vossy Posted December 13, 2015 #1 Posted December 13, 2015 surprised it took so long! http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-13/colombia-spain-in-row-over-3billion-loot-from-galleon-san-jose/7024530 chris Canute and CaptainSteve 2 Quote
mtaylor Posted December 13, 2015 #2 Posted December 13, 2015 There's like 3 topics on this.... Canute 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
uss frolick Posted December 13, 2015 #3 Posted December 13, 2015 I hope they salvage some of the artifacts, as well as the gold. To me, objects of everyday, early 18th-century naval life, are the real treasure. Harvey, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote
jbshan Posted December 13, 2015 #4 Posted December 13, 2015 As I said in another topic, a state-owned ship remains the property of that state, a war grave as it were. This case would be as if HMS Victory sank off San Francisco harbor carrying millions to pay the troops and we claimed it. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/
uss frolick Posted December 13, 2015 #5 Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Warships are considered military graves, as was the Spanish frigate that blew up off the Azores, and they may not be salvaged without permission. Were treasure galleons warships, or were they more like the English armed East India Company merchant ships? Edited December 13, 2015 by uss frolick mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote
jbshan Posted December 13, 2015 #6 Posted December 13, 2015 There were two components to a Flota. There was a merchant component and an escort component. The escort might consist of several ships, the top ranked officer, the Captain General, sailing in the Capitana, the second-ranked officer, the Admiral, sailing in the Almiranta. These were warships, provided by the Crown, and would be charged with transporting the bulk of the gold and silver. This particular ship was part of the Tierra Firme or Galeones fleet. They entered the Carribean between Trinidad and Tobago, sailing along the coast of South America to Cartegena. The merchant ships would be trading along the way. The warships would go from Cartegena to Porto Bello to pick up silver mined in Peru, then back to Cartegena to wait for the merchantmen to finish up, then on to Havana to meet up with the other fleet, the New Mexico Flota, which had called at ports along the northern part of the Caribbean and Mexico at Vera Cruz. Both fleets would then cross the Atlantic together. The escort may have resembled East India Company ships, but were warships. druxey, Seventynet, uss frolick and 2 others 5 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/
pompey2 Posted December 17, 2015 #7 Posted December 17, 2015 It's already got three claimant's. Maybe we should chip in as the Brits put it where it is. And Peru and Bolivia as it was their gold originally. And then the Caribbean islands are not that far away so.... Any chance of reward brings out the sharks as it were. mtaylor, davyboy and Canute 3 Quote Current build USF Confederacy Previous log - HMS Victory
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