Vivian Galad

And here are some pics from the room, where I keep all my models:
 

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The beginning of the relation is available at this address:
 
 
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Regards, Pawel
 
 

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The beginning of the relation is available at this address:
 
 
http://5500.forumact...ndre-1-24#66516
 
 
 
Regards, Pawel
 
 

Continuation.
 
 

 

 

 

 

 
 
The beginning of the relation is available at this address:
 
 
http://5500.forumact...ndre-1-24#66516
 
 
 
Regards, Pawel
 

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The beginning of the relation is available at this address:
 
 
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Regards, Pawel

Mirek, thank you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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The beginning of the relation is available at this address:
 
 
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Regards, Pawel

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The beginning of the relation is available at this address:
 
 
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Regards, Paul

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The beginning of the relation is available at this address:
 
 
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Regards, Paul

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The beginning of the relation is available at this address:
 
 
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Regards, Paul

Before  the frames assembly is glued,  I could choose to stop the build and recycle the frames in a coniferous tree.

Here is a little more progress. I used some hard pink styro and some long pins to create a adjustable jig for the ever changing rib shapes.
Worked out very well, keeping the top of the Keelson rabbet as the common point.
Started to fair some and got a few copper bolts in.
Cheers
 

Moving forward with a little progress.
I assembled 4 ribs free form and found there was too many parts to get consistent shape. 2 were O.K. but the other 2 needed remaking.
I made a form to build them on as these first 20 or so are mostly the same....
Ribs A through M are formed but not 100% complete as they still need bolting and the frame work for the ports and sweeps.
Undecided at this time to cut them now or wait and cut them later.
Thanks to all who showed up for the meeting.

Hi all, welcome to my build.
This will mostly be a pictorial rendition of the Washington. Every body likes pictures.
I'm not going to tell this crowd how to build ships.
There are other excellent build logs of this ship in progress and I'm pretty sure this will not be better than those but I will do my best.
This is my first scratch build so I'm riding the learning curve.
Feel free to over suggestions,criticisms ect.. or ask questions.
The main structure of the vessel is going to be Cherry. I'll use Holly for the deck planking, Swiss Pear for the hull planking and some Walnut for the Wales and
deck bits. This should give some nice color contrast.
I did the keel in three sections as "Yamsterman" suggested did make the rabbit much easier to work.
So without any farther Adieu here are some pics.
 

First coat of thinned down polyurethane satin varnish on the hull. Not sure about second coat in case it becomes gloss. Any advice welcome. Took the easy option and used the bronze Occre fittings for the gun ports instead of the making wooden ones.

 

And time for an update so you don´t think I´ve vanished again.
 
First of all, sorry for the low quality pics - I´ll have a new cam next month and be posting better ones.
 
As I said, I got a plan on changing the stern and, instead of making a new one (which would be a lot better), cut pieces from plywood and got rid from that steep curve - As it is now, well, not good looking I would say, but, I´ll cover it with a sheet cut and designed as a real stern should look - that said, my keel will be from the same wood, so, I´ll be changing the kit´s wood destined for it.
 

 
I´ve been planking decks. After I finished them I realized I could´ve done it other way, close to what it should be - following beams and such, but, then again the ship have no beams and I would have to create them - and I´ll try at least to reproduce something like them. Of course pictures won´t show, but pin holes were made - caulking coming soon.
 

So, I´ll show some cargo hold - don´t know if beams would be visible but decided to try some over the cargo hold - Not quite sure how I´ll make them - but I´m into reading so many things about and seeing so many pictures that I´ll figure it out soon enough. Still don´t know if I should plank the hull inside at the visible parts, so, I´m reproducing some more frames.
 

 



I´m using plywood, but will cover if needed.
 
It´s a small update, hope to be showing more soon.

Thank you, Piet! Just trying to do my best - and learning, always learning.

Hello Vivian, ah, I see you are in "kit bashing." Brave woman you are, tackling that but it looks like you are well on the way to get it to what you have in mind, nice work.
 
Cheers,

And time for an update so you don´t think I´ve vanished again.
 
First of all, sorry for the low quality pics - I´ll have a new cam next month and be posting better ones.
 
As I said, I got a plan on changing the stern and, instead of making a new one (which would be a lot better), cut pieces from plywood and got rid from that steep curve - As it is now, well, not good looking I would say, but, I´ll cover it with a sheet cut and designed as a real stern should look - that said, my keel will be from the same wood, so, I´ll be changing the kit´s wood destined for it.
 

 
I´ve been planking decks. After I finished them I realized I could´ve done it other way, close to what it should be - following beams and such, but, then again the ship have no beams and I would have to create them - and I´ll try at least to reproduce something like them. Of course pictures won´t show, but pin holes were made - caulking coming soon.
 

So, I´ll show some cargo hold - don´t know if beams would be visible but decided to try some over the cargo hold - Not quite sure how I´ll make them - but I´m into reading so many things about and seeing so many pictures that I´ll figure it out soon enough. Still don´t know if I should plank the hull inside at the visible parts, so, I´m reproducing some more frames.
 

 



I´m using plywood, but will cover if needed.
 
