. Above it, thick members extend up to the lower deck clamp as on the starboard side. It may seem odd to install this before the strapping, but I did it for two reasons. First, I wanted a very secure joint with the frames, especially on this side where a number of frames will be removed above this joint and below the middle deck clamp – to provide view ports into the hull. Secondly, the pins shown in this picture were used to correct any irregular spacing between the frames. This had to be done before strapping. After gluing and before removing the clamps, most of these pins were replaced by copper bolts.
The next picture shows the first section of lower deck clamp being installed.
In this picture and the one that follows, the frames marked “X” will be cut out between the lower futtock heads and the middle deck clamp to provide the view ports.
The next picture shows the strapping covering all but the forward view port area. There will be three of these view ports, one at each mast.
Sections of the deck clamps have also been added. The lower deck clamp is not glued or bolted to the “X” frames, but the frames are securely bolted to the clamps above. Note from the “X’s” that there are three groups of three frames to be cut out. This will be done much later when the structure has been well reinforced by additional members.
The last picture shows the strake of bilge ceiling extended forward along the lower futtock heads to intersect with the lower deck clamp.
All of these members are being epoxy bolted through the frames as they are installed to provide the primary strength to the joints with the frames. Glue alone is not enough, especially where there is strapping.
Ed
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Part 49 – Hull cleanup, Port side ceiling
Before moving to the interior of the port side, I wanted to remove the protruding bilge ceiling bolts on the starboard side of the hull. There will be many more of these to be added but the installed wires are a hazard. The first picture shows the epoxied through-bolts being clipped off.
The remaining bolt stubs and epoxy were then filed off as shown below. A fine cut file works best for this because it doesn’t “grab” on the wire.
The next picture shows the lower hull sanded after removal of the bolt heads.
The next picture is a close up showing how the iron strapping will appear between the frames. Most of the strapping on the inside will be covered with planking.
The copper wire bolts are bright in this picture and will be blackened later, just before applying finish to the hull.
The next picture shows the start of work on the port side with the installation of the first strip of bilge ceiling near midship.
This first strip is installed just below the heads of the first futtocks. This sets the line of the bilge ceiling that the other strakes will follow. There are four more thick strakes below this. Above it, thick members extend up to the lower deck clamp as on the starboard side. It may seem odd to install this before the strapping, but I did it for two reasons. First, I wanted a very secure joint with the frames, especially on this side where a number of frames will be removed above this joint and below the middle deck clamp – to provide view ports into the hull. Secondly, the pins shown in this picture were used to correct any irregular spacing between the frames. This had to be done before strapping. After gluing and before removing the clamps, most of these pins were replaced by copper bolts.
The next picture shows the first section of lower deck clamp being installed.
In this picture and the one that follows, the frames marked “X” will be cut out between the lower futtock heads and the middle deck clamp to provide the view ports.
The next picture shows the strapping covering all but the forward view port area. There will be three of these view ports, one at each mast.
Sections of the deck clamps have also been added. The lower deck clamp is not glued or bolted to the “X” frames, but the frames are securely bolted to the clamps above. Note from the “X’s” that there are three groups of three frames to be cut out. This will be done much later when the structure has been well reinforced by additional members.
The last picture shows the strake of bilge ceiling extended forward along the lower futtock heads to intersect with the lower deck clamp.
All of these members are being epoxy bolted through the frames as they are installed to provide the primary strength to the joints with the frames. Glue alone is not enough, especially where there is strapping.
Ed
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Part 47 – Bilge and Floor Ceiling
The first picture shows the 8” thick bilge ceiling being extended up the underside of the lower deck clamp. The clamp would have been edge bolted down into these thick members. With the clamps and frames they formed a sort of girder over the length of the hull to combat hogging.
I mentioned earlier that these 8” x 8” bilge ceiling members required some serious clamping to close their joints. The next picture shows some remodeled clamps used to assist in this work.
