rtropp Posted July 15, 2015 #1 Posted July 15, 2015 I want to get a lightweight rotary tool to use when doing fine work. So far I have narrowed the choices down to the Proxxon EF at .506 lbs, and the Dremel 7700 at @ 12 oz. I have the Dremel flex shaft attachment but it feels a little cumbersome when trying to move around the build. I already have the transformer for the Proxxon so that is not a problem. I guess I am wavering between battery power and the lighter weight of the Proxxon. What do you all think? Richard Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren
Mahuna Posted July 15, 2015 #2 Posted July 15, 2015 Gesswein and Foredom both make rotary tools that are at a higher level in terms of power, precision, and speed. If your budget allows, I would recommend the tool shown in the attached link. Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member
Jack12477 Posted July 15, 2015 #3 Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) I have 2 Dremels and a WeCheer micro engraver which accepts all of the Dremel brand collets so it can take any size drill bit that Dremel can. The WeCheer is excellent for very fine small work. I use them interchangeably. See WeCheer photo below Edited July 15, 2015 by Jack12477 mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
Mike Y Posted July 15, 2015 #4 Posted July 15, 2015 Actually, check out new cordless dremel - 8050 micro: http://www.dremel.com/en-us/Tools/Pages/ToolDetail.aspx?pid=8050#.VaaAyXBXeK0 It have a better accumulator (lipo), very well balanced and quiet. I use it for a few months very actively. Still have a regular dremel with the cord on my table, but never used it since I got 8050 Bobstrake, trippwj, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
jhearl Posted July 16, 2015 #5 Posted July 16, 2015 I have any number of Dremel tools including the one pictured immediately above. They each have their benefits. There are two things that bother me about the 8050 - the speed always resets to the middle value when you turn it off, (which is too fast for my needs) and while the lights seem like they would be useful, if you have the drill pointing towards you, they make it hard to see what you're doing because they shine in your eyes. I had to cover mine with tape. I used to have one called the MiniMite, which was my go-to drill until the batteries died. I replaced it with a model 7000, which uses four AA batteries. I have a couple of sets of Eneloop batteries that I use with it. Eneloops are great because they hold a charge for a long time when they aren't being used. The 7000 is smaller than the 8050. It has just two speeds, which are normally all I need, and no annoying lights. Cheers - John Canute and Bobstrake 2 Quote http://modelboatyard.com Recently Completed: Chesapeake Bay Buyboat - F.D. Crockett
Mike Y Posted July 16, 2015 #6 Posted July 16, 2015 John, light is turned off by going to lowest speed and clicking minus button again But yes, speed and light settings are not saved when you turn it off Bobstrake, trippwj and Canute 3 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
rtropp Posted July 16, 2015 Author #7 Posted July 16, 2015 Hi, Frank, I have used the Foredom and like it for some uses but I am trying to get away from the somewhat stiff shaft attachment. Mike, the 8050 seems a little big for my purpose. Do you know the weight of the tool itself? Jack, Do you know the weight of the WeCheer? I suppose what I would really like is the pencil like form factor of the Proxxon and cordless like the Dremels. Given the need for a battery, I thought that would not happen but I found out the dremel 7700 is only 12 oz so the difference between it the 8 oz proxxon does not seem too much? Richard Canute 1 Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren
Mahuna Posted July 16, 2015 #8 Posted July 16, 2015 Hi Richard The Foredom I was thinking of is the Micromoter - you can do very precise work, and the variable speed foot pedal gives great control. Canute 1 Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member
Mike Y Posted July 16, 2015 #9 Posted July 16, 2015 Just measured Dremel 8050 - its weight is 250gr. However, it is also a question of balance - all battery tools have the heaviest part in the bottom (batteries), while this one have a lipo accumulator which is located somewhere in the middle. I am using it a lot to drill tiny holes freehand, and that balance is quite important when you do it. Canute 1 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
Jack12477 Posted July 20, 2015 #10 Posted July 20, 2015 Jack, Do you know the weight of the WeCheer? Richard Richard, sorry for delayed response - been away. The WeCheer is 2.88 oz or 82 g. That's just the unit, it has a plugin transformer which attaches via a small cord to the unit. I find it very comfortable to use and since it takes all the Dremel colletts I can use all the Dremel bits and still use small drills. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
rtropp Posted July 22, 2015 Author #11 Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) Mahuna, I have the proxxon transformer and not sure I want to add another. Jack, The WeCheer site shows a rechargeable unit, the 243. On amazon it is show as being used for polishing nails (at salons) but seems to have similar specs to the 248. WeCheer bills it as a power tool for carving, drilling, etc. Do you think it would work for modeling? I like the idea of cordless and 30 - 60 minute run time is ok for me. Richard Edited July 22, 2015 by rtropp Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren
Jack12477 Posted July 22, 2015 #12 Posted July 22, 2015 Richard, I have the WE248 model (3,000-23,000 RPM). I've used it to sand as well as drill (#76 bit) and it works fine for modeling. Yes they do list it as a woodcarving tool but it work great on my wood ship models. It's light weight and shape make it great for small jobs. The thing that sold me was the fact it accepts all of the Dremel colletts so I can use all my Dremel bits as well as various sized drill bits. I got in a WoodCraft store in Delaware for about $85. Can't speak to the portable version, 243. Have not seen that model. Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
PeterN67 Posted August 20, 2015 #13 Posted August 20, 2015 The Proxxon... By a long way, old dremel said may have been the best before, but the modern stuff is cheap and nasty, Proxxon, high quality, a little more expensive , but well worth the investment I want to get a lightweight rotary tool to use when doing fine work. So far I have narrowed the choices down to the Proxxon EF at .506 lbs, and the Dremel 7700 at @ 12 oz. I have the Dremel flex shaft attachment but it feels a little cumbersome when trying to move around the build. I already have the transformer for the Proxxon so that is not a problem. I guess I am wavering between battery power and the lighter weight of the Proxxon. What do you all think? Richard Quote
Modeler12 Posted August 29, 2015 #14 Posted August 29, 2015 I want to get a lightweight rotary tool to use when doing fine work. So far I have narrowed the choices down to the Proxxon EF at .506 lbs, and the Dremel 7700 at @ 12 oz. I have the Dremel flex shaft attachment but it feels a little cumbersome when trying to move around the build. I already have the transformer for the Proxxon so that is not a problem. I guess I am wavering between battery power and the lighter weight of the Proxxon. What do you all think? Richard They are so cheap, buy both and find out what is the best for your needs and likes. Canute 1 Quote Jay Current build Cross Section USS Constitution http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10120-cross-section-forward-area-of-the-uss-constitution/ Finished USS Constitution: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/103-uss-constitution-by-modeler12/ 'A picture is worth a . . . . .' More is better . . . .
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