hof00 Posted January 23, 2017 Share #31 Posted January 23, 2017 Doug, It's a Tease!! Seriously, I'm looking forward to the results also. Cheers....HOF. Steve 12345 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #32 Posted January 28, 2017 still haven't managed to get good pictures in the daylight but here is some pics of the wheelhouse. I added some extra detail like the dashboard and ships wheel I also decided to plank the exterior different using opposing woods to create a contrast between the two woods I may be wrong but searching through the other logs have not seen this done yet and thinks it makes for a lovely finish hof00, petervisser and GrantGoodale 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #33 Posted January 28, 2017 thanks brian it does look like that from the photos regarding the engine bay im thinking I may not build the engine as im gonna have the ship in a case when completed and its not like I would remove it from case just to show engine I am really enjoying this build and with the amount of parts I will have left over due to scratch building all the hardwood parts I might scratch build a whole new ship the painted version and display both together there is a mare in the gallery from another member that painted one side and stained the other which I thought looked really cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronguy Posted January 28, 2017 Share #34 Posted January 28, 2017 Steve, I really like the cabin (and the whole boat!). Was the wood planking on the cabin part of the kit or did you swap it in. I like the grain in it. I can learn a lot from your builds about the use of woods and finishes. Quote Doug Current Builds: Bluenose II - AL / Krabbenkutter / Prince de Neufchatel / Essex Cross-section / Syren / Barque Stefano / Winchelsea / Half Hull / Maria HF31 - Dusek / Bandirma - Turkmodel On the Shelf: Santisima Trinidad and Cross Section / HMS Cutter Alert / Tender AVOS / Confederacy Suspended Build: Bluenose II - Billing Boats Nr 600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #35 Posted January 28, 2017 Hi Doug the kit only provided plywood for the cabin I added all the strips as for the finish its something ive used a lot on woodworking builds and wanted to try on a ship the mare nostrum seemed very fitting for the experiment. Its a bog standard trade clear laquer bought from a car autoparts store I can buy a 500ml spray can of the stuff for £2.20 its self levelling and has gap filling propertys also I can sand back to change or repair a piece and simply spray over again each new coat adheres to the previous its sprayed straight onto the bare wood with as many coats as required light sanding between. Also allow I haven't tried I suppose you could polish it with car wax Heronguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted January 28, 2017 Share #36 Posted January 28, 2017 Very nice!! The Wheel House looks great. If you're going to make another "Painted" version, you could do a Diorama with the Boat on a Slipway for Maintenance and use the Engine as if it was being worked on? (Just an idea....) Cheers....HOF. Steve 12345 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #37 Posted January 28, 2017 I really like the diorama idea harry ive seen couple of them in build logs and the engine idea sounds fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share #38 Posted January 29, 2017 Regarding scratch building a painted version I have looked up al fittings on Cornwall model boats and al own website the box of fittings comes with many parts I could provide myself like the copper wire etc. But can't find where to purchase the winch or horn and lights etc any advice on where to find a fittings kit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted January 29, 2017 Share #39 Posted January 29, 2017 Hi Chap, Have you had a look at the "Billings" catalogue? If you have a look at the Artesania Latina.net catalogue, there are just heaps of bits and pieces. (You just need the Part # then get Cornwall Models to order the bits in for you, Unsure if you can purchase direct from A/L) Cheers....HOF. Steve 12345 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share #40 Posted January 29, 2017 Thank you harry never thought about the concept of Cornwall model boats not showing it online but there ability to source it is better than mine will give them a call Monday morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share #41 Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Figure I have aprox ten hrs work invested into that wheel house if I preseted that to an employer or customer after a days work figure they would tell me not to show up tomorrow. Thing is I could have built the real thing in that time Edited January 29, 2017 by Steve 12345 hof00 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronguy Posted January 29, 2017 Share #42 Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) If your in my neck of the woods some day you can build me a full scale cabin! I'd like that - a bit bigger and I'd have a place for my workshop! Edited January 29, 2017 by Heronguy hof00 and Steve 12345 2 Quote Doug Current Builds: Bluenose II - AL / Krabbenkutter / Prince de Neufchatel / Essex Cross-section / Syren / Barque Stefano / Winchelsea / Half Hull / Maria HF31 - Dusek / Bandirma - Turkmodel On the Shelf: Santisima Trinidad and Cross Section / HMS Cutter Alert / Tender AVOS / Confederacy Suspended Build: Bluenose II - Billing Boats Nr 600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share #43 Posted January 29, 2017 As I have mentioned in some of my other posts before .working with wood and scale modelling are worlds apart even with my experience of 18+ Years carpentry I find scale building challenging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share #44 Posted January 29, 2017 One example would be say you wanted to drill an 8mm hole into a 10 mm by 10 mm piece of wood almost impossible however dril that 8 mm hole into a 300mm *300mm piece then cut it down Heronguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share #45 Posted February 2, 2017 :piratebo5:hello all just a quick update this week I have scratch built the required handrails and started to plank the inner bulwarks I have also added some more detail to the wheelhouse and built the engine room cover regarding the engine room cover I tried several times to make the small ring that slides over the exaust pipe with no success that I was happy with I decided to go with the plywood kit provided piece and paint it black I haven't decided to use it or not yet ,it isn't hiding anything so is not required however I think a bit of colour added here and there adds a bit of flavour to the unpainted version and finely tried my hand at a bit of fine detail painting with the winch ,at the minute its a john deer winch but may change to a ford Captain Poison and hof00 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted February 2, 2017 Share #46 Posted February 2, 2017 Nice!! Are you going with a "Working" Companion Way Door or not possible with this Kit version? Cheers....HOF. Steve 12345 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share #47 Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) think im gonna keep the campanion doors shut harry as this kit didn't provide the bunks ,im also not decided on the pale wood top of the companion entrance might plank it with the mahog whats your thoughts on that ? bearing in mind the doors and slide rails will be mahog thanks steve Edited February 2, 2017 by Steve 12345 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted February 2, 2017 Share #48 Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Well Chap, If you planked the top of the Companionway, it would be consistent with the other Deck structures. Your call!! (You could "Dry Fit" the Mahogany to see how it looks first?) Like the Jon Derre effect!! (Individuality,) Your piece of Marine Art, no one else's. Cheers....HOF. Edited February 2, 2017 by hof00 Steve 12345 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share #49 Posted February 2, 2017 Hi Brian thanks for the input think I will leave the doors closed or perhaps just a tiny bit ajar to show they are functional Just a reflection in the brass Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share #50 Posted February 2, 2017 companionway cover I have gone with the softwood on the top and hardwood for door and runners I think this gives a bit more contrasting wood effect and lets the viewer see how the door operates hof00, Captain Poison and Heronguy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted February 3, 2017 Share #51 Posted February 3, 2017 Hi Chap, Looking good. (Nice Miniature" Joinery skills.) Cheers....HOF. Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share #52 Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Thanks Harry that's why these things take so long you might as well be building the real thing Edit I also need to add a lot of what I've been able to do is down to the little proxon saw once again I highly recommend one of these Edited February 3, 2017 by Steve 12345 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worldway Posted February 3, 2017 Share #53 Posted February 3, 2017 So if I buy a Proxon saw my models will look as good as yours? Steve 12345 1 Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share #54 Posted February 3, 2017 Guaranteed or your money back hope proxon are watching this he he Worldway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted February 3, 2017 Share #55 Posted February 3, 2017 Yup, Got two Proxxon Saws, one tiny one, like yourself and the larger table Saw. Have not used this yet but looks promising when I have the need. (It's hard to get Proxxon anything here, have to talk to a supplier in Australia.) Cheers....HOF. Steve 12345 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share #56 Posted February 3, 2017 Be nice if you could raise and lower the blade on mine that way you could make ladder stringers I assume the bigger saw has the ability to raise and lower but is the blade still nice and thin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted February 3, 2017 Share #57 Posted February 3, 2017 Hi Chap, The Blade does retract into the Table and also tilts. The Blades have about a 1.5mm Kerf but there is the option of the "Super Fine" 0.5 mm Kerf. (Not used in Anger yet. ) Cheers....HOF. Steve 12345 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 12345 Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share #58 Posted February 4, 2017 For the hatches in front of the wheel house the kit instructions where to glue up a rectangle from planks then scribe lines out to form the three different lids the following is how I decided to approach this instead. I made two one with all hardwood and one with contrasting woods keeping with my theme I think I like the mixed one better Heronguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronguy Posted February 4, 2017 Share #59 Posted February 4, 2017 I agree with you Steve. The contrasting frame looks very sharp. Steve 12345 1 Quote Doug Current Builds: Bluenose II - AL / Krabbenkutter / Prince de Neufchatel / Essex Cross-section / Syren / Barque Stefano / Winchelsea / Half Hull / Maria HF31 - Dusek / Bandirma - Turkmodel On the Shelf: Santisima Trinidad and Cross Section / HMS Cutter Alert / Tender AVOS / Confederacy Suspended Build: Bluenose II - Billing Boats Nr 600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted February 4, 2017 Share #60 Posted February 4, 2017 Ditto Doug, Mixed version looks really "Sharp" Esp. after the finish!! Awesome job and kit Upgrade/Upgrade!! How are you getting on with the "Fish Box thingies?" I stacked mine after building the Wood Lattice that they rest on and Pinned with Brass Wire through to the Deck, no glue, so the "Stack" looked more or less like wot was on the Box. Cheers....HOF. Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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