In these clamps the old jaws were replaced with stronger versions. I used the strongest wood I could find in my old scraps collection. The dark colored jaws are black walnut and the lighter ones hickory from and old axe handle. The walnut clamps had the ends of their jaws narrowed down to fit between the frames from the outside. The next picture shows a pair of these being used to close up a joint.
Up near the deck clamp, soft pine wedges could be used to close the joints as shown in the next picture.
The next picture shows the hull inverted so the epoxy bolts on the outside could be sanded off – to help save my hands when working from the outside. There are many more of these bolts to add as the bilge ceiling progresses.
The next picture shows the first few strakes of 4” thick floor ceiling installed. The contortions from the convex to the concave hull shape made this interesting at the ends.
All of this 4” and 8” thick ceiling was of hard pine, so I am using Castello for it. Pear is being used for all oak. The next picture shows a strake being installed using .021" pleating pins in tight drilled holes to hold it in place when glued.
The dark area is wet from washing off glue from between the strakes. One edge of these planks is coated with dark brown latex paint (before ripping) and dark glue has been used on that face. Plain yellow glue was used on the frames and washed off from the outside between the frames with a wet toothbrush. In the next picture the floor ceiling has been completed down to the limber channel.
Several stealers had to be installed so the final strake would be parallel to the keelson. The next picture shows the limber channel.
When this picture was taken, the planking had been leveled out with rifflers and some sanding. Bolts were then installed at the ends of each plank. Each plank will next be treenailed at every frame. Can’t wait.
Ed
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Part 49 – Hull cleanup, Port side ceiling
Before moving to the interior of the port side, I wanted to remove the protruding bilge ceiling bolts on the starboard side of the hull. There will be many more of these to be added but the installed wires are a hazard. The first picture shows the epoxied through-bolts being clipped off.
The remaining bolt stubs and epoxy were then filed off as shown below. A fine cut file works best for this because it doesn’t “grab” on the wire.
The next picture shows the lower hull sanded after removal of the bolt heads.
The next picture is a close up showing how the iron strapping will appear between the frames. Most of the strapping on the inside will be covered with planking.
The copper wire bolts are bright in this picture and will be blackened later, just before applying finish to the hull.
The next picture shows the start of work on the port side with the installation of the first strip of bilge ceiling near midship.
This first strip is installed just below the heads of the first futtocks. This sets the line of the bilge ceiling that the other strakes will follow. There are four more thick strakes below this. Above it, thick members extend up to the lower deck clamp as on the starboard side. It may seem odd to install this before the strapping, but I did it for two reasons. First, I wanted a very secure joint with the frames, especially on this side where a number of frames will be removed above this joint and below the middle deck clamp – to provide view ports into the hull. Secondly, the pins shown in this picture were used to correct any irregular spacing between the frames. This had to be done before strapping. After gluing and before removing the clamps, most of these pins were replaced by copper bolts.
The next picture shows the first section of lower deck clamp being installed.
In this picture and the one that follows, the frames marked “X” will be cut out between the lower futtock heads and the middle deck clamp to provide the view ports.
The next picture shows the strapping covering all but the forward view port area. There will be three of these view ports, one at each mast.
Sections of the deck clamps have also been added. The lower deck clamp is not glued or bolted to the “X” frames, but the frames are securely bolted to the clamps above. Note from the “X’s” that there are three groups of three frames to be cut out. This will be done much later when the structure has been well reinforced by additional members.
The last picture shows the strake of bilge ceiling extended forward along the lower futtock heads to intersect with the lower deck clamp.
All of these members are being epoxy bolted through the frames as they are installed to provide the primary strength to the joints with the frames. Glue alone is not enough, especially where there is strapping.
Ed
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Part 48 – Starboard Ceiling Treenailing and Bolting
In the first picture, the floor ceiling planking is installed except for Treenailing. The thicker bilge ceiling above it has been completed up to the underside of the lower deck clamp, except for the bolting.
