Omega1234

Hi Jond
 
I love that second last photo of the 'cut and sanded' hull. Ain't no doubt about the beauty of a planked hull, especially with the symmetry of the planking. For me, it's one of those moments that reminds why I admire it so much when art and practicality come together to produce a sweet looking hull.
 
Nice!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Hi Jond
 
I love that second last photo of the 'cut and sanded' hull. Ain't no doubt about the beauty of a planked hull, especially with the symmetry of the planking. For me, it's one of those moments that reminds why I admire it so much when art and practicality come together to produce a sweet looking hull.
 
Nice!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Hi Jond
 
I love that second last photo of the 'cut and sanded' hull. Ain't no doubt about the beauty of a planked hull, especially with the symmetry of the planking. For me, it's one of those moments that reminds why I admire it so much when art and practicality come together to produce a sweet looking hull.
 
Nice!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

I remember those feelings also. Got them a few times on the different work sites. Show 'em what to do and even demonstrate how to do it, and they still get it wrong. Yeah ---- I've "lost it" a few times!  

To all those who some day would want to build your own model BHOD ,  I hope you find the planking step as much fun as I do.  
 
We have had a busy week here in the harbor as work day came at the club and the final club boats were tarped up for winter as more friends left for warmer climates.  I even put our little pond dock to sleep for winter today as well.  The chase boat is on its sleepers almost ready for a winter nap. Despite all of this. I want to get come progress on this build before a few trips take up our time.  The good news is we have spectacular color in the foliage again. Funny though  that means we are into fall clean up too.
 
Building this hull I remind all this is a proto type.  I am trying to build it in a way that others can follow. That means others who are not experienced museum quality builders as so many are in this forum.   The  materiel is accessible and reasonable to work with. That being said there are definitely a few tricky areas.  I learned some good lessons going through this step.  These lessons will be a challenge to hopefully solved and avoided in the second hull to be started next month.
 
here we go
 
step 2 Planking
 
Picking up where we left off, the first need was to carve up a transom with blocking and get the bow blocking properly aligned.  to do this one needs to extend the shear plank and test the alignment and sand and get it right.  
 
 here I had sanded and re-sanded the blocking as I fit the planking to the forms about four times, but I think we are there..... See the nice fit of the planks at the tip of bow...ha ha  stand by for the lesson learned.    
 the transom went pretty quick. I like soft pine for the blocking like the bow. It is easy to sand, glue and drill into for screws and toothpick pegs.  For this prototype I plan to have a painted transom. If one chooses to have mahogany, this would be the same but it must be about 1/8 inch further forward to stay inside the boat length.  [ the mahonagy would go on after planking.   I would use 1/8 planks glued together., similar to those planned for cockpit combing later.  the edge would be exposed and real ones are also laminated.  I will try it on hull 2.  
I said I would move along and only record things that are different or unique to this build.  That requirement did not take long.
 There is quite twist in the planking. The planks will be visible on the inside of the cockpit, so I chose to run planks all the way through as long as they ran off the transom and needed only one cut end.  Due to the multiple twists as well as side bending, I ended up having to use temporary screws to hold the wet planks to dry to shape.....that is another reason for solid blocking at the bow and transom.  I did cut the planks when I got below the floor line.  
 we have a concave..."reverse curve" at the bow.  Very quickly I found a need to use several screws on each plank. The planks are tight on the inside due to the curve and  loose on the outside.... that is fine.  The outside will be filled before fiber glass. Using the 5/16" width gives a good enough curve I found on previous hulls and so far so good here.     Again this makes this an easier process to build.   Checking the plans the planks are about 5 inches by 1/2" cedar.  that would mean 3/4 wide and just over 1/8 thick.  I am not sure what material could bend at that scale. i wanted to use cedar, so I do not apologize for just under half size planks.  
....OK  here is our first  lesson learned  and possible oops.   The reverse curve pulled apart the three planks at the stem as I screwed in tight at station 0..   The fix was to file and insert a 1/16 plywood cut to form of the stem.  I then ran the piece all the way to the keel, so each plank would end on this piece.  This  trim piece should give a crisp line after sanding.   the oops was not knowing its need and not having it all the way around the bow before planking..  hull 2 shall have it!.    I had assumed i could achieve that by sanding......we'll see.  
 here we are progressing.  3 or four planks are glued and drying while the next 3-4 are being installed, secured and hopefully drying to shape.  
 here I  have installed a filler piece as well.  I always planned this one as the dimension across the keel is perfect at two planks plus 1/16 inch center trim piece.    well here we are all planked and one rough sanding done.  There are a few  items loose and then we need to figure out how to dress up the bow.  where the trim piece was added it seams simple. controled sanding and filing is my approach. what ever we do gets covered with cloth and glass then filed sanded filled etc.  we'll fix it.   
 
 here we have cut and sanded planks back to the transom.  If we were going to use mahogany I would use 1/8" solid boards. they would be added to this structure as one wants to cover the ends of the planks.     One would need to shorten the placement of the transom that 1/8" *** part of the planning.
 