It´s a small update, hope to be showing more soon.

Hey, Piet. People here is always supportive - really friendly, truth be told. U may be the airplane guy, but I love your work on the latest submarines nearing this shores. Thanks for visiting, be welcome!

And time for an update so you don´t think I´ve vanished again.
 
First of all, sorry for the low quality pics - I´ll have a new cam next month and be posting better ones.
 
As I said, I got a plan on changing the stern and, instead of making a new one (which would be a lot better), cut pieces from plywood and got rid from that steep curve - As it is now, well, not good looking I would say, but, I´ll cover it with a sheet cut and designed as a real stern should look - that said, my keel will be from the same wood, so, I´ll be changing the kit´s wood destined for it.
 

 
I´ve been planking decks. After I finished them I realized I could´ve done it other way, close to what it should be - following beams and such, but, then again the ship have no beams and I would have to create them - and I´ll try at least to reproduce something like them. Of course pictures won´t show, but pin holes were made - caulking coming soon.
 

So, I´ll show some cargo hold - don´t know if beams would be visible but decided to try some over the cargo hold - Not quite sure how I´ll make them - but I´m into reading so many things about and seeing so many pictures that I´ll figure it out soon enough. Still don´t know if I should plank the hull inside at the visible parts, so, I´m reproducing some more frames.
 

 



I´m using plywood, but will cover if needed.
 
It´s a small update, hope to be showing more soon.

Wow! Those plans are something else! Be here too, can´t wait to see her coming alive!

Impatience, mostly. After all the preamble and preparation, I really wanted to see what she'd look like. If I'd done it in tandem it would have taken twice as long to find out. As she was done on a plug there was no danger of an imbalance of forces from the planks on one side causing her to warp before the others were put on.
 
Of course, I could have just taken the photos of one side and pretended I'd done both . . .
 
Steven
 
 

Thanks everybody for the likes. Much appreciated. Thanks for the compliments, Gerhard and Martin. I like the shape too. It's nice to be making such an elegant ship.
 
Martin, you live in Gisborne! We're practically neighbours!
 
Latest - I've now completed the second last plank on the port side. As mentioned before I had to miss the top one because of the screws in the way. I'll come back to it later. I've put in the drop planks now, and it's looking pretty good. A bit of filling needed, unfortunately, but not too much (it looks a lot worse in the photos than in real life).
 




I've temporarily packed out the planking at the tail so it lines up as well as possible with the curved gunwale. I'm hoping I don't have to do too much adjustment at this spot.  I might have to add another layer of planking to get a smooth line - I won't know till I put in the top plank.

 
I've not yet used a third of the plank sheeting Woodrat sent me, which is a relief. I was wasting a few at the beginning and I was worried I'd run out before I finished. But it looks like it should be ok.
 
I've started planking the starboard side. I felt I had to at least make a start on that, otherwise I'd be tempted to rest on my laurels.
 

And I've worked up a design for the stand for the ship to rest on. This is half of it - it's mirrored at the right hand side (where you can see the slot for the keel). There will be two of these transverse to the hull, about 1/3 of the way in from each  end, and sitting on a base running along the length of the ship. I'll be carving it in 3 dimensions in pear wood. The design itself is based on one found on an 11th century openwork Byzantine hanging lamp, so it's appropriate to the time and culture.
 

 
 

Thanks everybody for all the 'likes'
 
More planking - at last she starts to take shape as a ship rather than just a framework!
 
Not totally satisfied with my planking - I realise I still have a lot to learn about it, but the only way to do so is to practice practice practice - and I think for a first time it's not too bad. The gaps I've left between planks are pretty small and can be filled with wood dust and glue. But those scarph joints are a real trial!
 
Closing up the gap between the first and second wale (counting from the keel). Two strakes between the wales - one in place, the other has the forwardmost plank glued in, and the other two planks shaped but not yet in place.
 

As I mentioned before, I'll need to sand the hull smooth - it's supposed to be carvel built, not clinker! (the overlaps between planks are a result of my inexperience and my use of push pins to hold the planks in place). I'm learning as I go. You can see places where I've tried a little preliminary sanding and I think it will end up ok.
 
And here she is with the gap closed up. Note the scarph joints.
 

 


The dark pencilled-in semi-circles are where the oarports will be. I have to be very careful about placement; I've only got half the frames in place at the moment - the rest will follow after I've finished the planking - and the width of the oarport is the same as the gap between frames - there's only just enough room to fit the oarports in.
 
I had hoped not to have to use stealers or drop planks, but with the shape of the rear 'tail" and the position of the wales I didn't have much choice and had to add drop planks. Note, the Viking longships didn't need them - they had planks following the curve of the ship's ends - but they didn't have wales to complicate the issue. It is known that dromons did have wales to strengthen them, and early during the design process I had to work out their position and shape, and now I'm living with the consequences. I've had to make the best of it, but I think it still doesn't look half bad.
 
Two designs for the drop planks at the "tail", one with four main planks between the wales, one with three. As it turned out I'm not following either exactly - I'm doing a variation on the second one.
 


 
Steven