While the last few strakes of bilge ceiling were being installed both the bolting and treenailing was begun. The next picture shows some of these fasteners installed.
The copper wire bolts in the thicker ceiling show as bright dots in this picture. They were iron bolts driven through each frame and riveted flush inside and out. Before finish is applied these will be blackened. This section of floor planking below the thicker strakes has been treenailed and some sanding has begun. The butt ends of these planks were secured with iron blunts, represented here by black monofilament CA glued in.
All of the tree nailing was completed in three sessions that included making the treenail strips from bamboo skewers. In the next picture one of these .020” strips has been dipped in glue and is being inserted into a predrilled hole.
The holes are just large enough for a slip fit. After pressing to the bottom of the hole using the clippers, the strip is cut off as shown below, the new end is sharpened with a razor blade and the process is repeated a few hundred times.
The excess glue is washed off with clean water. When dry the nail heads are filed off flush as shown below.
The planking was then sanded with 120-grit followed by 220-grit paper and then buffed with Scotchbrite as shown below.
The next picture shows the area at the stern after these steps.
The next picture shows a section of the ceiling after all of the treenailing was installed and the planking sanded and buffed.
The wire bolting of the thicker strakes is only partially complete on the right side of this picture. The treenails are not too pronounced in this picture, but they will “pop out” and be more visible when finish is applied later. The iron bolts at the butts are quite visible here. The copper bolts into the top of the keelson at the lower margin of the picture were copper and will not be blacked.
All of the ceiling work on the starboard side is now complete. The next step will be to sand down the bolts on the outside of the frames and then move on to the ceiling on the port side.
Ed
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EdT reacted to michael mott in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Sailor I checked out the net , what a great bunch of images for shackles.
Used to sail, Thanks.
Nils thanks, I need quite a few it seems.
Today I did some work on the cockpit cap, I soaked some spruce for an hour or so while I made a former to bend the wood.
I will be using 5 strips to create the rough form once they are prepared I will glue them together.
I used a sheet of 6 mm aircraft ply to make the basic shape and bolted it to a sheet of 6mm plex
The sharp corners were not easy and I think that I will need to bend up a few more strips I did these first ones cold but I will use some hot pieces for the next strips I clamped them using some drop in pegs and wedges.
Michael
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EdT reacted to michael mott in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Thank you all for the "likes"
Sailor, thanks for the compliment.
Denis, Thanks, I really do enjoy working with Metal, although it does have its quirks.
today I unclamped the strips for the cockpit cap and began to think about the next steps which led me to cut a wider strip of a slightly thinner piece measuring .259 high x .040 inches thick which will be glued to the inside first to act as a lip for the top strips which are .190 x .050 inches. I did try using a curling iron but it was a bit too big in diameter, the Admiral was at work (shhh) I ended up plugging in the soldering station dialing back the temperature to about the half way point on the dial. slowly moved it back and forth whilst applying pressure to the strip to freehand the curves. It was then clamped into the cockpit to dry.
While it was drying I cut a short 2 1/2 inch section off the 3 inch diameter log of English Boxwood Buxus sempervirens to make some larger blocks for the boom and the main sheet the top one will be a triple and the lower a double both 8 inches in scale. after squaring it up I cut some pieces which are 3/4 x 1/8 inches by 2 1/2 inches long laying out the ovals for the blocks, it occurred to me that I would end up with a larger more useful offcut if I drew the ovals at each end of the wood.
As I was fretting the ovals out it dawned on me that there were two cleats just hidden there waiting to be found, I think seeing Doris' wood cleats must have been lurking there in my subconscious.
I was happy to make this discovery and now I will have a few cleats to shape up as well.
Michael
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EdT reacted to michael mott in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Thanks for all the likes.
"It really is amazing what we can find lurking in the wood isn't it?"
Steve yes it happens when one is open to options.
Bob Had I been more conservative I would have cut a shorter piece of the end of the small log and would have also missed it.
Daniel, thanks.
Today was a good day for clamping.
