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Posted

hello everyone 

i want to know if its common to paint model ship (wood)  with airbrush 

because i not like the effect of the normal brush 

 

there is someone that paint with airbrush?

 

i dont want to spend to mach money for something that it will be useless for me

 

 

best regards

Michael.

"smooth seas do not make good sailors..."

:pirate41:

MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli)

SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI 

CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/

Posted

i dont see why you couldnt use one, and airbrush is just for application of paint and other media. i also build many other models so i already had an airbrush on hand, this is what i use http://www.chicagoairbrushsupply.com/ba155aiandki.html  plus you need a compressor to run it. although as i see many model ships arent painted very much, and often in hard to reach or complex situations that airbrushes arent too good for unless youre using a very fine detail brush with a hand as steady as a brain surgeon. just my 2cents worth, if your unhappy with traditional brushes try using better quality ones or using sponge brushes.

Posted

I used an airbrush on my Connie. It worked very well. The key was to use lighter coats. I loved how I could get a smooth finish. Not to say I that I didn't also use paint brushes a lot on the details. That can't be avoided, but the air brush will give you a nice smooth finish over larger areas.

 

One other use for an airbrush is applying a clear coat to the ship once the hull and furniture are done. Since different paints have a slightly different sheen, I apply a matte finish to the ship. This enhances the details seen on the ship and make it look better since all parts have the same matte finish.

Bill

Chantilly, VA

 

Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon!

 

Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle

 

Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli

Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli

 

Posted

You can also try using a spray can if you are not going to be painting on a regular basis.

 

I know Tamiya have a range of colors available http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/list/spray.htm

 

I use a variety of methods, including airbrush, hand brush and spray can.

Samuel Pepys notes in his diary on 19 July 1667: "the Dutch fleets being in so many places, that Sir W. Batten at table cried, By God,says he, I think the Devil shits Dutchmen."

 

Posted

You can also try using a spray can if you are not going to be painting on a regular basis.

 

I know Tamiya have a range of colors available http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/list/spray.htm

 

I use a variety of methods, including airbrush, hand brush and spray can.

 

That is true. My problem (and this is just me) is I tend to overspray with canned spray - the spray seems denser. So I like the airbrush because I can really have a very fine dilute mist. It gives me more control that I get with a spray can. 

Bill

Chantilly, VA

 

Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon!

 

Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle

 

Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli

Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli

 

Posted

thank you all!!!

 

someone know something about the infinity ?

http://www.amazon.com/Harder-Steenbeck-Infinity-126544-SprayGunner/dp/B010XWRDSQ

"smooth seas do not make good sailors..."

:pirate41:

MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli)

SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI 

CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/

Posted

I use my airbrush for so many things. I spray acrylic floor finish for my clear coat. You can look at my King of the Mississippi. Plus any other colors that I need. A little off topic, the acrylic floor finish will give you a great clear coat, it cleans up with water and is self leveling. I have used it as a under coat, or base coat for a top color. It will fill in gaps and pours with enough coats and when you spray on the color coat it finishes as smooth as glass. 

As for the airbrush, it all depends on how many models you are going to make in your life. 

You will need a fair size compressor, I have a pancake type. I did buy one of those very little ones that are for airbrushs, but I found it was always playing catch up and not giving me enough pressure.

The airbrush I would say that will give you the most bang for your money would be    http://www.amazon.com/Paasche-TG-3F-Double-Gravity-Airbrush/dp/B002N0QA9A/ref=sr_1_3?s=arts-crafts&ie=UTF8&qid=1454448860&sr=1-3&keywords=paasche+airbrush

It will do 

  • Achieve patterns from a hair line to 1-1/4-inch

That's what you want, there will be times when you want a hair line, and if you are painting the hull you will want 1- 1/4 inch

Clean up is also easy, you want a brush that is easy to clean

Joe

Posted

Michael, in addition to the advice given above I would suggest you go for a single action airbrush. I have both a single and double action brush and have been using both for a couple of years. The single action is usually cheaper to buy than the double action. It is easier to use and clean. It does a great job when painting small and large areas. I assume you will be using acrylic paints as they are much easier to clean up and dry a lot quicker. I use Admiralty paints exclusively. They give good coverage, are authentic colours and can be thinned with water for use in an airbrush. My recent build, HMB Supply (in my gallery) was almost completely painted using a single action airbrush and Admiralty Paints.

 

Cheers

Steve

Hornet

 

Current Build: - HMS Adder - Vanguard Models. 

