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Now that I'm finished with the OREGON and WYOMING, I've started on the 1/64 scale 82' WPB kit. This will be a typical BJ solid hull kit with laser, resin, britannia, and photo-etched parts. Hull length is 15.5". The intent is to create a kit that will allow the builder to replicate any of the 79 boats built. The focus will be 82301, the first boat in the group, but will include additional basic details to modify it to later boats. This will include different radar, towing gear, and deck details, plus stuff to do the boats in Viet Nam. The hull master is done and Randy carved me a couple hulls with which to experiment. I've templated one and added the skeg so far. This is the basic kit configuration - WPB82301. That below, WPB82347 POINT BONITA, is one of the later boats. A third general arrangement drawing will show a Viet Nam configuration.
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You're doing a great job! I really enjoyed developing that kit and wish we still had the original display model. It's at the Naval War College in RI. The catwalks/torpedo boat skids are a fun detail.
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You'll get the grand tour if you do! There are about 75 finished models in the gallery. We try to keep one of every kit we sell on display. There are a few missing as they were sold and not yet replaced., WYOMING will be out there in a week or so. Both models are going to the New London show at the end of the month.
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For comparison of the types (SUMNER/GEARING), this is GEARING (DD710) as a FRAM 1. While outwardly similar, you can see the differences in the superstructure, electronics, and armament.
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There are no floater net baskets in the DDG51 kit. BJ sells a 1/192 scale Navy Brass fret that has them, along with lots of other useful items like WT doors, radar screens, ladders, railings, etc.
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We're both talking about the hull below the waterline, right?🙂
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Now that you are at this point, let's talk a bit about the bottom color. After the original display model was built, I discovered a doctoral dissertation from Florida State University that focused on a news reporter named Sylvester. He was present at the raising of the wreck in 1912 and commented that the bottom was as green as the day she was lost. A follow-up conversation with Dana Wegner (Curator of Ship Models at the David Taylor Basin) indicated that during her last yard period, an experimental bottom paint identified only as McInnis Green was applied. We couldn't come up with a color chip so I used FLOQUIL Dark Green to repaint the bottom on the original display model just before she went to the Naval War College. I also have my doubts about her having a black boot top over the red anti-fouling, although there is a photo of her in drydock that shows what certainly appears to be one. If I were to build the kit again today, I would paint her green or leave off the boot top over the red.
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Appreciate your craftsmanship 🙂.
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I've decided to go with the original design (82301) and include the major items fitted to later versions. On 82301, the towing bitt was on the king post/stack and there was a towing bow at the aft pipe rail. On later boats, the towing bow was removed and a tripod towing bitt was mounted on the deck in the same area covered by the towing bow. Radars were different, later boats had the inflatable life raft cannisters and different lockers, and the mast varied somewhat from boat to boat. I may do the Viet Nam fit, but that will probably be a separate fittings kit which will include the 81mm/50 mount, the ready service lockers, additional .50s, the grate around the 81mm mount, and a few other items. Here is 82301 in pre-"racing stripe" days. However, the "racing stripes" will be included in the kit, along with names for all of the boats and enough numbers to do any of them.
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