The inside cover was glued first and now the task of adding the layers one piece at a time.
After the rest are glued up then I will shape the profile
Michael
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Part 48 – Starboard Ceiling Treenailing and Bolting
In the first picture, the floor ceiling planking is installed except for Treenailing. The thicker bilge ceiling above it has been completed up to the underside of the lower deck clamp, except for the bolting.
While the last few strakes of bilge ceiling were being installed both the bolting and treenailing was begun. The next picture shows some of these fasteners installed.
The copper wire bolts in the thicker ceiling show as bright dots in this picture. They were iron bolts driven through each frame and riveted flush inside and out. Before finish is applied these will be blackened. This section of floor planking below the thicker strakes has been treenailed and some sanding has begun. The butt ends of these planks were secured with iron blunts, represented here by black monofilament CA glued in.
All of the tree nailing was completed in three sessions that included making the treenail strips from bamboo skewers. In the next picture one of these .020” strips has been dipped in glue and is being inserted into a predrilled hole.
The holes are just large enough for a slip fit. After pressing to the bottom of the hole using the clippers, the strip is cut off as shown below, the new end is sharpened with a razor blade and the process is repeated a few hundred times.
The excess glue is washed off with clean water. When dry the nail heads are filed off flush as shown below.
The planking was then sanded with 120-grit followed by 220-grit paper and then buffed with Scotchbrite as shown below.
The next picture shows the area at the stern after these steps.
The next picture shows a section of the ceiling after all of the treenailing was installed and the planking sanded and buffed.
The wire bolting of the thicker strakes is only partially complete on the right side of this picture. The treenails are not too pronounced in this picture, but they will “pop out” and be more visible when finish is applied later. The iron bolts at the butts are quite visible here. The copper bolts into the top of the keelson at the lower margin of the picture were copper and will not be blacked.
All of the ceiling work on the starboard side is now complete. The next step will be to sand down the bolts on the outside of the frames and then move on to the ceiling on the port side.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from Wintergreen in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 48 – Starboard Ceiling Treenailing and Bolting
In the first picture, the floor ceiling planking is installed except for Treenailing. The thicker bilge ceiling above it has been completed up to the underside of the lower deck clamp, except for the bolting.
While the last few strakes of bilge ceiling were being installed both the bolting and treenailing was begun. The next picture shows some of these fasteners installed.
The copper wire bolts in the thicker ceiling show as bright dots in this picture. They were iron bolts driven through each frame and riveted flush inside and out. Before finish is applied these will be blackened. This section of floor planking below the thicker strakes has been treenailed and some sanding has begun. The butt ends of these planks were secured with iron blunts, represented here by black monofilament CA glued in.
All of the tree nailing was completed in three sessions that included making the treenail strips from bamboo skewers. In the next picture one of these .020” strips has been dipped in glue and is being inserted into a predrilled hole.
The holes are just large enough for a slip fit. After pressing to the bottom of the hole using the clippers, the strip is cut off as shown below, the new end is sharpened with a razor blade and the process is repeated a few hundred times.
The excess glue is washed off with clean water. When dry the nail heads are filed off flush as shown below.
The planking was then sanded with 120-grit followed by 220-grit paper and then buffed with Scotchbrite as shown below.
The next picture shows the area at the stern after these steps.
The next picture shows a section of the ceiling after all of the treenailing was installed and the planking sanded and buffed.
The wire bolting of the thicker strakes is only partially complete on the right side of this picture. The treenails are not too pronounced in this picture, but they will “pop out” and be more visible when finish is applied later. The iron bolts at the butts are quite visible here. The copper bolts into the top of the keelson at the lower margin of the picture were copper and will not be blacked.
All of the ceiling work on the starboard side is now complete. The next step will be to sand down the bolts on the outside of the frames and then move on to the ceiling on the port side.
