mtaylor Posted March 20, 2017 Share #1 Posted March 20, 2017 I'm sort of stuck here. I'm seeing two different styles of carriages for the French 8-pdr cannon. I'm also under the impression that this applied to the 4-pdr's also. See picture. The upper one has both axle trees connected by a beam and the side supports sit on the axletrees. Note the rounded cutout at the bottom of side support. The lower one has a large "plank", if you will, that side sit on and then this is affixed to the axletrees. Which would be right for for the 1760's-1770's? I have detailed plans for both and just need to find out which one to use. Canute and CaptainSteve 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Delacroix Posted March 20, 2017 Share #2 Posted March 20, 2017 Hello, You have to take a carriage used after 1758 ie the one on the drawing from above. The height of this carriage is surprising, it is necessary to verify its height so that the gun is in the middle of the port. The bottom drawing is taken from the monograph on the 64-gun ship Le Fleuron. This 1730 eight-pounder cannon has a pre-1758 carriage, which is here proportioned for a 24-pounder gun port. It is a special arrangement for the Fleuron. Its dimensions are not common. Gérard Delacroix Canute, John Garnish and dafi 3 Quote ___________________ Marine et modélisme d'arsenal Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 20, 2017 Share #3 Posted March 20, 2017 The one with the plank on the bottom is the older version as far as I know. I do not know when the switch models was done, neither how long the older one was still in use. Perhaps contact Mr Delacroix. XXXDAn Canute 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxis Posted March 20, 2017 Share #4 Posted March 20, 2017 At least Ancre`s drawing for cutter Le Cerf ( built 1779 - 1780) suggests the lower type. Funny thing is that I have just finished the 16 pcs 6 pounders, and still working with the 8 pounders for my model: dvm27 and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted March 20, 2017 Thanks Gérard and Daniel. The height surprised me also but I did a dummy cutout and that is what fits. Moxis, you have the right one which fits what Gérard said about it being the top one in my picture. Canute 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.