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Keel, stem and sternpost elements ready for cutting. The keel will be in two lengths scarfed together as will the stem post but the sternpost will of course be a single timber Bulkheads are cut and ready to go Dick .
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Steven, you may like this article on Yenikapi: http://woam2013.com/yenikapi-info.pdf
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Thanks Steven, its a fascinating topic, the dromon. The third volume of the MIT edition of Michael of Rhodes is probably the most useful for the shipmodeller That's why we keep coming back, we're addicted Dick
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A bespoke manufacturer of ship models seems to have produced an excellent dromon reproduction following John H Pryor 's reconstruction. It is most impressive. I have found a paperback version of his book which is affordable http://www.brill.com/age-dromon-0 Dick
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If you can locate plans by Ulrich Alertz, they may include his idea of a dromon. Certainly John H Pryor has written extensively and I note this publication which is way too expensive for me but a library might get a copy. http://www.oxbowbooks.com/oxbow/the-age-of-the-dromon.html Crackers' second illustration appears to be the same illustration of a dromon as is in the Conway' "Age of the Galley" p103 by John H Pryor but without the "double horned "stern. It is from John H Pryor's et al. The Age of the Dromon. Dick
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The dromon, now THERE'S a challenge ! I had a similar experience with a Billings POB "golden HInd" I had finished the hull but made the basic mistake of doing some research and realising that, above the main deck it was just plain wrong so I cast it into the outer darkness and swore never to do another kit. But later I cut it down to the main deck level and have kept the hull and have plans to resurrect it as the Elizabethan Ark Royal. The carrack bulkheads are nearly complete and I am tweaking the lines as I go. Dick
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Thanks, Crackers, I have done just that and await a reply. Dick I agree, I have delved into a few of these dissertations and they are a goldmine. Courageous decision, by the way, about your Licorne. Sometimes it is better to "screw your courage to the sticking place" and get on with things. Dick
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At least get "Vanguard of Empire". Are you thinking of building a carrack or other style of mediaeval ship?
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An excellent starting point is Roger Smith: "Vanguard of Empire" Oxford Press. Other reference for iconography is: Lillian Ray Martin : "The Art and Archeology of Venetian Ships and Boats" Texas A&M Books Articles by Mauro Bondioli in : "The Book of Michael of Rhodes vol 3" Long, McGee and Stahl eds. MIT Press Of Course The volume in Conways History of the Ship " Cogs Caravels and Galleons" is a very useful starting point as well. Dick
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The modification of the stempost is relatively minor and would make it resemble both Oliveira's plan and the Trombetta manuscript more closely.
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this is the present stempost and the modified version according to Oliveira , a Portuguese. Is this more like the original? Dick
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Thanks, Steven, the sternpost rake was calculated by contemporary geometric techniques as used by the shipwrights in the Arsenale. Incidentally it happens to tally with the Mataro model closely. Dick
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MDF board also has health risks due to formaldehyde glues and wood fibre. Good ventilation is required as well as face mask and eye protection if sanding or using power tools on it. A good shop vacuum is a wise investment. Here is a relevant link: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-health-risks-of-mdf.htm Dick
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Before I get too involved with rigging, I have to build the full hull . This is new to me as I have never done a POB model before. Nor have I designed one. I am making this up as I go along. I hope you guys will forgive any egregious errors and make suggestions as I go. Here goes, this is the central bulkhead support with the backbone of the ship
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the TAMU files are a wonderful resource and we must be grateful to them for making them available to lubbers like us Here are the lines of the carrack to date [][][]
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Thanks to Mooonbug and well done on your reworking of the AL Santa Maria. Good choice to have a round tuck stern. The rigging of my carrack fills me with trepidation, however. Dick
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Yep, I did consider it but decided against it. Please see previous posts for the reasons. Yes, Crackers, there is guesswork but it is also detective work with many clues and many suspects here are some preliminary lines, which will be cleaned up. Dick
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Thanks, Steven for the pics which will be of interest to many MSW readers. The Reixach carracks seem to be closest to the carrack I am reconstructing. It also shows a sailor ascending ratlines but they are not drawn in. The most realistic depictions of carracks by far are by Carpaccio. I am presently drawing up lines to build a 1:64 POB full hull model. Dick
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Louie, I have been fascinated by the english carracks in the Richard Beaumont drawings. These seem to be sketched from life and show much interesting detail. Some show ratlines and others Jacob's ladders. Thanks for the link. Druxey and Doreltomin. Another reason not to place the ship on a mirror was the fact that it was not symmetrical. the bowsprit (if that's what it was) is shifted to the starboard side of the forecastle (a feature seen in many pictures of the period). Dick
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Have fun with your build, Cookster. It is a beautiful ship. Dick
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I did consider a mirror and tried one but, because of the thickness of glass over the silvered layer, it looked like there was a huge gap down the middle of the ship and I gave up on the idea. Besides, there is a venerable tradition of half-hull models and I rather like the way they look. Thank you Louie for the article on Master W A +. This will be very useful. I think Landstrom in his excellent book uses the Mataro nao but lengthens in in the mid section to make it seaworthy. the wooldings on the masts in two of the pictures indicating masts made of several pieces of wood whereas the small nao by W A has a one piece mast. Also noteworthy is that, in the first picture, the yard has been lowered to the deck, presumably it was the way they did a harbour furl. The dragon
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Thanks, Doreltomin. It is unfortunate that the Mataro nao has been interfered with so much over the centuries but it is the best we have. It is a challenging project . Here are some views of the temporary framework used to support awnings on the stern and fore castles. Also the eccentric "bowsprit"
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Have removed the "deck beams" and exposed the underlying bituminised "frames". The planking between the wales left off. Looks more like the illustration Dick
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The fore and aft edges of the blocks are always perpendicular to the keel. Problem solved. Have to change the model now Dick
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