Ed
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EdT got a reaction from butch in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
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Part 48 – Starboard Ceiling Treenailing and Bolting
In the first picture, the floor ceiling planking is installed except for Treenailing. The thicker bilge ceiling above it has been completed up to the underside of the lower deck clamp, except for the bolting.
While the last few strakes of bilge ceiling were being installed both the bolting and treenailing was begun. The next picture shows some of these fasteners installed.
The copper wire bolts in the thicker ceiling show as bright dots in this picture. They were iron bolts driven through each frame and riveted flush inside and out. Before finish is applied these will be blackened. This section of floor planking below the thicker strakes has been treenailed and some sanding has begun. The butt ends of these planks were secured with iron blunts, represented here by black monofilament CA glued in.
All of the tree nailing was completed in three sessions that included making the treenail strips from bamboo skewers. In the next picture one of these .020” strips has been dipped in glue and is being inserted into a predrilled hole.
The holes are just large enough for a slip fit. After pressing to the bottom of the hole using the clippers, the strip is cut off as shown below, the new end is sharpened with a razor blade and the process is repeated a few hundred times.
The excess glue is washed off with clean water. When dry the nail heads are filed off flush as shown below.
The planking was then sanded with 120-grit followed by 220-grit paper and then buffed with Scotchbrite as shown below.
The next picture shows the area at the stern after these steps.
The next picture shows a section of the ceiling after all of the treenailing was installed and the planking sanded and buffed.
The wire bolting of the thicker strakes is only partially complete on the right side of this picture. The treenails are not too pronounced in this picture, but they will “pop out” and be more visible when finish is applied later. The iron bolts at the butts are quite visible here. The copper bolts into the top of the keelson at the lower margin of the picture were copper and will not be blacked.
All of the ceiling work on the starboard side is now complete. The next step will be to sand down the bolts on the outside of the frames and then move on to the ceiling on the port side.
Ed
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Part 48 – Starboard Ceiling Treenailing and Bolting
In the first picture, the floor ceiling planking is installed except for Treenailing. The thicker bilge ceiling above it has been completed up to the underside of the lower deck clamp, except for the bolting.
While the last few strakes of bilge ceiling were being installed both the bolting and treenailing was begun. The next picture shows some of these fasteners installed.
The copper wire bolts in the thicker ceiling show as bright dots in this picture. They were iron bolts driven through each frame and riveted flush inside and out. Before finish is applied these will be blackened. This section of floor planking below the thicker strakes has been treenailed and some sanding has begun. The butt ends of these planks were secured with iron blunts, represented here by black monofilament CA glued in.
All of the tree nailing was completed in three sessions that included making the treenail strips from bamboo skewers. In the next picture one of these .020” strips has been dipped in glue and is being inserted into a predrilled hole.
The holes are just large enough for a slip fit. After pressing to the bottom of the hole using the clippers, the strip is cut off as shown below, the new end is sharpened with a razor blade and the process is repeated a few hundred times.
The excess glue is washed off with clean water. When dry the nail heads are filed off flush as shown below.
The planking was then sanded with 120-grit followed by 220-grit paper and then buffed with Scotchbrite as shown below.
The next picture shows the area at the stern after these steps.
The next picture shows a section of the ceiling after all of the treenailing was installed and the planking sanded and buffed.
The wire bolting of the thicker strakes is only partially complete on the right side of this picture. The treenails are not too pronounced in this picture, but they will “pop out” and be more visible when finish is applied later. The iron bolts at the butts are quite visible here. The copper bolts into the top of the keelson at the lower margin of the picture were copper and will not be blacked.
All of the ceiling work on the starboard side is now complete. The next step will be to sand down the bolts on the outside of the frames and then move on to the ceiling on the port side.
Ed
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Part 48 – Starboard Ceiling Treenailing and Bolting
In the first picture, the floor ceiling planking is installed except for Treenailing. The thicker bilge ceiling above it has been completed up to the underside of the lower deck clamp, except for the bolting.
While the last few strakes of bilge ceiling were being installed both the bolting and treenailing was begun. The next picture shows some of these fasteners installed.