 

  1. Completed Ship Builds: 

                                      OcCre - Shackleton’s Endurance (in gallery)

                                     Caldercraft - HM Bark Endeavour (in gallery)

                                    Caldercraft  - HMAV Bounty (in Gallery)

                                     Caldercraft - HM Brig Supply (In Gallery)

                                     Aeropiccola - Golden Hind

                                                        - Constitution

                                     Clipper Seawitch (Scientific)

                                     Corel - Victory

                                     Modeller's Shipyard - A Schooner of Port Jackson - In Gallery

                                                                      - Brig `Perseverance' - In Gallery

                                                                      - Cutter `Mermaid'- In Gallery

                                                                      - Sirius Longboat (bashed) - In Gallery

                                                                      - Sloop Norfolk - In Gallery

                                      Completed Cannon:   - French 18th Century Naval Cannon

                                                                      - Napoleonic 12 pound field piece

                                                                      - English 18th Century Carronade

                                       Non Ship Builds - Sopwith Camel - Artesania Latina

                                                                   - Fokker DR1 - Artesania Latina

                                               

Posted

Michael,

The Infinity looks like a Ferrari!

 

I have used a paasche H series single acting for 20+ years. Works great, is a rock solid performer at about 1/5 the price of the infinity.

 

Good luck,

Jerry

 

====================================

Currently building: Model Expo AMERICA, A/L KING OF THE MISSISSIPPI

 

Completed: Mamoli Victory cross-section, Revell LSM (Plastic, in memory of Dad), A/L SANSON tug, MS Longboat (awesome model Chuck!), Dumas 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Racing runabout, A/L SWIFT, MS ELSIE, Constructo ELIDIR (now LOUISE), Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack, Amati 1:80 Yacht ENDEAVOUR, Mamoli CONSTITUTION cross section, Revell VIIc U-boat (1:72 plastic), lotsa other plastic ships 

 

Next up: who knows - there are too many to choose from!

Posted

thank you all!!!

 

someone know something about the infinity ?

http://www.amazon.com/Harder-Steenbeck-Infinity-126544-SprayGunner/dp/B010XWRDSQ

save your money on the harder-steenbeck, those are marketed to professionals,  get a paasche or badger, great brushes for a great price. then use the money you save to get a nice compressor. i will direct you to this site: https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/   it helped me with the research and knowledge to get a good airbrush. good luck and feel free to ask any questions, ive been building plastic models for nearly 15 years

Posted (edited)

Michael, I agree with Jerry.  For many years I have used a Paasche H and got good results.  It is one of the workhorses out there and easy to use.  Unless you are going to be a pro do not bother with the Infinity and use the money you saved for a decent compressor.  Badger, Paasche, and Iwata are all made well and will work for you.  Here is a link that can give you some advice on what you need .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsW-vN0_lHw  

David B

Edited by dgbot
Posted

I agree with the above posts. I have a badger Model 200 single action brush. It is a little beauty.

Hornet

 

Current Build: - HMS Adder - Vanguard Models. 

 

  1. Completed Ship Builds: 

                                      OcCre - Shackleton’s Endurance (in gallery)

                                     Caldercraft - HM Bark Endeavour (in gallery)

                                    Caldercraft  - HMAV Bounty (in Gallery)

                                     Caldercraft - HM Brig Supply (In Gallery)

                                     Aeropiccola - Golden Hind

                                                        - Constitution

                                     Clipper Seawitch (Scientific)

                                     Corel - Victory

                                     Modeller's Shipyard - A Schooner of Port Jackson - In Gallery

                                                                      - Brig `Perseverance' - In Gallery

                                                                      - Cutter `Mermaid'- In Gallery

                                                                      - Sirius Longboat (bashed) - In Gallery

                                                                      - Sloop Norfolk - In Gallery

                                      Completed Cannon:   - French 18th Century Naval Cannon

                                                                      - Napoleonic 12 pound field piece

                                                                      - English 18th Century Carronade

                                       Non Ship Builds - Sopwith Camel - Artesania Latina

                                                                   - Fokker DR1 - Artesania Latina

                                               

Posted

thank you all.

the point with the infinity is that its have a stopper for not to push the batten moreand less

and its will give you the same  mount of color all the way ...

is it necessary? because i dont want to make a damage on painting... 

 

and what make the different between single action to double action  ?

 

regards

Michael.

"smooth seas do not make good sailors..."

:pirate41:

MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli)

SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI 

CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/

Posted

thank you all.

the point with the infinity is that its have a stopper for not to push the batten moreand less

and its will give you the same  mount of color all the way ...

is it necessary? because i dont want to make a damage on painting... 

 

and what make the different between single action to double action  ?

 

regards

Michael.

single action means the button does a single job, meaning the paint flow is set by a screw and the button just runs the air. double action means the button controls paint mixture and air flow. single action is great for beginners, and consistency. double actions are better for experienced people and those who need to change line widths and paint flow on the fly. anyone who uses airbrushes a lot tend to have more than one, i have a single and a double action. the badger 200 old style is a single action, wereas the badger 155 anthem is a double action.

