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woodrat got a reaction from mtaylor in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
I have never been happy with the figurehead which appeared cartoonish. So I have gone back the original potterry images and found this excellent image of the tragana ship
The figurehead I couldnt recognise until I suddenly realised that it was in fact a stylised crocodile head with projecting teeth.. I also have done some nose art using an image of a minoan octopus which was much copied by the mycenaeans
The octopus would be an appropriate animal for a ship of Poseidon
So the latest figurhead is much more threatening. The crocodile would be familiar to mycenaeans who regularly traded with Egypt.
Cheeers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from CiscoH in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The thick planking has been applied as far as the midline,
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
I have installed the waterways both sides.
Cheers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
This vessel did not have lodging knees but lodging planking, this would save money. Knees are made from grown compass timber ( this grain follows the shape of the knee) and for a humble merchant vessel would be expensive overkill. Hanging knees however were used and presumably grown.
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Thukydides in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
Thanks, Steven and Thukydides. The occy is tentacles forward in attack mode so as to intimidate the villagers as the ship roars in. The croc adds to the menace. The mycenaeans were generally not all that nice. They were,after all, pirates.
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from davyboy in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
I have never been happy with the figurehead which appeared cartoonish. So I have gone back the original potterry images and found this excellent image of the tragana ship
The figurehead I couldnt recognise until I suddenly realised that it was in fact a stylised crocodile head with projecting teeth.. I also have done some nose art using an image of a minoan octopus which was much copied by the mycenaeans
The octopus would be an appropriate animal for a ship of Poseidon
So the latest figurhead is much more threatening. The crocodile would be familiar to mycenaeans who regularly traded with Egypt.
Cheeers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Siggi52 in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
I have never been happy with the figurehead which appeared cartoonish. So I have gone back the original potterry images and found this excellent image of the tragana ship
The figurehead I couldnt recognise until I suddenly realised that it was in fact a stylised crocodile head with projecting teeth.. I also have done some nose art using an image of a minoan octopus which was much copied by the mycenaeans
The octopus would be an appropriate animal for a ship of Poseidon
So the latest figurhead is much more threatening. The crocodile would be familiar to mycenaeans who regularly traded with Egypt.
Cheeers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from CiscoH in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
I have never been happy with the figurehead which appeared cartoonish. So I have gone back the original potterry images and found this excellent image of the tragana ship
The figurehead I couldnt recognise until I suddenly realised that it was in fact a stylised crocodile head with projecting teeth.. I also have done some nose art using an image of a minoan octopus which was much copied by the mycenaeans
The octopus would be an appropriate animal for a ship of Poseidon
So the latest figurhead is much more threatening. The crocodile would be familiar to mycenaeans who regularly traded with Egypt.
Cheeers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Archi in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
I have never been happy with the figurehead which appeared cartoonish. So I have gone back the original potterry images and found this excellent image of the tragana ship
The figurehead I couldnt recognise until I suddenly realised that it was in fact a stylised crocodile head with projecting teeth.. I also have done some nose art using an image of a minoan octopus which was much copied by the mycenaeans
The octopus would be an appropriate animal for a ship of Poseidon
So the latest figurhead is much more threatening. The crocodile would be familiar to mycenaeans who regularly traded with Egypt.
Cheeers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Thukydides in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
Shown is the reconstructed (imagined) steering mechanism. At this stage of evolution only one steering oar would be present.
It was later in the Iron Age that steering oars would appear on both quarters. As it was a requirement that the steering oar have the capacity to be rapidly rotated into a horizontal position during beaching, there must have been a mechanism whereby the steering can be released rapidly from its upright and pulled into a horizontal position by an up haul. I have shown a possible mechanism whereby this could be done.
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
I have never been happy with the figurehead which appeared cartoonish. So I have gone back the original potterry images and found this excellent image of the tragana ship
The figurehead I couldnt recognise until I suddenly realised that it was in fact a stylised crocodile head with projecting teeth.. I also have done some nose art using an image of a minoan octopus which was much copied by the mycenaeans
The octopus would be an appropriate animal for a ship of Poseidon
So the latest figurhead is much more threatening. The crocodile would be familiar to mycenaeans who regularly traded with Egypt.
Cheeers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from chris watton in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
Shown is the reconstructed (imagined) steering mechanism. At this stage of evolution only one steering oar would be present.