The copper wire bolts in the thicker ceiling show as bright dots in this picture. They were iron bolts driven through each frame and riveted flush inside and out. Before finish is applied these will be blackened. This section of floor planking below the thicker strakes has been treenailed and some sanding has begun. The butt ends of these planks were secured with iron blunts, represented here by black monofilament CA glued in.
All of the tree nailing was completed in three sessions that included making the treenail strips from bamboo skewers. In the next picture one of these .020” strips has been dipped in glue and is being inserted into a predrilled hole.
The holes are just large enough for a slip fit. After pressing to the bottom of the hole using the clippers, the strip is cut off as shown below, the new end is sharpened with a razor blade and the process is repeated a few hundred times.
The excess glue is washed off with clean water. When dry the nail heads are filed off flush as shown below.
The planking was then sanded with 120-grit followed by 220-grit paper and then buffed with Scotchbrite as shown below.
The next picture shows the area at the stern after these steps.
The next picture shows a section of the ceiling after all of the treenailing was installed and the planking sanded and buffed.
The wire bolting of the thicker strakes is only partially complete on the right side of this picture. The treenails are not too pronounced in this picture, but they will “pop out” and be more visible when finish is applied later. The iron bolts at the butts are quite visible here. The copper bolts into the top of the keelson at the lower margin of the picture were copper and will not be blacked.
All of the ceiling work on the starboard side is now complete. The next step will be to sand down the bolts on the outside of the frames and then move on to the ceiling on the port side.
Ed
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Part 45 –Inboard members continued, Stern fairing and half-frame bolting continued.
American Clipper Historical Note: In 19th Century America, forest resources were plentiful, in fact they seemed limitless. For these reasons, and due to the immaturity of the American iron industry, ships with wood structures continued to be built throughout the century and into the 20th. Several domestic species found their way into American-built ships. White oak, very similar in species to English oak was the primary material used for structural components. However, the less plentiful but superior species, live oak from forests in the southeastern states, was often specified for critical components. It was almost 50% stronger than white oak and the shape of the growth lent itself to knees and curved members. Joshua Humphreys specified live oak for the original American 44-gun frigates and crews from the northern shipyards went south to harvest the requirements. Another southern species that was widely used in American ships was hard pine, also known as longleaf pine. This plentiful timber had 90% of the strength of white oak and was roughly the same weight. Hard pine was used for beams, planking and knees. White pine, the species most associated with the term “pine,” was lighter, softer and less strong – only about 50% in strength compared to white oak. It was often used in planking weather decks. Other species of pine – pitch pine, yellow pine, red pine – were also used. Another important species was black locust. Its hardness, straightness and strength – 35% stronger than white oak - found wide use for treenails and often for pillars. Various other structural woods were used, but these were the primary species.
Young America’s structure was largely white oak – most frames, central sections of the keel and keelson, stem, stern posts, hanging knees. But it is very probable that a significant number of important members were of live oak – parts of keel and keelson, keelson riders, hooks, some frame timbers. Hard pine was used for beams, inboard and outboard planking, waterways, deck clamps, binding strakes, lower deck planking and deadwood. Lodging knees would have been pitch pine. Exposed decks were white pine. Pillars and treenails were locust. Other decorative works were of other species and will be described later.
For the model, I an using Swiss pear wherever oak – white or live – was used. Hard and pitch pine members will be Castelo. Weather decks may be holly – not decided. Most of the work covered so far has been in pear, but Castelo has been evident in the last few posts in the bilge ceiling and deck clamp construction.
Work described in the last part continued. In the first picture the deadwood near the sternpost is being smoothed with a #0 cut Grobet riffler after paring with gouges.
When the fairing of the aft part of the lower hull was finished, the bolts securing the aft half and cant frames were installed. The next picture shows this in progress.
