Sovereign of the Seas by Tallshiptragic - Sergal - 1/78

[*Hans*]

On 6/2/2017 at 7:15 PM, Tallshiptragic said:

Haha thanks Hans. Well the globe was purchased from the Sacré-Cœur in Paris about... 15 years ago my friend. It is however a French miniature globe from 1740 if that helps  

Try to find it myself as well last few days. But the only globe I found was this one:

 

Isn't quite the same on the mantelpiece...

[Tallshiptragic]

20 hours ago, md1400cs said:

Anton,

 

Been following - need to say that your gilded detail work is very creative - and works very well visually on your build - Nice work indeed.

 

Cheers,

Thank you very much  

 

4 hours ago, *Hans* said:

Try to find it myself as well last few days. But the only globe I found was this one:

 

Isn't quite the same on the mantelpiece...

Haha no not quite the same!

[Tallshiptragic]

Been a little quite on updates this week though haven't been too idle. My kit doesn't come with any ships boats and there aren't any plans etc of what she had onboard. I'll assume she would have had at least a large long boat, and possibly a cutter and a yawl. The English pinnace not to be confused with the Dutch pinnace of the 17th century (more like a small frigate) had yet to come into being. 

 

So ive been left to my own devices with these. I decided to start with the smallest first. Two reasons mainly, if I could build the smaller one easily enough the two larger boats shouldn't prove to be an issue and, my miniature van de Velde needs a place. So I thought a prefect boat for Van de Velde to be sitting in sketching the sovereign. 

 

First of all a keel is put together with a stem and transom piece. This is then placed over frame formers - these are frames to guide the planks of the hull though arent actually fixed to the keel. Slots are in place in the keel to take thin strips of wood which will replicate the frames and on which the planks are actually glued too. The gunwale strake is a single piece also with slots on the inside where the frame strips will run through to continue the shape of the hull. The frame strips at this point are only placed where the formers are. The remainder will be placed once the hull is planked. The gunwale is slotted into the stem and against the transom with help of slots on the hull former but again only glued to the keel and not the hull formers. Working from just below the gunwale, the hull is planked towards the keel. As these are very thin and small planks, I use CA glue to fix the planks. With the former still in place the hull can be sanded. Being so small this is a very delicate model on its own and if you were to sand later, there could be disastrous effects.

[EJ_L]

Wow! That is incredibly small yet very well done!

[Tallshiptragic]

The hull can now be turned over and the hull former gently pulled out. Being careful with the placement of the CA glue this came out without any hitch. The strips are now cut down to the height of the upper strake and the final strips added for the remainding frames. Still more to go, but this is how it looks so far.

[md1400cs]

Anton,

 

Now that is, as some of us still say across the pond (from your ancestral roots) "ridiculous", my son would say, "that is sick". Well done indeed !!

 

PS: BTW - I hope that your ancestors were not criminals sent to Australia by the English - ha ha ah - lol

 

PS 2 brilliant work!

 

Cheers,

 

[Tallshiptragic]

Thanks guys, an enjoyable side project of their own  

 

Added in seat slats, interior gunwale and floor boards and gratings. Still a bit to go but started to paint it also now. The only painting which shows the sovereign with any boats is a modern painting of a model built in the 30's with a large longboat that has a black hull and golden filigree work. The filigree on the boats upper strake is scribed into the plank itself. I've taken my colour pallet from the early 18th century with reds and blues leaving the hull wood and White below the waterline as I think the black hull would be too much.  I've again used my oak wash over the hull planks which give it the darker wood colour of typical ships boats of the 17th century while still having decorations being from a royal warship. The final pic shows Van de Velde sitting comfortably forward making his sketch of the Sovereign:)

[Tallshiptragic]

Oh and no not convict stock myself. This is actually a proud ancestry in Australia if you come from the original convicts that were sent here. 

 

I'm Dutch Indonesian, my Dutch father coming from the Dutch East Indies before returning to the Netherlands in 1949 and my mother, Indonesian from Bandung in Java. 

[EJ_L]

Very cool! A great addition to your S.o.t.S.

[leginseel]

Beautiful work!!  Just discovered your log and will be following from now on.  The delicate work on the small boat is amazing.  I need to scratch build a launch for my Bounty and it's given me some good ideas.  Cheers and keep up the good work

Nigel

[Tallshiptragic]

Thanks guys. It's reasonably simple to do Nigel just need to plan every step ahead. You can also carve out a solid hull for the former which I've done in the past. This took a bit more time as you have to carve the shape perfectly to get the correct hull shape before planking. 

[leginseel]

Hi Anton, the kit I'm doing has one small boat in it which is solid hull but the kit only provides one and there were 2 on the Bounty.  I've been scratching my head how to make one and you've given me the inspiration to do something different and challenging. 

Cheers

Nigel

[md1400cs]

On 6/8/2017 at 1:35 AM, Tallshiptragic said:

Oh and no not convict stock myself. This is actually a proud ancestry in Australia if you come from the original convicts that were sent here. 

 

I'm Dutch Indonesian, my Dutch father coming from the Dutch East Indies before returning to the Netherlands in 1949 and my mother, Indonesian from Bandung in Java. 

Anton -Interesting regarding how the Aussies  have put a proud label on some of their ancestries. Your background is also very eclectic - Nice

 

Again your long boat is so so excellent - especially in that scale - your attention to the smallest of details is superlative indeed.

 

 

[Tallshiptragic]

Thanks guys haha yeah us aussies!

 

Back to the model, been working on the next ships boat. You've already seen the smaller 21 ft (7.2m) launch/yawl now I've made up the 28 ft launch (9m). I'll be building a third boat and much larger than the rest more of the style of a shallop or very large pinnace as from paintings of the time there always appears to be quite a large boat sometimes only the one larger boat which would be closer to 14-16 m or 35-40 ft sloop rigged boat.

[S.Coleman]

Ships boats look awsome. Looks of nice clean even detail. Well done.

[Hennie]

Your boats look beautifull. I hope I have the skills to do same thing. At least you gave me any idea how to fix these things. Thx Anton

 

Hennie

[S.Coleman]

All is looking wonderfully done. She is a work of art. 

[MESSIS]

The top and the middle deck cannon rows seem to have a red cross at the inside of the cannon port doors, but not at the lower deck where the doors are.painted.full red. Whats the meaning of that Anton can you please tell me a few words about it?

[Tallshiptragic]

Hi everyone, thanks for all the likes. I haven't disappeared just busy with some big decisions hahaha 

 

Yes Messis the two upper gunport lids are painted with the St George cross (the flag of England) the lower port lids which are all red will have carved lion heads similar to that of the vasa once I get round to producing them. The st George cross on the upper lids are depicted in Van der Velde's and eppings sketches of her. The lion heads are a bit of artistic license however are shown on the painting presented to King Charles.

[MESSIS]

Thank you Anton. You are well educated over your project....great! 

 

Christos

[S.Coleman]

Hey Anton. Hopefully the decision making is going well. And the carved lions heads coming along great. Things have certainly slowed down on my Friesland. But still plodding along. 

[*Hans*]

Hi Anton,

 

Here you can have a view on your next model :-)

 

http://kolderstok.com/zevenprovincien.html

 

Unfortunately yet only in Dutch. The English site will follow within the next days.

[J T Lombard]

Anton:

I just bought an early version of Sergal's Sovereign of the Seas. I was going to use your build as A guide. I hope you are still planning to finish your build.

 

regards

 

J Lombard

 

any advise on the early version would be appreciated

Edited August 9, 2017 by J T Lombard