Posted

I use an air brush........wouldn't do without it.   I have a very low cost spray outfit which is sold by Testor's.......does just as good a job,  as a high priced brand.   it's a kit called the  'Amazing Air'  airbrush kit.  it run with a can of compressed air,  but I adapted it to my 25 gal compressor.  I also have a spraycraft gravity feed,  and an Aztek 320,  which I have all the accessories and two of each tips {never used}  to know more about the Testor's airbrush kit:

 

http://www.testors.com/category/136949/Airbrushes

 

I thought I had another link........but I guess I deleted it.  here is an old friend of mine.....he's tried many airbrushes and may give you more info on them.

 

https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/home

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted (edited)

thank you!

the point is that im leaving in israel and im not like to order expencive thing over the internet

we have a good website that selling airbrush

Which one to take?

 

and he has :

Harder & Steenback

 

H&S Ultra

125503- 80usd

Ultra two in one

125533- 109usd

Evolution CRplus 0.15

126204-156usd

Infinity two in one

126543-287usd

 

which one to take?

Edited by michael101

"smooth seas do not make good sailors..."

:pirate41:

MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli)

SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI 

CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/

Posted (edited)

Michael, if Amazon does business in Israel try them I think you will find an airbrush for less.  My advice would be to go with a Paasche H or  Badger Anthem.  I have been a happy user with the Paasche.  And I have heard many good things about the Anthem and they are both more  than adequate for our hobby.

David B

Edited by dgbot
Posted

I use an air brush........wouldn't do without it.   I have a very low cost spray outfit which is sold by Testor's.......does just as good a job,  as a high priced brand.   it's a kit called the  'Amazing Air'  airbrush kit.  it run with a can of compressed air,  but I adapted it to my 25 gal compressor.  I also have a spraycraft gravity feed,  and an Aztek 320,  which I have all the accessories and two of each tips {never used}  to know more about the Testor's airbrush kit:

 

http://www.testors.com/category/136949/Airbrushes

 

I thought I had another link........but I guess I deleted it.  here is an old friend of mine.....he's tried many airbrushes and may give you more info on them.

 

https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/home

 

dons an old friend of yours? thats awesome, i use his site all the time. my first airbrush was an aztek, it needs some TLC but im sure would still work great.

thank you!

the point is that im leaving in israel and im not like to order expencive thing over the internet

we have a good website that selling airbrush

Which one to take?

 

and he has :

Harder & Steenback

 

H&S Ultra

125503- 80usd

Ultra two in one

125533- 109usd

Evolution CRplus 0.15

126204-156usd

Infinity two in one

126543-287usd

 

which one to take?

 

 

 

if your set on that brand, id get the ultra or evolution. they are the base line models and are more than adequate for our job. honestly id go with the ultra, its half the price and will do the same job. you can always upgrade later.

Posted (edited)

That is true. My problem (and this is just me) is I tend to overspray with canned spray - the spray seems denser. So I like the airbrush because I can really have a very fine dilute mist. It gives me more control that I get with a spray can. 

 

Bill,

If you sit the can in a saucepan of warm (IMPORTANT..warm not boiling) water for five minutes the internal temperature and pressure is increased and the spray is a lot finer.

 

Practice on some scrap first but you will notice quite a difference. The paint dries much faster too with the elevated temperature the solvent evaporates quicker.  

I rarely use an airbrush now. A spray can works fine for me. 

 

Dan.

Edited by overdale
Posted

thank you all!!!

 

now i need advice for compressor :)

i will be more than happy if you will note which one you use

best regards

Michael. 

"smooth seas do not make good sailors..."

:pirate41:

MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli)

SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI 

CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/

Posted

i called to the store

and i told hem what i need it for 

so he told me that i not need something expensive 

and he talk about that model :

http://www.sparmaxair.com/product_detail.php?id=1&r=55

how is it?

 

for the airbrush i will go on the ultra 

H&S Ultra two in one 125533

with:

nozzle set 0.2 mm and 0.4 mm
2 ml and 5 ml plug-in cups
 
best regards 
Michael.

"smooth seas do not make good sailors..."

:pirate41:

MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli)

SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI 

CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/

Posted

Bill,

If you sit the can in a saucepan of warm (IMPORTANT..warm not boiling) water for five minutes the internal temperature and pressure is increased and the spray is a lot finer.

 

Practice on some scrap first but you will notice quite a difference. The paint dries much faster too with the elevated temperature the solvent evaporates quicker.  

I rarely use an airbrush now. A spray can works fine for me. 

 

Dan.

I will definitely try that. Thanks!

Bill

Chantilly, VA

 

Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon!

 

Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle

 

Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli

Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli

 

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