Holes were drilled deep into the keelson/deadwood. Copper wire dipped in epoxy was then inserted and moved in and out to distribute the glue internally. The wire was then clipped off as shown. The stains on the wood in the picture are from isopropanol used to wash off excess epoxy and has not yet dried. The heads of the bolts will be sanded off flush and blackened just before the final wood finish is applied. They were iron.
The next picture shows the lower hull after this bolting. Bolts will be much more visible when black.
Finish sanding and polishing of these areas will be done later. The next picture shows the stern framing from directly aft.
Work inside the hull on the strapping, deck clamps and bilge ceiling continued. In the next picture a strake is being glued on the upper side of the band. Strapping below the bilge ceiling has been added.
One of the lower strakes is being glued in the next picture.
After the glue has dried, all of these strakes are bolted through every frame with epoxy at both ends of each bolt. These bolts, also iron, will be blackened later.
This internal work is going to take some time. I switch between iron strapping and ceiling planks when I can - to battle the tedium of repetitive work – not my strong suit.
Ed
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Hello Alan,
Thanks for responding to my post. Please do not feel that you need to respond to these comments. I made my peace with all these issues long ago and only offer comments that I think may be helpful. I am glad to do that - for what they are worth.
I suggest you give some thought to the frame bevelling before lofting patterns. I believe many modelers leave the bevels to the sandpaper, but keep in mind that the frames need to be bevelled inside and out. Patterns need to account for this. Patterns from reliable draftsman do that in a way to enable the bevels to be sanded inside and out with enough wood left to meet the molded thickness requirements of the frame when your finished sanding. Also, keep in mind that at the forward and aft ends, bevels become quite extreme and require installation of very thick frames if unbevelled. Cant frame bevels are a story in themselves.
Some modelers partially pre-bevel - if the patterns show the bevels. I did this for Naiad where all four profiles for every frame were lofted. On Young America patterns also included all four profiles and with the assembly process used - enabled by the CAD lofting method - left patterns on both fore and aft faces of every frame pair after assembly. This enabled the frames to be completely bevelled before erection - as was done in he shipyard. I am not sure if anyone is doing this besides me but I would not go back.
Why do this pre-bevelling? Sanding/paring inside the hull is a pain. Erection of bevelled frames is much easier. It is also more accurate. You can check the hull fairness as the frames are erected. There are many ways to skin this cat. I only offer this as food for thought. I'm not in the persuasion business.
Have fun - and good luch with the project.
Ed
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Part 48 – Starboard Ceiling Treenailing and Bolting
In the first picture, the floor ceiling planking is installed except for Treenailing. The thicker bilge ceiling above it has been completed up to the underside of the lower deck clamp, except for the bolting.
While the last few strakes of bilge ceiling were being installed both the bolting and treenailing was begun. The next picture shows some of these fasteners installed.
The copper wire bolts in the thicker ceiling show as bright dots in this picture. They were iron bolts driven through each frame and riveted flush inside and out. Before finish is applied these will be blackened. This section of floor planking below the thicker strakes has been treenailed and some sanding has begun. The butt ends of these planks were secured with iron blunts, represented here by black monofilament CA glued in.
All of the tree nailing was completed in three sessions that included making the treenail strips from bamboo skewers. In the next picture one of these .020” strips has been dipped in glue and is being inserted into a predrilled hole.
The holes are just large enough for a slip fit. After pressing to the bottom of the hole using the clippers, the strip is cut off as shown below, the new end is sharpened with a razor blade and the process is repeated a few hundred times.
The excess glue is washed off with clean water. When dry the nail heads are filed off flush as shown below.
The planking was then sanded with 120-grit followed by 220-grit paper and then buffed with Scotchbrite as shown below.
The next picture shows the area at the stern after these steps.
The next picture shows a section of the ceiling after all of the treenailing was installed and the planking sanded and buffed.
The wire bolting of the thicker strakes is only partially complete on the right side of this picture. The treenails are not too pronounced in this picture, but they will “pop out” and be more visible when finish is applied later. The iron bolts at the butts are quite visible here. The copper bolts into the top of the keelson at the lower margin of the picture were copper and will not be blacked.