It was later in the Iron Age that steering oars would appear on both quarters. As it was a requirement that the steering oar have the capacity to be rapidly rotated into a horizontal position during beaching, there must have been a mechanism whereby the steering can be released rapidly from its upright and pulled into a horizontal position by an up haul. I have shown a possible mechanism whereby this could be done.
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Thukydides in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
I have never been happy with the figurehead which appeared cartoonish. So I have gone back the original potterry images and found this excellent image of the tragana ship
The figurehead I couldnt recognise until I suddenly realised that it was in fact a stylised crocodile head with projecting teeth.. I also have done some nose art using an image of a minoan octopus which was much copied by the mycenaeans
The octopus would be an appropriate animal for a ship of Poseidon
So the latest figurhead is much more threatening. The crocodile would be familiar to mycenaeans who regularly traded with Egypt.
Cheeers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Ian_Grant in Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
I have never been happy with the figurehead which appeared cartoonish. So I have gone back the original potterry images and found this excellent image of the tragana ship
The figurehead I couldnt recognise until I suddenly realised that it was in fact a stylised crocodile head with projecting teeth.. I also have done some nose art using an image of a minoan octopus which was much copied by the mycenaeans
The octopus would be an appropriate animal for a ship of Poseidon
So the latest figurhead is much more threatening. The crocodile would be familiar to mycenaeans who regularly traded with Egypt.
Cheeers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Stavanger in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
Thanks, Mark.I believe the planking in a gun deck of a warship would be oak. As this was a merchantman, I would think elm or fir. The thickness of the central plankage was of the order of 90 - 100 mm and the outer planking 70 - 75 mm. Other members may be able to give much more detail on plankage. It is said that the old forests of europe never recovered from the stripping that occurred to make the war armadas of the 16th to 18th centuries.
Cheers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The thick planking has been applied as far as the midline,
Dick
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woodrat reacted to ChrisLBren in Le Gros Ventre by ChrisLBren - 1/36
Good morning Group,
After some spending some time in the doldrums, I have restarted Le Gros Ventre and spent the past month working on this assembly. I probably built each part a half dozen times...
Decisions, do I begin the installation of the frames or tackle the other really tough part of the build, the hawse extensions?
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woodrat got a reaction from KARAVOKIRIS in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The thick planking has been applied as far as the midline,
Dick
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woodrat reacted to BlockPlane in Bonhomme Richard by BlockPlane - Scale 1/48 - ANCRE
While a sizable amount of time has past since my last post. Work on the model has progressed at what I would consider a snails pace. As we can all relate, each step presents its own set of challenges. The stern section was something I was really looking forward to. Time will tell if I deciphered the plans correctly. I'm finding the process of cutting in the cannon port rather tedious. As a result, I only do it when the mood strikes. Enjoy the pictures.
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woodrat got a reaction from mtaylor in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
Thanks, Mark.I believe the planking in a gun deck of a warship would be oak. As this was a merchantman, I would think elm or fir. The thickness of the central plankage was of the order of 90 - 100 mm and the outer planking 70 - 75 mm. Other members may be able to give much more detail on plankage. It is said that the old forests of europe never recovered from the stripping that occurred to make the war armadas of the 16th to 18th centuries.
Cheers
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from mtaylor in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The thick planking has been applied as far as the midline,
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from scrubbyj427 in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The thick planking has been applied as far as the midline,
Dick
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woodrat got a reaction from Harvey Golden in Le Gros Ventre 1767 by woodrat - Scale 1:48 - POF - French exploration vessel
The thick planking has been applied as far as the midline,
Dick
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woodrat reacted to Richard Braithwaite in Trireme Olympias by Richard Braithwaite
The belaying arrangement for the running rigging seems to have been developed during the build and trials of Olympias as the location of pinrails in photographs and videos of the vessel differ from their positions in the build drawings. Drawing MSR 11 (General Arrangement of Standing and Running Rigging) shows two pairs of pin rails (P&S) at the aft end and forward end of the gangway. their height is given quite low to the deck. Photographs of the copleted ship show 4 pairs of pinrails in total placed on top of the handrail. Ive done my best to scale these from stills taken from online videos (again, I really do (/should have!) need to visit the ship in Athens at some point...). My interpretation below:
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