 
OK  cheers
 

thanks everyone for your interest & comments 
 
I've started work on the keel. I have some nice old Queensland Maple, which I selected because it planes well (unlike most native timbers) & yet is hard enough to resist most knocks (unlike most native timbers that plane well). This timber was logged almost 70 years ago so it should resist further warping. 
 
I'm building it up from thick longitudinal laminations. However, I picked up a measurement error so there's going to have to be another 4-5mm lamination in there as well.
 
The reason for working on it now is that the shape of the keel timber immediately below the garboard is related to the keel shape etc, so roughly shaping it now will help in shaping the lower parts, even though the garboard is done. I'll glue the keel laminations together, shape them & leave it unfixed to the hull until after the planking is completed. Some brass pins will be used to accurately locate the keel, & will also give better purchase for gluing. 
 
One thing that is really showing is how far aft the centre of lateral resistance is on the hull. I take it that this is because of the power of a gaff mainsail, & the way the long boom usually overhangs the transom so there's quite a bit of push a long way aft. 
 
thanks, MP
 
there's another thin lamination required in addition to these

 
2 outlined & in position

Minor update... planking is ongoing but I needed a break.  So back to the longboat.
 
Reworking again... 5th time I think, the form for making the longboat.  1st was the hand carved plug... tossed it.  2nd was the bulkheads like Chuck uses and BE did so well at 1:64...  broke the bulkheads.  3rd was the same using thicker bulkheads, still broke off the framing bits.   4th was a plug that used the laser to cut out... Something hiccupped and it came out 1" too long.  I'm still not sure what happened...  So.. number 5... in all it's glory.  Exact size and I'm happy.   Now to put it together and start adding stuff like frames and keel. 
 

Hey the 5th's a charm. Isn't that what they say? Maybe it's the 3rd. 

I'm not sure how many is the charm anymore, George.   I know I turned the air blue and paint peeled off the walls when the keel didn't fit...and then I discovered what happened.....  Even the dog hid.

I think that cancellation falls into the "oh crap" category....  you have my sympathies as I've run into things like that more than once.   NG should be good.   Take the tests and see where they'll place you. 
 
Byzantium is looking very ship-shape, Lextin. 

Hi Lextin
 
Nice job on the ratlines.
 
I have no idea what the "Master Commission" is, though. Can you explain?
 
Regardless of that, the National Guard sounds pretty darn exciting! Tough, but I'm sure you'll get through it all.
 
Most of all...Good luck!
 
Patrick

Hi Jesse
 
I'm keeping a keen eye out for your next update.
 
She's gonna be a little marvel, for sure.
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Hi Mark
 
Looking really nice! I also gotta say that she's turning out to be a big model, as witnessed by your last couple of shots.
 
Irrespective of size, beautiful work, as always!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Patrick:
The Masters Comission is a 9-month discipleship program that my church does every year. Sadly it was canceled this year due to not enough interest, as only two people (including myself) signed up.
 
 
 
 
Lextin.

Hi Mike
 
Gun ports...don't you just love cutting them out??? Seriously though, they've got to be right up with some of the toughest jobs when building hulls such as yours. You're doing brilliantly, without a doubt.
 
Nice!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Hi Mike
 
Yep, can't argue with Hartmut! Your work's spot on, as always.
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Hi Nenad
 
Please accept my sincerest support for your Mother in Law and yourself.
 
Take care and stay strong.
 
Patrick

Nice work Georgio!
 
You know, your ship reminds me of Lawrence's model which you can see here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9268-annie-m-parker-by-canoe21-fishing-schooner-by-lawrence-scratch-build-scale-150/?hl=%2Bannie+%2Bparker, if you're interested. Both your models are impressive, to say the least.
 
All the best!
 
Patrick

Hi Mike
 
Gun ports...don't you just love cutting them out??? Seriously though, they've got to be right up with some of the toughest jobs when building hulls such as yours. You're doing brilliantly, without a doubt.
 
Nice!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Hi Mark
 
Looking really nice! I also gotta say that she's turning out to be a big model, as witnessed by your last couple of shots.
 
Irrespective of size, beautiful work, as always!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Hi Mark
 
Looking really nice! I also gotta say that she's turning out to be a big model, as witnessed by your last couple of shots.
 
Irrespective of size, beautiful work, as always!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Hi Mike
 
Gun ports...don't you just love cutting them out??? Seriously though, they've got to be right up with some of the toughest jobs when building hulls such as yours. You're doing brilliantly, without a doubt.
 
Nice!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Hi Mike
 
Gun ports...don't you just love cutting them out??? Seriously though, they've got to be right up with some of the toughest jobs when building hulls such as yours. You're doing brilliantly, without a doubt.
 
Nice!
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Hi Jesse
 
I'm keeping a keen eye out for your next update.
 
She's gonna be a little marvel, for sure.
 
Cheers
 
Patrick

Hi Nenad
 
Please accept my sincerest support for your Mother in Law and yourself.
 
Take care and stay strong.
 
Patrick