All of the ceiling work on the starboard side is now complete. The next step will be to sand down the bolts on the outside of the frames and then move on to the ceiling on the port side.
Ed
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Part 48 – Starboard Ceiling Treenailing and Bolting
In the first picture, the floor ceiling planking is installed except for Treenailing. The thicker bilge ceiling above it has been completed up to the underside of the lower deck clamp, except for the bolting.
While the last few strakes of bilge ceiling were being installed both the bolting and treenailing was begun. The next picture shows some of these fasteners installed.
The copper wire bolts in the thicker ceiling show as bright dots in this picture. They were iron bolts driven through each frame and riveted flush inside and out. Before finish is applied these will be blackened. This section of floor planking below the thicker strakes has been treenailed and some sanding has begun. The butt ends of these planks were secured with iron blunts, represented here by black monofilament CA glued in.
All of the tree nailing was completed in three sessions that included making the treenail strips from bamboo skewers. In the next picture one of these .020” strips has been dipped in glue and is being inserted into a predrilled hole.
The holes are just large enough for a slip fit. After pressing to the bottom of the hole using the clippers, the strip is cut off as shown below, the new end is sharpened with a razor blade and the process is repeated a few hundred times.
The excess glue is washed off with clean water. When dry the nail heads are filed off flush as shown below.
The planking was then sanded with 120-grit followed by 220-grit paper and then buffed with Scotchbrite as shown below.
The next picture shows the area at the stern after these steps.
The next picture shows a section of the ceiling after all of the treenailing was installed and the planking sanded and buffed.
The wire bolting of the thicker strakes is only partially complete on the right side of this picture. The treenails are not too pronounced in this picture, but they will “pop out” and be more visible when finish is applied later. The iron bolts at the butts are quite visible here. The copper bolts into the top of the keelson at the lower margin of the picture were copper and will not be blacked.
All of the ceiling work on the starboard side is now complete. The next step will be to sand down the bolts on the outside of the frames and then move on to the ceiling on the port side.
Ed
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Part 48 – Starboard Ceiling Treenailing and Bolting
In the first picture, the floor ceiling planking is installed except for Treenailing. The thicker bilge ceiling above it has been completed up to the underside of the lower deck clamp, except for the bolting.
While the last few strakes of bilge ceiling were being installed both the bolting and treenailing was begun. The next picture shows some of these fasteners installed.
The copper wire bolts in the thicker ceiling show as bright dots in this picture. They were iron bolts driven through each frame and riveted flush inside and out. Before finish is applied these will be blackened. This section of floor planking below the thicker strakes has been treenailed and some sanding has begun. The butt ends of these planks were secured with iron blunts, represented here by black monofilament CA glued in.
All of the tree nailing was completed in three sessions that included making the treenail strips from bamboo skewers. In the next picture one of these .020” strips has been dipped in glue and is being inserted into a predrilled hole.
The holes are just large enough for a slip fit. After pressing to the bottom of the hole using the clippers, the strip is cut off as shown below, the new end is sharpened with a razor blade and the process is repeated a few hundred times.
The excess glue is washed off with clean water. When dry the nail heads are filed off flush as shown below.
The planking was then sanded with 120-grit followed by 220-grit paper and then buffed with Scotchbrite as shown below.
The next picture shows the area at the stern after these steps.
The next picture shows a section of the ceiling after all of the treenailing was installed and the planking sanded and buffed.
The wire bolting of the thicker strakes is only partially complete on the right side of this picture. The treenails are not too pronounced in this picture, but they will “pop out” and be more visible when finish is applied later. The iron bolts at the butts are quite visible here. The copper bolts into the top of the keelson at the lower margin of the picture were copper and will not be blacked.
All of the ceiling work on the starboard side is now complete. The next step will be to sand down the bolts on the outside of the frames and then move on to the ceiling on the port side.
Ed